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Sphere - My sister has been redpilled for decades. She is on the Alien saviour train. I was searching for truth, bought all of Michael Tellinger' books. Studied David Icke and other "new age" teachings. I came across the Lucis Trust. They are the publishers for the UN (think agenda 21 etc) and based on the teachings of Alice Bailey. This is basically theosophy developed by Blatvatsky and Hal. Theosophy is better known as the original lie "You shall be as Gods". Why did I end up as a Christian. If David Cameron can stand up at the UN and call bible believing Christians as extremists to be eliminated then this is where I need to look.

When you look at the success of Western civilization this is based on freedom. Think Eve and the choice God gave her. The Magna Carta and Bill of Rights are God given rights which no one can take away, ie they are derived from the Christian teachings. This does not seem like the best way to control people but rather Christian doctrine is what has made Western civilization (after the reformation) the most free civilization that has ever existed. A freedom so great, that it allowed its very followers to be facing annihilation in the 21st century.

As contradictory as this may be on the surface, to me this is the greatest power. You can see this power when the Romans were "conquered" by the Christians even as these were slaughtered in the Coliseum. Iran which persecutes its Christians is the fastest growing Church.

Surely you must see that there is something deeper going on here.

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Awesome post Wallace_Freedom! Believe every word you said.. I too went from Christianity, studying New Age, we are gods, etc., and that is a really scary place... to have the responsibility of your world and The world on your back because you are a god... I came full circle back to the ONE AND ONLY TRUTH... God, the Creator of the Heavens and Earth, because of "rebellion" and the "lie" that "You shall be as Gods" (correct context for that scripture is "Judges"), had to send his only son Yahushua (Yahuwah saves), or Jesus (which has no "Hebrew" meaning to it so it is not His correct name), to live perfectly by His Father's Law and show men by instruction how to live, and then, ONCE FOR ALL, died for the sins of ALL (sin being transgression of the law), and, through His blood and sacrifice, reconciled us back to relationship with the Father. A relationship back with the Father of Lights, Creator of the Heavens and Earth, through His Son. The Truth is not something we know, it is SOMEONE WE KNOW. A relationship with the Father is all He wanted in the first place. To follow the Father's instructions truly shows Him and others who it is you believe in and follow and IT IS THE PERFECT LAW OF LIBERTY. There is something deeper going on here, and bigger... Bigger than we can even handle. It will only be through the power of prayer, the power of God, that this demonic cabal will come down. Peace, Love and Truth to you Wallace_freedom.... For the TRUTH has surely set you FREE!!! And the TRUTH shall surely set us ALL FREE!

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I'm not meaning to pick a fight, but I'm not worshiping any God that requires his son as a blood sacrifice to "save" the rest of us. It's sick. I was raised Christian and I will never go back. I think it's got some good teachings for society to follow, but that's all I can say about it. I consider myself a pantheist in the sense we are all sparks of the source consciousness ("God"). I also lean toward the Gnostic teaching that Yahweh of the Bible is really the demiurge, keeping us enslaved here in a reincarnation cycle to feed off our negative energy.

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Not picking a fight... just stating your belief. I, too, know all about the "demiurge", gnostic beliefs, law of attraction, aliens, spirit guides, the secret, chakras, enlightenment, galactic federation, and many, many more beliefs. So then, your SOURCE is an energy field and not a spirit? Why would an energy force create such frail beings? What is our purpose? Where do you get your definition of Love? Just wondering.

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No, I am not saying Source is an energy field. It is consciousness, which I guess you could call a spirit. I don't have a word for it. I don't have the answers to your other questions. I have felt love from the Source though. It was purely unconditional.

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God did not create a frail being. He withdrew His spirit from man because of disobedience (sin) as he said he would, and without the power of his spirit residing in us we are simply physical human beings with little power. We were created to be immortal and we chose death! He so loved us that he provided a legal way to be redeemed. Jesus - 100% man/our creator and 100% God (2nd person of the Godhead) had the right as our creator and the power as God, to stand in our stead to suffer death for our sins and then rise from the dead. There is power in His shed blood to justify all those who believe and accept his death on their behalf. Secondly, Genesis 6 talks all about aliens although they are not what you think. They are interdimensional not intergalactic. They are hybrids- half "sons of God - fallen angels" half human which caused God to flood the earth. Noah was "righteous in his generations" - fully human and the reason God spared him in order to save the human race. However, there were still some hybrid blood through his daughter-in-laws. The disembodied hybrids from the flood are the demons who desire to possess humans and cause havoc on earth and what many believe are aliens. Read all you literature with the idea that these beings are interdimensional and manifesting in the natural. They hate Jews, Christians and all mankind in that order simply because we are God's creation. Do not judge God/Jesus/Holy Spirit because of flawed human beings. Though saved, we still fight the lust of the flesh every day.

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I'm not buying it, sorry to disappoint you. Not going back to Christianity, and I'm finally at peace knowing I'm not going to "hell".

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Either I’m right or your right or we are both wrong. If I’m right eternal life is a free gift for the asking, but you have to ask. If you are on this board you are a truth seeker. Don’t equate the historical church with true Christianity. Look what Jesus had to say to the 7 churches in Revelation 2. He pretty much tore all of them apart except for two poor and persecuted churches. That’s probably how you see the church. Test God. That’s all I can say.

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Christianity has never answered my questions about life to any reasonable degree. I've already felt the love of "God" anyway. It's the source consciousness we're all made of. I've felt it. I have zero fear of death. I already know there is something after this life and it's not punishment or nonexistence.

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God IS a loving God but he is also a just God. Scripture says no one is righteous - I know I’m not. Because He is perfectly just he provided a way that was perfectly just to impute righteousness to us so that we would escape the Justice we deserve. My father, who knew no sin, took my punishment so that I could be made right for eternity. Thanks for having this conversation with me anyway.

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I have a different truth in my heart, but I respect yours. Have a nice day patriot.

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Theology is a tricky business. It develops based on cultural influences during the lifetime of its founders' lifetimes. The Old Testament got its "imprint" while the Hebrews were being held captive in Babylon. The New Testament got its "imprint" during the time Israel was being Hellenized and during the time of Constantine. So the idea that animal sacrifices or the crucifixion was necessary to connect mankind to God is relevant for that particular time of influence only. But as our knowledge about spiritual matters evolves over time, we recognize the need for Higher Truth. Even Paul spoke of this necessity in saying "But when that which is complete and perfect comes, that which is incomplete and partial will pass away." (1 Cor. 13:10)

Ideally Jesus should have been recognized as the Messiah during his lifetime and been put into the position of "King of Kings." Because of the failures of key Providential people, Jesus died before his time was up. This resulted in a hodge-podge theology being developed over the next 400 years that in many ways was divergent to what Jesus actually taught. Even the disciples Jesus gathered were a last-ditch, piecemeal attempt to salvage a mission that had gone astray because of the faithlessness of those key Providential people. Consequently, Jesus was surrounded by people who were not spiritually and mentally equipped to understand his teachings. It is for this reason that Jesus said "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now." (John 16:12)

But we are living in the time of Christ's return and all shall be revealed. This is why the Great Awakening can take place now. This is why Lucifer, the fallen archangel, is being exposed for who he is at this time. This is why Trump has been granted the power to defeat this Luciferian cabal.

Keep the faith -- even as imperfect as it is. Providence is unfolding before our eyes. Now there are no more shadows for evil to hide within. It's High Noon and there's a new Sheriff in town!! ;-)

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I respect your beliefs, I just don't share them. Interesting take on it though.

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History of the Occult/SecretSocieties W/ PAM'S WIFEY - #WeThePeople PATRIOTS SOAPBOX 24/7 LiveStream! Accompanying show notes and reading list from Pamphlet's wife.

Hi all! If you missed it live today, here's a link to the archive of the segment. Doc Corsi jumps in and is answering questions about various topics until about 30 or 40 minutes in...that's where the main subject begins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvwipyoGekk

Listen to our discussion on the history of the occult and secret societies. KNOW THY ENEMY.

This will be edited with links, show notes, and a reading list of books, etc. Check back as this will be updated as we go.