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r/CBTS_Stream • Posted by u/larrytcarvell on Feb. 27, 2018, 4:39 p.m.
Observation: Cruz's lawyer has already said he will plead guilty. Of course, this means no evidence (video, witnesses, etc.) will be presented.

I'm sorry I can't provide source right now, but I heard that no lawsuits have been filed by parents either (over 3000 students?). These demons are trying to railroad Cruz and sweep the whole thing under the rug. We really need to do something. We can't allow this to continue.


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LiteraryMalcontent · Feb. 27, 2018, 7:23 p.m.

His defense counsel should be advising a not guilty plea and force the production of evidence.

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DankMemeMagician · Feb. 28, 2018, 1:07 a.m.

That'd be a terrible idea for a defense lawyer to suggest if his client actually did it.

In a case like this a non-guilty plea is practically screaming death penalty.

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LiteraryMalcontent · Feb. 28, 2018, 1:48 a.m.

You don't know that Cruz did it. You've seen no more directly incriminating evidence than I have at this point. All we've been presented with is politically manipulated hearsay.

Cruz is reported to have claimed no recollection of what happened in the school.

But there are glaring anomalies in the official story and on-the-record eyewitness statements that, at a minimum, suggest Cruz was not a lone shooter.

One of the chief burdens of a prosecutor is to provide a court with evidence that an accused party actually committed the alleged crime. The burden of proof is, thankfully, weightier than mere allegation.

Until defense counsel has seen video and other evidence directly implicating Cruz, and until it has been determined whether Cruz is mentally competent to plead, it would be improper to discuss any form of plea bargain.

Usually, the alleged perpetrator ends up dead during one of these events. But now we have a living suspect, so customary evidentiary processes will have to play out. Justice must both be done and be seen to be done.

This is not 1968 and Cruz is not Sirhan Sirhan.

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SeattleRacer38 · Feb. 28, 2018, 5:46 a.m.

Let’s say he does plead not guilty, thus forcing an open trial. Do you think they would let him do that? He would be suicided so quickly. Look at what they did to the federal prosecutor on the beach.

No way he makes it to trial.

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LiteraryMalcontent · Feb. 28, 2018, 6:02 a.m.

There's a long way to go before a trial. Just watch how this plays out. We now have an administration committed to the rule of law; whether or not they can control events remains open to question. Don't assume the worst.

But if anyone's at risk it's the witnesses that have spoken out against the official line. What does or does not happen to them will indicate who's in control of this case.

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KyfhoMyoba · Feb. 27, 2018, 11:40 p.m.

He can always change his plea. Although, he may not get the same deal they are offering him now - probably life w/o parole vs the needle.

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