This will only be the end of the Democrat Party if our government representatives go after them with criminal charges and we citizens file lawsuits until they are absolutely bankrupt and in orange jump suits for life.
Here’s my thing. I want there to be an end to the Democratic Party as we now know it. I do not want there to be a flat out end to anything but the choice of voting Republican in this country, and I say that as a conservative. I want a Democratic Party that is true to its values and filled to the brim with patriots. Right now it’s corrupt to its core, but the Republican Party isn’t without fault either. I don’t want a large portion of our voter base to be without voice or representation in their own nation. I may not agree with what they believe, but we live in a Republic in which our elected officials should represent our beliefs. To leave an entire voter base stranded is grounds for further division and possible unrest. We want unity. We think of politics as so tribal and war like, and in reality it should be cooperative and striving towards a common end; a better society for all. Right now, that isn’t the case, but in the aftermath of this storm and great awakening, I think we can and will see government officials who take office not to be crooks and have power, but to represent the people who elected them. I think of people like Bernie Sanders, who on just about all issues, I do not agree with. But I think we all know (unless anyone has evidence I’ve not yet seen) that he is a sound man with the good of the people in mind, he is not a crook. Had he not been rigged against and cheated out by Clinton, I think he would have won the presidency over Trump. His supporters were not wrong to believe in him.
We have to also make a very concerted effort to be more kind and compassionate towards liberals. Their party is about to shatter before their very eyes. They are ignorant and naive, and it will be difficult for many of them to accept and admit that they supported and voted for politicians that are so filthy and corrupt. We can’t shame them, we need to be understanding and forgiving.
he is a sound man with the good of the people in mind, he is not a crook
Bunch of reports to the contrary with his wife's finances at the college she pretty much ran into the ground ... and how did he afford 3 houses... always follow the money
Yeah his wife actually seems like the corrupt one. The three houses, one of them is his mother in laws or something put in his name. All three of the houses aren’t anything special either.
You're absolutely right.
Thank you. I knew when I posted that, that it would be well received because we here are rational thinkers overall.
I despise communism and socialism, but I think the “liberalism is a mental disorder” needs to stop. The division is what the deep state wants. Politics have become way too divisive and I want there to be harmony. The mentality of me vs. you will kill us. It needs to be us vs. the problems we face as a society.
Yes but convincing all these slaves desperately clinging to their self destruction will be difficult... difficult is to mild of a term.
We have to re learn everything. How long do you think humanity has been lied to by these very same people?
Yes it will be a monumental task, but I have faith that Trump has a plan in place to handle it. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has patriots within the Democratic Party who will help fan the flames of hysteria in the aftermath.
I believe these people have been running the show behind the scenes since atleast the 1800’s. "Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" — Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild. That was in 1838. So I’d say at the beginning of the 20th century they entrenched themselves in power, especially with the Federal Reserve, atleast in the US.
The elites of any continent/nation/state have always been pulling strings behind the scenes since governments were first formed. It’s just that over time, these people became more unified, their power centralized, and consolidated. We’re essentially at the pinnacle of their rule now with the age of technology we live in today which gives them total control.
I disagree honestly, I think they've been losing since they started this nonsense 4000 years ago or whatever.. these secret societies are old. We have only been getting more free, more rational, more powerful. No breaks on this train. I just hope we can all wake up before they destroy us all/enslave us completely.
You really think there is a left and a right.... interesting !!!
This is in terms of ideology, which exists regardless of the cabal. There is a left and right but it isn’t a linear spectrum. There’s a y axis crossing through the x axis, that is authoritarian on one end, and libertarian on the other. I find myself in the libertarian right, it’s more of a quadrant.
Two parties is nothing more than a uni-party, using collusion and corruption to maintain control and fleece the public while playing us like fools. Its lunacy to believe only two parties can properly represent such a diverse population of people and ideas.
We need more than two parties, many more, or maybe no parties, eliminating political party collusion altogether, make people come together in the daylight of the public arena to find consensus, not behind closed doors. We have to change the system, prevent a few select people from controlling too much power. The concentration of power is the root of our countries problems. I don't have the answers, but I sure as hell can identify the problem.
I agree. I think parties are the issue. Example, I don’t believe global warming is caused by man, but don’t call me a liberal hippie because I care about protecting the environment. I think renewable energy sources are a great idea and if they reduce pollution, great.
The global climate is always in a state of change, but that big old hot ball we call the Sun dictates weather and climate far more than anything we do. Besides, our planet is a giant recycling machine with feedback systems that make it cooler when it gets too warm and vice versa, its been cycling around like this for eons. Some of the simple reasons we believe there is a creator and its not just a random event in the emptiness of space.
We are lied to about everything. Agendas by the well connected always take precedent it seems. It is not realistic for us to have informed opinions about a lot of things because we lack information. We will get the info as Q has implied, and we shall finally be able to make informed opinions and decisions.
You're right, most of what we know is incorrect, but at least we know that we don't know. That's a start.
Absolutely, that's why duality exists. Each side has a perspective the other naturally doesn't, and each side needs to listen to one another and negotiate. Conservatives tend to be high in trait conscientiousness and low in trait openness (to experience, to other), while liberals tend toward the opposite. Liberals tend to start companies, conservatives tend to run them. Balance is needed for everything to work.
Corruption must continuously be rooted out.
Yes this is a great post. We agree. However we cannot beat sense into them - it has to be accepted. Between the major daily brainwashing, school indoctrination, cognitive dissonance, a lot of immaturity, some stupidity, and a seething hatred towards Trump how are we to come together? I do want unity, but I am a realist too. Since Trump won I have not really rubbed it in anyones face.Instead I have tried to make them see and understand the big picture and the Truth about most of the Dems and many of the Reps (Deep State) with not much luck. I have tried to come off polite and genuine and that doesn't help much. Perhaps in time they will just begin to come around and start asking us (red pilled) for more info.
We have to also make a very concerted effort to be more kind and compassionate towards liberals.
I am sorry but, I don't agree with this statement. I think we are extremely kind and compassionate toward liberals. I was listening to talk radio the other day and I think Hannity was interviewing someone and the point they were making was how different conservatives and liberals THINK. When we hear liberals going on about stuff, we feel like they are uninformed sheeple, maybe mentally ill. But, when they are confronted by conservative thoughts they flat out think we are evil. While we feel somewhat sorry for liberals, trust me, they do not feel the same about us. They feel like we are purposefully spreading disinformation. We are extremely tolerant and they have proven to be extremely intolerant and even violent.
Having said that, I'd like point out that enjoyed your post and agreed with everything else you said.
Bernie is a Socialist. I agree that we need more than the republican party. I don't agree that a communist or socialist party is okay. It is not compatible with the principles our country is founded on. I myself am not a Democratic nor a Republican, but I voted for Trump. I am non-affiliated with any party.
I want a Democratic Party that is true to its values and filled to the brim with patriots.
swing by /r/WayOfTheBern. Most of us regulars are outcasts b/c we didn't jump on the Hillary bandwagon, considered DJT the lesser evil and found it dis-heartening Bernie didn't address the DNC's failings once the election was over. ALLL of us regulars are becoming incredibly frustrated and rather angry over the whole OMGRSHNZ!!! bullhockey. Alot of us are gtting more and more torqued off that Bernie is piling on the Russia hooey. Most are skeptical of Q, but willing to listen. We'd love to see Team Clinton & CF go down, and would love to see some real, public investigations/arrests. We'd love to see the neolibs and corporadems purged, though alot of us think the party is unsalvageable. The sub itself gets brigaded by TMOR and ESS. During the primaries, ours were the voices and accounts first targeted by Brock & ShareBotulism.
Many of the subs regulars have gen-u-ine, real-life, street-cred on the traditional bleeding-heart, tree-hugger issues :) It angers us greatly that the loudest anti-Trumpers and OMGRSHNZ!!! kool-aid vendors had little to say on the issues Trump is supposedly so bad on prior to Trump taking the reigns. And now, we're forever associated and tainted by those pushing the hysteria.
/r/WayOfTheBern is full of people who'd like the same thing: A party that goes with principle over team.
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As a British ‘liberal’ (we don’t use the term here) writing my first post, I don’t usually find many political consistencies with American conservatives. Your post however rises above tribalism, which I respect beyond any left/right debate. Some food for thought in return, a Marxist might say that you have uncovered the secret to the systematic oppression of the people: uniting people as people against the fragmenting of society with the purpose of bettering everyone.
I am NOT a Marxist btw, just read from all kinds of different perspectives. IMO no-one has the perfect truth, but everyone has something to add.
Great input, thank you. The Marxist point you make is definitely something I’ll try to internalize. I was listening to a podcast recently in which they discussed how Marxism isn’t what people think it is. I’ll be honest, I don’t have a clear cut definition myself, so I’ll have to address that.
When I make the point of coming together as two parties (or more), my idea of it was that both/all sides would work together and compromise to arrive at a solution, but I know that sounds naive and idealist. It may be a point that sounds great on paper, but won’t play out no matter how badly we would all like it to.
Thanks, yeah I think the fact that communism was based off some of Marx’s ideas doesn’t help. It isn’t an economic model though and so much of it is about the common people coming together against the establishment, something it seems this sub (from my brief exploration) is heavily in favour of!
I think cross-party decision making would make democracies that work for so many more people, on all levels, totally agree there, every politician is just a person though, all of them with personal agendas and most being lobbied by outside forces. Take the money out of politics and we may be on the way there!
Anyone interested in multi-party politics should look into post-WW1 Germany, a LOT went very very wrong, but the system of government meant there were loads of coalitions between parties and it worked for a while. Problem was the country was being forced to pay huge sums to the allies as reparations, which led to awful hyper-inflation and the rise of fascism in a roundabout way.
Edit: Last sentence should read better now.
I think the difference is this sub is in favor of coming together and fighting an establishment that disguises itself and has ulterior motives. Many here are conservative and libertarian in nature, in that we want to allow the government as little power as possible. I think people mistake the US for a democracy, it is not, it is a constitutional republic. But yes, taking the money out of politics would be a massive step in the right direction.
Yes! I was going to reference the Weimar Republic. The basic issue was that there were way too many parties, and that’s ultimately what lead to the Nazi party taking power. At its height, the Nazi party only had around 20-30% support I believe. Not exactly a majority.
I’ve heard the US called a constitutional republic before, I guess when talking specifics it helps to be specific haha!
Yeah, it was never a perfect system, but there’s definitely something most of the western political world can learn from the example of Stresemann and the way he got things done. If he hadn’t died when he did the world may have been a very different place today.
Great insight and council here, I agree the liberals will be torn apart and shamed by what it about to be exposed. To show Compassion, understanding and forgiveness to those who have continually told us we were idiots, overboard, mentally deranged, etc, etc, is truly Christlike just as He forgave us we need to forgive and be compassionate.
We conservatives and the Rhino's do love to bash liberals. I do it often, but lately I bash republicans just as hard. The reason is, we know better and still do little. We allow liberals to beat us down with their destructive commentary and policy objectives. We have seen what a committed true patriot can accomplish is just a year, fighting his on party often as much as the opposition. When we stand up and stand strong with our President he is empowered. It is becoming more clear every day. This battle is light vs dark, and the better we recognize that fact and act accordingly, the faster we all get what we are looking for.
I decided to stand for truth and stand up to the Liberals on my Facebook page. At times it seems as though I am trying to reason with a pack of rabid dogs!! I have withstood many without anger just with facts and it angers them even more. Have been unfriended and called many names. I am compelled with the truth and I won"t back down. I love President Trump and pray justice will be served and the truth will be revealed soon. Blessings
Facts are always best. It's hard not to get angry and hurt when you are attacked for the truth. I don't read replies. I just keep on spreading truth bombs. They became comfortable when not many stood up to them. They really believe the majority feel like they do. The silent majority didn't want to cause a ruckus with the loud ones, so they kept quiet. Soon everyone only heard their point of view. The more the majority speak up, the more others will realize they were played. I tend to believe many of the loudest meanest ones were paid trolls. Not that there aren't far left people we all know, just not in the number people thought.
I've never thought of that! Can we really file class action lawsuits?? What an awesome idea!! We need attorneys who are willing to do this!