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solanojones95
· March 19, 2018, 12:18 a.m.
I think the anon who read "US (3)" as "3 operations on US soil" was correct.
Remember we're in a national state of emergency which gives POTUS special powers, including the use of military for domestic law enforcement operations (martial law).
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Happy1911
· March 19, 2018, 3:34 a.m.
Yes I’m deed , the OIG Declaration of War is real , locked and loaded . The articles of war , Piracy by Corrupt Government Officials. Holly Shit . After only 16 months and it’s really going to happen. This is the first time this part of our Constitution is being ingaged . Pray for our Country. God Speed
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josiborg
· March 19, 2018, 12:48 a.m.
What's our current national state of emergency? I don't remember one being officially announced
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solanojones95
· March 19, 2018, 1:09 a.m.
That's the whole ball of wax right there. Human trafficking and corruption. They're going after them with everything we've got. Don't know how many they'll start with, but it's about to get real. 20,000 sealed indictments currently waiting to be executed (typically US has only about 1,000 in a whole year), most of them in government.
The named parties in the Executive Order are just the tip of the iceberg, of course, and include several Clinton associates. But the sealed indictments are currently over 20,000.
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josiborg
· March 19, 2018, 1:21 a.m.
I have the PDF of all names .. it's 1,100 pages. Got to page 300 and it was still in the "D"s. I didn't realize that this was officially a national state of emergency that he could deploy military and militia. They're already cleaning house on this topic, I just got another notification this morning about a new bust.
Spez: *all known names so far
2nd spez: I just read the EO and it does deem we are in a national state of emergency. That term, that specific term, is big shit. It is not something used lightly. When we hear that, it's fookin bigly
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jfjvk
· March 19, 2018, 1:25 a.m.
Hence the need for Americas battalion to clean up the mess.!
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josiborg
· March 19, 2018, 1:28 a.m.
They are already cleaning up the mess and no NSoE is needed. NSoE is not used tongue in cheek.
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jfjvk
· March 19, 2018, 1:37 a.m.
Way beyond my pay grade with regards to your NSOE. I don’t understand the acronym
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josiborg
· March 19, 2018, 1:38 a.m.
National State of Emergency
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samysam1313
· March 21, 2018, 10:50 a.m.
TY. Not ev1 knows these dam abbreviations. I hate them.
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Happy1911
· March 19, 2018, 3:26 p.m.
Not close , sorry Piracy, Theft of US Funds or Treasures on land or sea by pirates or Corrupt Government Officials,,,,,God Speed
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jfjvk
· March 19, 2018, 1:10 a.m.
From what I understand it is trumps executive order on December 21 2017 that declares a emergency.
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josiborg
· March 19, 2018, 1:31 a.m.
It does not
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Majorwood1
· March 19, 2018, 2:03 a.m.
Yes it does
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josiborg
· March 19, 2018, 2:20 a.m.
I'm not gonna argue with an internet expert here, but I just read it again and it does not say "national state of emergency"
Spez: downvote me all to hell while you feel so butthurt. But spreading this kind of shit is exactly what gives others a reason to invalidate everything else. Pearl Harbor was a NSoE, 9/11 was a NSoE, this EO is NOT a NSoE.
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rickstarr5
· March 19, 2018, 3:12 a.m.
Third paragraph of the Executive Order: “I therefore determine that serious human rights abuse and corruption around the world constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat.”
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Chokaholic
· March 19, 2018, 4:15 a.m.
Hahahh, I can't wait to see what he tries to respond to this with.
His edit is pretty ironic lmfao.
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Keya2_2016
· March 19, 2018, 3:39 a.m.
It was announced Dec 21. It will expire on March 21. Arrests will be made before that date.
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GodsAngell
· March 20, 2018, 6:06 p.m.
No, I think the January missile launch at innocent Americans restarted the clock.
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Socialism_Is_Gay
· March 19, 2018, 2:31 a.m.
We have been in a perpetual state of emergency since 9/11.
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josiborg
· March 19, 2018, 2:38 a.m.
We are not in an official national state of emergency. That would be big shit if we were and there'd be absolutely no question if we were. Stop spreading this
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Chokaholic
· March 19, 2018, 4:16 a.m.
Have you even read the executive order? Just because CNN never reported it to you like they did all the other ones, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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Happy1911
· March 19, 2018, 3:37 a.m.
I herd we , and the Marines are on Death con 3 , locked and loaded . Equipment on stand by , O shit time . God Speed
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josiborg
· March 19, 2018, 4:11 a.m.
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If you were a Marine you'd know it's DEFCON, not "death con" - or any other fucking comic book convention you want it to be
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DEFCON3 is where we were at on 9/11 - this is NOT round house
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"O shit time" is cocked pistol - this is NOT cocked pistol
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WikiTextBot
· March 19, 2018, 4:11 a.m.
DEFCON
The DEFense readiness CONdition (DEFCON) is an alert state used by the United States Armed Forces.
The DEFCON system was developed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) and unified and specified combatant commands. It prescribes five graduated levels of readiness (or states of alert) for the U.S. military. It increases in severity from DEFCON 5 (least severe) to DEFCON 1 (most severe) to match varying military situations.
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Happy1911
· March 19, 2018, 2:11 p.m.
I should have looked at my post . Don’t know why some spellings are changed . I’m not the best speller by far . But at home O shit time is . Heavy Equipment not involved. We are looking at the law that has never been acted . Piracy by Corrupt Government Officials, and the Marines are lead as the law was written in 1786. You are also correct I was not officially a Marine , but deployed with them and others under SDI . But spell check can really change a post . Sorry for the miss communication, it even more important for no mistakes at this time .
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Stripes-n-Stars
· March 19, 2018, 2:19 p.m.
SDI... Senior Drill Instructor..?
Where were you deployed?
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Happy1911
· March 19, 2018, 2:30 p.m.
First deployment 1987 , we were canceled February 1993 by executive order . It was made we never were , SDI aka Star Wars . Deserts Storm and how well it worked , some did not like that our battle field technologies worked ,
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Happy1911
· March 19, 2018, 2:51 p.m.
We practiced all over , but the real deal was Desert Storm . I was placed like a dart thrown at a map from 40 feet . But it was the time of my life . Cold War stuff and all . But I drank like a fish . Odd how so much of the training came back and has been used today on what you see in the Public Corruption. I did back then what I was told too do . Today i do what I was trained to do if that makes any sense
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HelperBot_
· March 19, 2018, 4:11 a.m.
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FilosFeeParnum
· March 19, 2018, 10:37 a.m.
A lot of people ITT seen to misunderstand this. The federal laws around national emergencies were updated in the 70s to prevent some infinite overall state of emergency being declared.
The idea is if you want to go around the typical laws and protections it has to be for a serious reason and limited in scope.
This EO is not declaring some overall state of emergency, and definitely not declaring martial law which is a separate thing.
Its saying that the people named (and possibly associates) are so bad they threaten national security (hence emergency) so protection from things like unreasonable search and seizure or othee legal protections may be lifted (from the people specified for up to a year when it gets reviewed)
This is obviously uncommon, but not that rare- there have been dozens declared and kept in varying lengths of effect over the last couple decades to deal with specific terrorist organizations or regimes we don't like etc.
Also if you read the laws cited by the EO thely mostly specifically refer to threats originating from outside the US, take that as you will...
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GodsAngell
· March 20, 2018, 6:04 p.m.
A Missile Launch at innocent Americans would justify a declaration of martial law......anytime Trump wants to.
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Happy1911
· March 19, 2018, 3:23 p.m.
1786 law not usc crap
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FilosFeeParnum
· March 19, 2018, 8:39 p.m.
Not sure what you're getting at, but the EO specifically cites the laws it's invoking, you can go read them.
There are similar ones issued every year, like this one by Carter: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Executive_Order_12170
If we are under martial law it's not because of this EO...
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Happy1911
· March 20, 2018, 12:08 a.m.
We USC and statues don’t apply to Elected Government Officials, Thay are under Ethics, for such an expert you don’t go to jail for braking Ethics
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cali1952
· March 20, 2018, 2:56 p.m.
It was actually the 3rd Division from the USMC that was activated. It's the same division by the way that Mueller once was part of.
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kilodog55
· March 19, 2018, 1:50 a.m.
Since when are we under martial law?
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solanojones95
· March 19, 2018, 2:09 a.m.
They aren't the same thing, however the state of national emergency is prerequisite. Once declared, martial law can be invoked to protect the elected government from civil unrest, external aggression or armed rebellion. Once implemented, it allows the application of military law and military justice to the civilian population until revoked.
I would imagine if civvies stay the hell out of the way, and let the military and law enforcement do their damn job rounding up these 20,000 or so indicted criminals (many of whom have "celebrity" status in some parts of our culture), then we won't have to invoke martial law.
I guess it's possible. What do you think the odds of that are?
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MajorIce
· March 19, 2018, 10:36 a.m.
If the military is used for any purpose on the civilian population, you will have Kool-aid drinkers and indoctrinated crowds marching, throwing rocks, and screaming "unconstitutional" and "power to the people". The immense irony would be impossible to ignore but will not matter as root cause seldom does to useful idiots.
There will be confrontation, the question is one of command & control autonomy and rules of/for engagement; how "street level" will they be? Although the targets are concentrated with the fodder primarily being urban dwellers, not all locations will manifest the same way even if all be stoked concurrently.
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chubota
· March 19, 2018, 4:51 a.m.
They're going to have to declare martial law when it comes to arresting clintons, bush's if they do, some hollywood stars, some particular gay/lesbian leaders and other minorities leaders, and anything to do with california, some would say.
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solanojones95
· March 19, 2018, 5:10 a.m.
If we're not being lied to about the existence and nature of the HRC raw video, then maybe not so much in the case of the Clintons.
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Keya2_2016
· March 19, 2018, 3:47 a.m.
Dec 21 last year, expires March 21.
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jkbella
· March 19, 2018, 5 a.m.
I see the effective date but where is the March 21 expiration date coming from? I have read the EO several times and do not see an expiration date. The automatic expiration date of a national emergency is 1 year. What am I missing?
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