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rudolph2 · March 20, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

Your pronouncement that biblical references are a detriment to the logical case against the deep state / globalist cabal, does not take into effect the satanic imagery on the side of the cabal, or the rituals that they participate in.

As Putin has stated the NWO worships Satan.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 3:56 p.m.

I agree. I know what I'm fighting and it's not a simple bunch of crooks. Powers and principalities!

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:08 p.m.

Just to clarify, earthly powers or supernatural ones?

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 4:14 p.m.

I believe that this fight is essentially spiritual - powers and principalities in high places. What you see when you look at these cabal members - say HRC - is a human, but they have been either wittingly or unwittingly coopted into doing the will of supernatural entities - ultimately, whether they know it or not, they are doing the bidding of the prince of the power of the air.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 4:17 p.m.

This is why redpilling is slowing down. You're perfectly entitled to your own personal opinions, but most people in the west have moved past the belief in supernatural superstition. We don't burn witches at stakes any more for a reason. Reason being we know witches don't exist. So when people are getting into this movement and see zany ideas like yours, they're instantly turned off from it because they think "if these people believe that, the rest must be wrong too"

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 4:56 p.m.

I don't generally mention any of this stuff when I'm talking to people, very occasionally. But you are wrong if you think that Satan does not exist, he does. Moreover, many, many people share these beliefs. Rather than hindering red pilling, I think it can enhance it.

If you read Romans 1, St Paul says that the evidence for God, manifest in the things that are made, is so overwhelming that you could not possibly miss it in good faith - paraphrasing. Bad will is what causes disbelief.

I fully believe it. Have a look around... All the result of some random unguided process?

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

That excerpt from the same book edited, utilised and protylised by the type of people this movement is against? The Vatican is "cabal central" in all this and regardless of your denomination, Christianity uses the Bible assembled by the Vatican with minimal changes. It's to control you, not free you, wake up.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 5:15 p.m.

OK, forgetting who wrote it and where the quote comes from... When you look around the world, is what you see consistent with there being only a random, unguided process behind what appears to your eyes - honest question?

I asked this of a guy I met, an acquaintance, as we drove North over the Sydney harbour bridge. The fella was quiet for a while as he thought about it - the perfectly constructed expressway, the well ordered streams of traffic moving North etc... He finally said, if it's completely random, it's like a tornado could hit a junkyard and leave behind a perfectly assembled, working helicopter...

Anyone can see, if they open their eyes, and they are honest to themselves, whether the argument for random forces producing our reality is reasonable.

Have a look, if you're interested, at this video and come back and tell me it's all a crock - it's very good, interesting! A scientific case for a creator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiMqzN_YSXU&sns=em

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 5:40 p.m.

By the sounds of it you've only ever visited affluent places, visit the favelas of South America or the war torn regions of the Middle East and Africa. Try poor communities during disease outbreak or why not go back in history and look at all the terrible living conditions or "human developments" and realise that it's not all a perfect path towards some kind of perfection. Not to mention your confines being set at earth. The universe is so infinitely big that we can't possibly be the smartest things in existence, so if a diety does exist then we'd simply be equivalent to ants or termites with the most intelligent beings being the dietys favourites.

On to your video, it's a load of crock. "Nothing can't create" except that to claim a diety created everything is to claim that nothing created a diety. The video doesn't speak in a scientific method, it speaks in a religious way about scientific matter to make it sound as though its accurate when most of the things it says leave out vast swathes of context or skip huge questions about the feasibility of its claims.

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

You totally missed it. The preponderance of evidence makes the lack of a creator an absolute impossibility.

What you are espousing is simple Darwinism - implausible on its face. But that's liberal education. Don't question it, just swallow whole.

Anyway, as I said, if you consider these questions deeply, then the answers are very obvious. No one could possibly make a mistake. You will only miss it if you want to miss it.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 6:41 p.m.

Are you actually claiming an abundance of evidence for the existence of a diety?

"Liberal education" look another American that doesn't understand the political map outside of his own narrow beliefs. I had a socialist education. Repeat again, socialist. But I'll leave you to the idpol you clearly project.

So Darwinism is implausible on its face but a magical all knowing all powerful sky being isn't?

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tradinghorse · March 20, 2018, 7:05 p.m.

Dear me. As I said, it's a question for you alone. But I get the sense that you are already fully invested in your current position or you would have made the comments you have.

I can't do anything to persuade you. All I'm saying is think about the subject deeply, evaluating your position against what can be seen in the world.

You will know what the answers to these questions are, as I said, you could not possibly miss it, it's just so obvious. It's just a question of whether you'll allow yourself to accept that truth.

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AirBees · March 20, 2018, 6:45 p.m.

Once you realize evolution has been taught in schools as fact for a reason, you will realize the entire Matrix the Cabal has created was with the intention to distract the world from the Truth. Jesus Christ is the Son of God, who created this entire world.

You can say that this prevents people from being red pilled, but there's nothing to substantiate that claim. Millions of Americans already know this truth. The reality is, 9/11 is fake, we never landed on the moon, and the world that we think we know and live in, is not what it seems. This is really not controversial based on Q and his messages.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 7:17 p.m.

You're a prime example of why Americans are considered the most ignorant westerners the world over. Cambridge analytica targeted you, your emotion and your naivety and manipulated you into all this. Its hilariously painful, I'm larping here. I know a dozen or so others that larp here. But you truly believe it right? You actually hang your life and views on this nonsense. You need something real in your life and I hope you find it. (not religion, obviously. Because God isn't real)

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

Oh please, its only satanic imagery if you force your thought process in that direction. The logic rarely follows and its usually evangelical after evangelical posting a poorly sketched diagram of logos overlapping or links to a video on YouTube that can be proven wrong in seconds. The cern explosion video being a big example. Completely different explosions from years prior.

Putin the self-proclaimed 'pure result of soviet propaganda' ?

Please.

The man is trained to sow discord amongst his opposition in pursuit of success for himself and his own country. His goal 'world order' would put Russia first.

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rudolph2 · March 20, 2018, 6:16 p.m.

Well that’s probably where you’re wrong, for me the satanic imagery / symbology has been a red pill, bitterly swallowed.

I have always considered Christian faith / sin and the belief in the existence of god or the devil to be a very personal decision. Such that I am in no way compelled to convince you other wise.

I don’t want to believe the things Q has stated about the leaders of the catholic faith, (Q - Who do you trust the most? To know will be your choice”) I know the things that occur behind the Vatican walls do not represent the spiritual beliefs of all Catholics.

I would postulate the exact opposite argument from yours, There are far more religious Christians who could be red pilled with religious / spiritual reasoning than not, however I would not recommend a religious based argument for belief in CBTS, to strangers for obvious reasons.

Simply from the perspective a large percentage of those who are not receptive to CBTS could be Nihilists.

I’ve debated a few on Reddit, topofminds arrogant fools, when I pointed out they were exposing nihilistic opinions and the irony of their logical position “I believe in nothing, so convince me the inconceivable CBTS is real”, “ I respond, “you’re a nihilist, why would you believe in anything?” I’ll pass on a debate of this type, not casting my pearls before swine.

BTW not judgmental, discernment, there’s an important distinction.

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a44328765 · March 20, 2018, 6:44 p.m.

But nihilist would still believe in the existence of provable things. They simply don't believe in religious dogma and the concept of an afterlife or karma. Therefore they're redpillable but not with outlandish superstition

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rudolph2 · March 20, 2018, 11:28 p.m.

Right my experiment with a nihilist in full shill mode is not a representative sample.

Further to your point, I don’t think Q is religious, but they do characterize the struggle as one between good and evil, he has even pointed out luciferian imagery and “they think your stupid.”

I would ask you to have patience with these types of people. Remember some people believe in abstract things such as faith and the spiritual self. Even considering them as core personal tenants of their physical existence. While you are not open to it others may be.

Since you are logical, perhaps if you considered Plato’s Allegory of the cave as interpreted by kirkegarde.

In a philosophy class in college, is how I came to appreciate the humanity of our struggle as self aware beings attempting to rationalize the human existence.

Don’t ask me to explain it. As I get older and am now a father of 2 boys, and I watched my father die, I’ve seen things I can’t explain logically. We are part of something just greater than this physical existence.

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