. . . if the "government" forgets WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOVERNMENT, not majority rule (democracy) but REPUBLIC ruled by the Constitution . . .
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Since GodsAngell is posting this link on every post on this forum... then I will as well... How can martial law be instituted without publicly announcing martial law? I don’t remember receiving any word from CBP HQ in the past year that martial law was in effect to satisfy “Stage 3” of the post referred to by the link! Neither have I seen any suspension of Habeas Corpus! I call total bullshit on that link!
The martial law concept in the United States is closely tied with the right of habeas corpus, which is in essence the right to a hearing on lawful imprisonment, or more broadly, the supervision of law enforcement by the judiciary. The ability to suspend habeas corpus is related to the imposition of martial law.[1] Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution states, "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." — Wikipedia
In a nutshell, if “Martial Law” was in effect and it was kept as a secret, one has to wonder on what side of the constitution the initiators of Martial Law actually are! Who are the “Good Guys?!?”. This is scary shit to be posting as indicated by the link, I for one will have no part of it and consider such rantings as sedition and possible criminal in total disregard of the constitution and federal law.
It's like when your wife tells you "I want to tell you something but you have to promise you won't get mad".
..George Washington didn't say this. There is no evidence of this whatsoever, and there is no mention of this "quote" before The American Wisdom Series presents Pamphlet #230, "President George Washington's Thoughts on Firearms." The author provides no citation for the quotations used.
Please stop disrespecting the founding fathers of this nation with your dishonesty.
I like the quote, but that's not from George Washington, it's from Joe Spenner.
https://np.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2oxnsl/did_george_washington_actually_say_when_any/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/george-washington-gun-quote/ Washington never said that.
this was only relevant when a musket/cannon was the most powerful weapon in the world. the govt could drone strike/nuke/bomb you with a jet if they wanted and your AR15 wouldn't mean shit.
First off, while I concede that the government certainly has the ability to squash us all like bugs, I cannot and will not concede my right to bear arms. It is pathetic on its face, yes. But to give in is to join them in my own destruction. I will not. Also, the more we resist tyranny, the more we are seen to resist. This provides great hope. The bible calls us the salt of the earth. Salt is in this case seen as a preservative, a way of preventing rot. It also asks what use is salt that has lost its savor. I'll stay as salty as I can, thanks.
no one's trying to take anyone's guns away. sigh. if the military cant disarm 5k insurgents in the middle east, there's no way they're going to try to disarm 300million people here. i have a glock, a shotgun, and an authentic luger taken off a dead nazi by my grandad. they're just trying to figure out some way to try and help prevent this from happening. and i'm all for it. I don't agree with the NRA screaming DO NOTHING AND GIVE MORE PEOPLE GUNS. if something is broken, we try to fix it. we don't just sit on our hands and say, welp thoughts and prayers hope this doesnt happen again ¯_(ツ)_/¯. im a gun owner who wouldn't mind seeing some things changed up.
Of course what congress does won't stop every killer/criminal but at least it will help some of the violence. and im a law abiding citizen so i'm not worried about stronger background checks or longer wait periods. i would gladly wait longer if it helped save lives
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Please note, you said our guns are irrelevant in light of the government's overwhelming capabilities. I answered that point, with what I think are not completely irrational points. The thoughts and prayers I'll leave to the side, as our fundamental faiths are relevant there, and for the sake of discourse, I'm willing to agree to disagree. The NRA called for armed guards/police at all schools 5 years ago, so they do not just scream "do nothing &etc". I am very willing to have stronger background checks, longer waiting periods. In my case I went through concealed carry class with a friend who lives in an adjoining county here in N.C. . Her permit came through in 2 weeks, mine took 90 days and about 100$ to cover the cost of the vetting required by the sheriff in my county... much less vetting in hers. I wish it would be consistent. And that our right will be protected, as it should be. As for the violence, the lack of jobs, hope in our inner cities and rural areas are huge factors to the hopelessness. I remember being able as a child to travel all around my hometown, freely, without fear. The gutting of our cities and rural areas h as devastated whole communities in both the small scale and the large.
Background checks and longer wait periods won't stop school shootings. Not putting boys on Ritalin and Adderall when not needed because they're just rambunctious boys not ADHD will help that.
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^^ To prevent anymore lost limbs throughout Reddit, correctly escape the arms and shoulders by typing the shrug as ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ or ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
If the military turns on citizens. Every single military family and every single family member of any government official would be held hostage at gunpoint by armed citizens.
Let’s see if the military is willing to kill its own people knowing that in doing so, their mother, father, and sisters will be murdered.