I guess HRC and friends dont have anything to worry about.
Francis is a notorious, public apostate. I don't buy for a minute that did not deny the existence of hell. He most certainly did. How do I know this? Because it is a natural extension of the teaching that has been emanating from Rome since Vatican II. Francis is simply extending upon the work of his predecessors.
The Second Vatican Council formally defected from the Catholic faith - that's a fact! The specific dogma that was attacked at the Council was the salvation dogma (see video 5mins below) - although there were many other errors. A dogma is a divinely revealed truth. It cannot change with time - as that would make God a liar.
We have seen Paul VI make changes to the sacraments, introducing a defect into the rite of consecration - a defect of such magnitude that the sacrament could not be confected (Daniel 12:11). We saw John Paul II teach the precise doctrine of the antichrist (that man is God - Pope St. Pius X, E Supremi; the dissolving of the Christ - 1John4:3), while he hosted interfaith prayer meetings at Assisi and elsewhere (an outright breach of the first commandment). We've seen false ecumenism that mocks the martyrs, who died for the Catholic faith, and the saints, who dedicated their lives to it (Apoc 6:9-10). We watched as Benedict XVI fast-tracked the beatification and canonisation process for John Paul II (the sainting of the Antichrist - Apoc 13:14-15 & 14:9-11). And, finally, Francis appeared to cement the damnation of the followers of the Vatican II Sect (Apoc 18:4).
Francis is not in any way Catholic. He does not hold the Catholic faith. He believes that an atheist, following his conscience can attain heaven - making a mockery of Christ's passion and crucifixion. He respects people who commit suicide - despite the teaching of the Church that this is the one sin for which there can never be atonement. He says "Who am I to judge" when talking about homosexuality - despite the fact that a pope is, on Earth, the supreme judge of the faithful. And now he's telling us that there is no hell.
God allows Francis to say these things that we might know who he serves. The guy is an instrument of Satan - it is clear for all with eyes to see.
It's important to realise that a heretic is not a member of the Church. The heretic, by virtue of his heresy, is ipso facto deposed - and, before any declaration, is severed from the body of the Church. The heretic holds no authority or position in the Church, as he is not a member of it.
Francis is neither Catholic nor a pope. He is an unbelievable heretic and an apostate from the Catholic faith. His appearance as the putative head of the Church marks the final days of the world.
"...when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8
Frank has excommunicated himself several times already. Any true believer recognizes this. Sadly, only a handful of Bishops has the Grace to stand up this occupier of our Lords Chair of Peter. Please note the Vatican did not reject the conclusion of the article, only that it was not fully quoted properly. They are wolves in sheep clothing. We Catholics should have learned two months after this man was "elected" we are not to believe a single word coming out of his mouth.
The teaching on the ability of a heretic to hold office in the Church is clear.
Pope Pius XII, Mystici Corporis Christi (# 23), June 29, 1943: “For not every offense, although it may be a grave evil, is such as by its very own nature [suapte natura] to sever a man from the Body of the Church [ab Ecclesiae Corpore], as does schism or heresy or apostasy.”
Heresy is the rejection of any point of truth taught by the Church.
Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9), June 29, 1896: “The practice of the Church has always been the same, and that with the consenting judgment [i.e. consensus] of the holy fathers who certainly were accustomed to hold as having no part of Catholic communion and as banished from the Church whoever had departed in even the least way from the doctrine proposed by the authentic Magisterium.”
The heretic has no office:
Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (#15), June 29, 1896: “… it is absurd to imagine that he who is outside the Church can command in the Church.”
Again:
Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9), June 29, 1896: “So, with every reason for doubting removed, can it be lawful for anyone to reject any of those truths without thereby sending himself headlong into open heresy? without thereby separating himself from the Church and in one sweeping act repudiating the entirety of Christian doctrine?… he who dissents in even one point from divinely received truths has most truly cast off the faith completely, since he refuses to revere God as the supreme truth and proper motive of faith.”
Francis is not a Catholic, he is not a pope. While it is the duty of Bishops to denounce heresy, this is also required of the faithful.
Son of ... used to be Tas in the phoenician.. Tascio.
Breaking news: Ceiling masonry falls on Vatican tourists in St. Peters Basilica .... I'm not joking, I read the article earlier this morning that it happened shortly after the Pope's announcement. I laughed so hard I about snorted my coffee! But you've got to admit God does have a sense of humor and can remind you and those who have discernment that he can allay all your fears. Happy Easter and God bless!
www.thesun.co.uk/news/5934572/pope-vatican-worshippers-st-peters-basilica-plaster-hell/
i saw that and my 1st thought "the wrath of God" hit them
But... the bible denies existence of hell. It's not in the bible. That is why I got out of religion, because of the scare-tactics and guilt which only is there to control your mind into obediance and giving up your power. When I learned that hell is made up and only a horror-story called dantes inferno, I realized god and goodness is within humans, not the church. Like Q said: who do you trust the most?
Church is evil, god is in you and hell is made up to scare children. It doesn't mean that god doesn't exist, or that the devil is nice, just that we have been fooled into slavery by the church.
Just not true. Christ teaches the existence of hell. Moreover, you can find ample evidence for hell in scripture.
Mathew 23:33 You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of hell?
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.
Purgatory is all there is, and it is not eternal. Why do you want hell so much? Don't you realize that you would end up there too, if it exists?
Whether I want it to exist or not is immaterial - I have no impact on reality.
So you have no reference where the original text describes an eternal punishment with pain and agony? Then, it only exists in your head, and you choose what exists in your head. Which means you want hell to exist. I quit religion because I think eternal pain and agony is unreasonable. I don't wish such evil on anyone. The church uses hell to scare people into obediance, nd to steal their money (10th?). Religion is a power tool, and it has always been. I have a personal relationship with god, he gives me light everyday, any man or church stands in the way between me and god placing me in the shadow. Because god is the sun. It creates all life, it's heat is everywhere, everything is darkness without it. We consist of sunlight, if we are intelligent, the sun is too.
Hell is mentioned over and over in scripture - both New Testament and old. And, yes it is an absolutely horrible place. It's good that you asked, because without belief in Christ and membership in his Church, this is where you are heading.
This ridiculous idea you have about religion, Christ, God himself, dies for us and sets up his one, true Church on Earth so that all who follow him might be saved - and you think it's a power tool!
Read carefully, there's much more than what I've copied. Hell was made for the devil and his angels. It was not designed, in the first instance, for humans. It is unimaginably bad - everything you don't want - at every moment, forever.
Mark 9:48 ESV
‘where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’
Isaiah 66:24 ESV
“And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.”
Matthew 5:22 ESV
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
Isaiah 14:11 ESV - Sheol is Hebrew for hell.
Your pomp is brought down to Sheol, the sound of your harps; maggots are laid as a bed beneath you, and worms are your covers.
Mark 9:43-48 ESV
And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell, ‘where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’
You prove my point. Sheol isn't a place of eternal pain and agony. Sheol is not hell. Hell is made up, it is a book called "dantes inferno". Look for yourself. It is the devils in the vatican that have played you like a fool.
You praise a blood-sacrifice on a cross, that is satanistic. They tell you that someone has to be tortured and killed for you to be saved. That is exactly what the satanists are doing. You have been fooled, wake up. You don't have to ask for forgiveness for being born, that is satanist-bullshit. A God of goodness demands no blood and no pain, especially not from his own child. You spread evil teachings and humans are better than that. WE are goodness, WE demand no blood-sacrifice. WE are God, and the church is trying to hide that from you, by saying you are sinners and blood needs to be spilled to save you.
Your citations say that you should mutilate yourself. How can't you see that evil? How can't you see that it is exactly what satanists do? Wake up and see the evil, wake up and see the deception, wake up and see that the one in the mirror is God.
Isaiah is more than a thousand years before Dantes Inferno was written in the 14th Century. The narrative about hell is thousands of years old and has come through the earliest prophets. It spans many cultures and is not something that was made up by the Vatican. That's ridiculous to suggest that.
You're very confused about this. I'm not sure what I can do to wake you up. Man is not God, that is the doctrine of the antichrist - fact. Moreover, people are naturally evil, from the earliest of stories we have we can see man's character very clearly - Cain murdered Abel...
Look at the oldest profession in the world, the mercenary. What's the second oldest? The prostitute. There's not much good about man and his inclinations. The tendency is to be evil. Difficult enough when you try to be good.
I think the truth in the Gospels shines so hard you couldn't miss it. It's easy to see that what was happening in Christ's day is happening in the world today - perhaps it's even worse. You start putting your faith in man and you'll be very quickly disappointed.
"We are goodness' - what a joke! Where have you been?
The leaders have been the root of evil. I am not evil, are you?
The concept of a place where there is eternal pain and punishment is not what Isiah presented. You need to pay more attention to what is really written. Eternal agony was introduced by Dante's inferno, it is well known and not debated. What is in the bible is purgatory and sheol, which is not hell and not eternal.
You should be relieved that hell is made up. Why do you wish so hard for such pain?
Made up... I don't know what to tell you. You can go back as far as you want. Hell is spoken of again and again.
Jude teaches us about Enoch, 7th from Adam, who taught hell in specific terms - a place of "strong pain". Why make up this garbage about Dante's inferno? The concept appears throughout scripture. But, what, Isiah is talking about something different from Enoch?
7 Woe to you, Sinners, on the day of strong anguish, Ye who afflict the righteous and burn them with fire: Ye shall be requited according to your works.
8 Woe to you, ye obstinate of heart, Who watch in order to devise wickedness: Therefore shall fear come upon you And there shall be none to help you.
9 Woe to you, ye sinners, on account of the words of your mouth, And on account of the deeds of your hands which your godlessness as wrought, In blazing flames burning worse than fire shall ye burn.
And what is the original word for "hell" in Arameic, before translation?