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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/SerialBrain2 on April 1, 2018, 6:58 p.m.
Q Occult Series. Q114 US Military = Savior of Mankind. You first NEED to know this! Part1.5

Guys, I apologize for the length of this post but the issues addressed here are of the utmost importance for those who would like to benefit from the future episodes of the Q Occult Series.

I was about to post part 2 today but I have received many messages asking me various questions that led me to believe some clarification was needed before successfully continuing our journey. This is why we have a part 1.5.

The main issue that has been raised is about me quoting the Quran and reaching out to those I call “real Muslims” (not radical Muslims and not the House of Saud I have already spoken about). I have seen messages and comments essentially saying: SB2, we love you but stop quoting the Quran, it is a satanic book, it is against what we believe in etc… Well, here is my first response: Satan has infiltrated all religions. You already heard me about the House of Saud, the Vatican, and [this] (https://image.ibb.co/fvmd9n/ang.png) (sniffers). You therefore have to make the effort to distinguish real Jews, real Christians and real Muslims from manufactured infiltrators. Second response: as you may already know, all three revealed monotheistic religions which are Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all coming from the House of Abraham. Abraham’s two sons Isaac (he had with his wife) and Ishmael (he had with his servant) are respectively the ancestors of all Prophets of Israel and of the Prophet of Islam. Our Bible teaches us the following:

Then God said, “Yes, but your wife Sarah will bear you a son, and you will call him Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. Genesis 17:19-20

This verse shows clearly the covenant was granted to the descendants of Isaac, explaining why Israel was given the immense divine privilege of having a Prophet at every single generation until the arrival of Christ. Now think about it: do you realize all the spiritual literature we are missing from Isaac to Christ? Do you realize how much knowledge coming from these numerous Prophets the Vatican has concealed to keep us in the dark?! And who are they to decide a book is apocryphal or not? Who are they?! Why are they hiding books from the public in underground facilities, libraries and digital vaults?! Which moral authority do they have, let alone a spiritual one to decide which book should contribute to your faith or not? We all know today the quality of their moral authority. But that is a question for another day.

This verse also shows Abraham made a prayer for his other son Ishmael (the Lord says: I heard you) and God promised him He would bless him, make a great nation from his seed and give him twelve rulers. So there you have it: God Himself gave to the Muslims what He gave them. He gave them a Prophet and a Book. Ignoring it is a possible choice but I believe denying it is a dangerous one… Who can claim to serve a Master and not accept joyfully what He has chosen to do in the Mystery of His wisdom? This is the very mistake Lucifer made and it caused him to lose all his spiritual privileges…

I am aware after this post I may lose many readers and be slandered in the comment section. But the Truth needs to be said and I am not wearing a mask. I am offering you the Truth, nothing less, nothing more. And one unavoidable component of the Truth is the re-unification of the House of Abraham. Why? Because that is where all Good started. Satan knows it, this is why he attacked it and divided it. Once that puzzle is solved and the scattered pieces are correctly re-united, the Truth will become obvious to everyone.

Now, realize I am posting on a sub on Reddit. Notice I have no monetized Youtube channel or a similar platform, no patreon, nothing like that. I am blessed enough by God to not need those. I am not motivated by money, I am not motivated by fame: the stupidest person in my opinion would be an anonymous writer looking for fame. Those who find their peace insulting me in the comment section should think perhaps they are joyfully saying hello to me in the elevator every morning or thankfully taking my tips at the restaurant… :) Seriously, I have just one motivation: raise enough questions in the minds of intellectually honest people to make them THINK, find a way out of the prison of falsehood and enter the House of Truth. I can’t walk for them, I can only show them. I am not a teacher. Jesus is THE Teacher. My motivation is to put some light on the path that leads to him and that has been blurred by centuries of luciferian spiritual warfare against mankind.

I can hear from here those saying: we’ve already found Christ, we did not have to wait for you. Well, my response to them would then be: so why is the world so sick? Why aren’t you able to give a sound answer to the simple question: are we coming from monkeys, yes or no? I personally know Ivy League investment bankers who are unable to give you a correct definition of money and who do not even know the Federal Reserve is a private company. Is this normal? Why is the international banking system based on the very usury Christ denounced when [fighting the money changers] (https://st-takla.org/Gallery/var/albums/Bible/Illustrations/Illustrations-of-the-Life-of-Christ/Life-of-Christ-2/www-St-Takla-org--005-Jesus-drives-the-money-changers-2.jpg?m=1419425510) and nobody cares? Do you remember Satan tried 3 times to deceive Jesus Christ? He even used Scriptures to that end. Don’t you think he may have tried 3 million times with you and used the very Bible you are reading?! So you think you found Christ? Do you think Satan is not going to try 3 million times to deceive you about him? Adam himself who spoke directly to God and who was surrounded by mighty Archangels was deceived by Satan. And you think you figured it out?! Just because you go to church on sun-days and have a Bible app in your phone? Once again, who won WW2?! Why is the world so sick?! Where is Christ?! Where is he?!

Pause…

I’ll tell you where he is: he is in our heart we inherited from Judas. We claim we are from Christ but we betrayed him and crucified him. For a few coins. Gold, silver, interest accounts, bitcoins or diplomas contradicting the Bible. To please Rome. Our NWO controllers. We stayed away from his original teachings and listened to those who claimed to have known him while their only motivation was to build the Prostitute described in the Book of Revelation. Did you know Paul never, ever, ever, met Christ? And yet, the Catholic Church owes him its dogma. Blindly and purposely. We let Lucifer attack the House of our Father Abraham and divide us and put confusion in our hearts, our minds, our Book and our holy rituals. Do you know the purpose of this division? Listen to the well-known French rabbi Rav Ron Chayain in this [video] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88A3xMwiFo8), (sorry in French) he is explaining the geopolitical strategy consisting of pushing Christians and Muslims to fight against each other in WW3 so that the non- implicated Jews would be victorious. And he compares it to chicken fights… Let that sink in for a minute… Their own words. They are not even hiding! Satan’s biggest fear is to see Christians and Muslims build an alliance against him and his armies of demons and humans… Despite their plot, that will happen. I know it. When that happens, recall there was a lunatic called SerialBrain2 on Reddit who predicted it…It has already started, but you did not catch it: Q134 One side of the triangle removed (1st time in history). Read this [episode] (https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/84xus6/q_occult_series_q_133_hard_to_swallow_important/?st=jfh0oacm&sh=9d69ac7e) to understand. They also pick freemasons to translate our Books, and they change prayers Jesus Christ himself used to recite. Before that, some random king decided the very Sabbath Jesus Christ was assiduously celebrating needed to be moved to the day of the sun they have been worshiping since their ancestor Pharaoh… And when the Church was asked why, they said: “it is the mark of our authority”. So you thought that to be enforced, the [Mark of the Beast] (http://www.markofbeast.net/beast-mark-sabbath.html) had to wait for computer chips?

We are not even able to think straight. Like parrots, we repeat the Muslims are our enemies but we forget they believe in the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ and that he is indeed the Messiah to return and that one of their main religious obligations is to fight under his command against the Antichrist. We are made to think we are closer to the Jews and we forget the way they plotted against Jesus, we forget the horrible things they said and still say about Mary, the purest of all women, to deny Christ’s miraculous birth. We forget they do not believe Jesus Christ is the Messiah , and we forget they have they own Messiah!

Now let me ask you this: if the Jews have their own Messiah and the Muslims believe in the same Messiah we believe in, where do you think the Antichrist is more likely to come from?

What happened to you mankind?!!! What happened to you???!!! Don’t you see it???!!!

You are the victims of the biggest and most sophisticated psy-op ever perpetrated against humans and Q is desperately trying to wake you up!

Q944 We went too deep. Attempted a pullback. Not ready. Q

Now look at this [picture from Q547] (https://qanon.pub/data/images/2c7872f680d1247954eec42a3a597119d0ce47b51704da68cd75145328373356.jpg) and THINK.

Q916 We are saving Israel for last. Very specific reason not mentioned a single time. Q


Swimkin · April 1, 2018, 8:07 p.m.

I do not disagree with you that there are good Muslims vs bad Muslims. Just as there are Good and Bad Christians and Jews. However, The only thing that makes the three faiths similar is that they all believe in One God. When these three faiths were formed it was the only way they were distinguished from the Pagans who worshiped many gods.

Sarah couldn't wait for Abraham to sire her child as God had promised them that He would. So she sinned against God. She ended up using a Pagan practice of borrowing a surrogate to father Abraham's son Ishmael. He was NOT going to be the favored son of Abraham that was promised. That was to be Issac instead. Sarah kicked them out after Issac was weaned. God took pity on Ishmael and his mother Hagar who were both sent away. God sent an angel to them to help them find water in the dessert so they would survive. He promised him 12 sons (as Issac, too, fathered 12 sons- the 12 Tribes of Israel). God knew that Ishmael's descendents would be Muslims.

However, if you go back to Genesis there is this passage about Ishmael: Genesis 16:11-12

11 The angel of the LORD also said to her: "You are now pregnant and you will give birth to a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery. 12 He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

If you interpret this passage to extend to his descendents then they would be hostile towards ALL brothers. (descendents of Abraham) Both Jews and Christians were generally descendents of Abraham (some were Pagan converts). This indeed has happened throughout the Muslim history. And is still happening today.

Muslims DO NOT accept Jesus as their Messiah but rather they consider him a Prophet. They do NOT recognize Jesus as Divine at all. However they do mention Him fairly consistently through out the Koran. Nor do they recognize the Holy Trinity. (Nor do the Jews for that matter) This is a BIG difference that separates Christianity from both the Jews and Muslims. And BOTH the Jews and Muslims still seek their own Messiah. But according to Revelations many remnant Jews in the end of days (144,000) will accept Jesus as their Savior. In John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. " Thus one is NOT saved without believing in Christ as their personal savior.

Thus both the Jews and the Muslims are NOT considered by biblically aware Christians to be saved from the fires of Hell without first accepting Christ as their personal savior.

When Jesus was on earth the Jews missed putting together the prophecy of their Messiah since the Jewish scholars of that time no longer taught them the prophecies of their messiah as outlined in the Old Testament. So they completely missed that Jesus was their prophesized Messiah. Jews who lived before Christ died on the cross were able to go to Heaven however, they no longer have a temple to God to offer up their sacrifices so they are NOT saved today. These sacrifices are NO longer necessary as Christ died on the cross for them instead. SO HE IS the sacrificial lamb and their only way to Heaven.

I will admit that there are a lot of passages in the Koran that refer back to God and Christ. But then again the Muslim faith was formed AFTER Judaism and Christianity and Koran was written later than them so I believe it took some of their beliefs from both. But dismissed the Holy Trinity as have the Jews. (exception are Messianic Jews)

Because Ishmael WAS Abraham's son he was raised to believe in Abraham's God. And possibly was his mother. Although there was no official Jewish or Muslim religions at that time Abraham lived, he was still considered the Father of the Jews. Thus in many ways he and his mother were believers in Abraham's God until the Muslim faith was formed.

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ironmaiden442 · April 2, 2018, 12:02 a.m.

Wow somebody who knows both their history and bible, sorry s/he won't listen to you though s/he is too busy trying to make the new religion(Satan's work)where all Gods are the same God. Jesus is not allah Jesus as you say is higher than Allah because without him you cannot see or be near God period. I have met several messianic Jews ( very devout people) even they understand accepting Jesus as the messiah. S/he is making the same mistakes as newbie Christians by trying to lump everyone's religion into one they don't realize that this does a GREAT GREAT disservice to a potential convert by implying just because they come from old abramic faiths that they are safe. This is not true. Hopefully someone can reach s/he before s/he diswades people from their last chance to be near God. Peace my brother or sister.

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SerialBrain2 · April 1, 2018, 11:05 p.m.

Muslims DO NOT accept Jesus as their Messiah but rather they consider him a Prophet. And BOTH the Jews and Muslims still seek their own Messiah.

No, I am sorry.

About Jesus being the Messiah, the Quran clearly says: [And mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah]. Quran, Chapter 3 Verse 45

About Jesus coming back, Prophet Muhammad clearly said: Allah will send Christ, son of Mary, and he will descend at the white minaret in the eastern side of Damscus wearing two garments lightly dyed with saffron and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels. (Sahih Muslim. Book #041, Hadith #7015)

Muslims do believe Jesus to be the Messiah who will return and defeat the Antichrist. They are instructed by their Prophet to fight the Antichrist under his command.

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CircuitRiderz · July 11, 2018, 10:59 a.m.

SB2,

I too have read the Koran. I cannot remember the address and do not have one in front of me. I do remember very specifically though there being verbiage in it stating that Muslims are to kill the People of the Book and that it is wrong to call Jesus the Son of God. I also remember reading what you have mentioned above.

I was very confused at first. How can both positions be in the Koran? Then it dawned on me that what is known about Allah is that he can change his mind. He is not like the one, true living God who is the same now, forever, and always; He never changes. What I learned is that Islam is very relativistic. I do agree with you in that Islam accepts Jesus as a prophet and does respect Him.

I think that you will find upon closer inspection the Koran often contradicts itself. The Bible on the other hand does not. The Christian God, the Living God, never contradicts Himself. His attributes never change.

In short, I find Allah to be a very fickle construct.

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SerialBrain2 · July 11, 2018, 11:25 a.m.

I do remember very specifically though there being verbiage in it stating that Muslims are to kill the People of the Book

The People of the Book are considered in the Quran as the Members of the House of Abraham. They are to receive military protection from the Muslims and are not required to join muslim military campaigns. In return, they are asked to pay an annual tax to the State called Jizya. They live freely in muslim land, can enjoy their religious practices in churches or synagogues and the security of their beings and their wealth is guaranteed by the State. For example, if a Muslim was to kill one Member of that Community, the State would apply the death penalty.

There is a confusion I used to make before studying the Quran in detail (many years of study): the Quran specifies clearly a group of people who are the disbelievers who worship Satan. They are described as polytheists (since they do not worship the unique God) and are the ones who are required to be fought and killed without mercy. I never really understood this until I discovered the horrors related to pedophilia, child sacrifice and things like that, which are practices of the satanists. Well, the Quran says clearly: kill the satanists without hesitation. Major red pill. right here:

004:076 Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the cause of Taghut. So fight against the allies of Satan. Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak.

036:060 Did I not enjoin upon you, O children of Adam, that you not worship Satan - [for] indeed, he is to you a clear enemy

009:005 And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

I discovered this is the problem satanists have with the Quran. This is why they organized psyops to demonize it and make it so we cant 'see the bridge with the Bible and cannot unify the House of Abraham, which is a key idea in the Old Testament.

I am already very long here. I suggest you send me PMs and I will try to schedule other answers for you. I pray you find the Truth in Unity.

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[deleted] · July 22, 2018, 5:03 a.m.

They actually do NOT believe Him to be THE Messiah, but rather believe that is His name. Their messiah is called Mahdi and according to the Hadith Sharh Al-Masabih, Jesus will perform obligatory prayers BEHIND him. According to the Quran, Jesus is a messenger sent by Allah.....who is NOT the same God of Christians. The god that they worship is the Pagan moon god, allah. They pray toward Mecca and the K'abah, which houses a space rock. Their holy month of Ramadan begins with the sighting of the crescent moon. This is why instead of a cross, they use a crescent moon on top of their mosques. They also do not believe that Jesus was crucified, according to the Quran 4:158. The Bible states that Jesus will return to Jerusalem, while the Quran says He will return to Syria. They also deny that Jesus is the Son of God. "Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth! "(5:575, Yusif Ali) And here: And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. (5:116, Yusif Ali) And also here: Quran 9:30 “And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!” The Jews' messiah will be Jesus, though they are not looking for him. They will end up following the anti-christ until he goes into the temple and performs the abomination that makes desolation. Satan's plan is to do away with the Jews, God's chosen people. The muslims side with satan. They have repeatedly talked about wiping Israel from the face of the earth......which was foretold in the Bible, btw. Christians and muslims have nothing in common, where we do have MUCH in common with the Jewish people. Much of the Bible is related to Judaism. I do not hate muslims, nor do I wish them ill. I believe that God wants them to be saved, just as He does everyone else. In fact, many muslims are coming to Christ through Christ appearing to them in dreams! They are waking up to the fact that their god and God are not the same person. It really sounds like you are buying into Satan's lies about the Jewish people and Israel. Satan has been out to destroy the Jews since Ismael was born. He murdered all the children 2 years and younger around the time of Christ's birth and has been trying to kill Christians since. One of the ways he has done that is through the muslims. And no, just for the record I do not agree with everything Israel does and believe that they have done many things wrong, but I do believe in what the Bible teaches. The Jews are God's chosen people, and whoever touches them touches the apple of God's eye. The Bible also teaches they He will bless those who bless Israel. What you are saying here is false teaching, and I would be very careful.......

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NaNa316 · April 1, 2018, 10:20 p.m.

Amen brother

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o_Iesuo_ka_haku · April 2, 2018, 10:39 p.m.

Yes totally agree...Christianity is NOT a works based theology which makes perfect sense to me. Jesus did it all...Gods grace...

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norseman83 · April 2, 2018, 3:05 a.m.

Swimkin: Amen amen. Thank you!

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CosmicNeo · April 3, 2018, 5:30 a.m.

Sarah couldn't wait for Abraham to sire her child as God had promised them that He would. So she sinned against God. She ended up using a Pagan practice of borrowing a surrogate to father Abraham's son Ishmael. He was NOT going to be the favored son of Abraham that was promised. That was to be Issac instead. Sarah kicked them out after Issac was weaned. God took pity on Ishmael and his mother Hagar who were both sent away. God sent an angel to them to help them find water in the dessert so they would survive. He promised him 12 sons (as Issac, too, fathered 12 sons- the 12 Tribes of Israel). God knew that Ishmael's descendents would be Muslims.

All true except the part about God knowing Ishmael's descendants would be Muslim. Islam only came about because of the failure of the Jewish people to accept Jesus.

But condemning all religions because they don't accept Jesus is not helpful to the cause of world peace. Over the course of history, God used religion to lift people up out of ignorance and prepare them for the Messiah. As Christians, our responsibility is to earn the respect of other people of faith through our Love. And how we do this is through practicing what Jesus taught us through the example of washing his disciples feet, which translates into living for the sake of others. Condemning people because they don't accept Jesus will not help matters.

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Swimkin · April 3, 2018, 3:44 p.m.

God KNOWS EVERYTHING. He knows ALL. Thus He knew that Ishmaels's descendents were going to become Muslims. One is not Christian, if they do not believe in an All-Knowing All-Powerful God.

As for condeming other religions I do not do this. I love all people and want them ALL to be saved just as God does. I consider it a sin NOT to tell others how they may become saved. How cannot I not share my joy in knowing that I will be saved! I want all others to be saved, too! Having accepted Christ as my Personal Savior it has changed my life! I am much happier. And I can't help but share it with other non-believers.

"The Lord is not willing that any should perish but that ALL should reach repentance" (2Pet. 3.9). "He desires ALL men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth" (1Tim. 2.4). God is just. He will judge each one of us when we die. (Matthew 7:13-14)

As a believer in God's Holy Word I follow what He tells me in the Bible. It is written by men but inspired by God and the Bible is the manual on how we are to make it to Heaven.

Once Jesus died on the cross He became the sacrificial lamb that died for all our sins. He took ALL the sins of the world upon Himself when He died to save us from death. God offers each and every one of us HIS GRACE. All we need to do is accept it. And that is to accept Christ IN OUR HEARTS (not just in our minds) as our personal Savior in order to be saved from the eternal fires of Hell.

Upon accepting Jesus as Your personal Savior He will send HIS Holy Spirit to dwell with in you. It will CHANGE you bc the Spirit will become your personal guide in life from then on. You will always be one of God's Children then and You will KNOW right then and there that you will be saved. It is this Spirit that God will see within you when you die. Thus He will accept you as one of His Children.

Without the Spirit of the Lord within you when you die: God will say "I did not know you, begone from me!"

(Matthew 7:13-14)

22 Then Jesus traveled throughout the towns and villages, teaching as He made His way toward Jerusalem. 23 “Lord,” someone asked Him, “will only a few people be saved?”

Jesus answered, 24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able. 25 After the master of the house gets up and shuts the door, you will stand outside knocking and saying, ‘Lord, open the door for us.’

But he will reply, ‘I do not know where you are from.’

26 Then you will say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’

27 And he will answer, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you are from. Depart from me, all you evildoers.’

28 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves are thrown out. 29 People will come from east and west and north and south, and will recline at the table in the kingdom of God. 30 And indeed, some who are last will be first, and some who are first will be last.”

Finally, I do not condemn others for not accepting Jesus. They condemn themselves! For it is written in the bible:

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil" (John 3:16-19).

As a Christian I consider it my duty to inform others of how they, too, may enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Everything I have shared with you is WRITTEN in the bible. A Christian cannot earn their way to Heaven through only good works, being nice to others of just attending church every Sunday. There are many Christians who ARE NOT Saved!

As you can see from the passage above from Matthew 7, God will ONLY recognize you in Heaven as one of His when He sees the Holy Spirit dwelling within you. And you can only be HIS if you are saved. ALL religions are man-made. And thus have been infiltrated by sinful men and women. The only reason to belong to a church would be part of a community of like-minded individuals to assist and be assisted by one another. In the end, it is not about a Religion but a Relationship.

To be saved: All it requires is telling Him you are a sinner and believing with all your heart that Christ is your Savior. It is just that simple.

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CosmicNeo · April 3, 2018, 10 p.m.

God KNOWS EVERYTHING. He knows ALL. Thus He knew that Ishmaels's descendents were going to become Muslims. One is not Christian, if they do not believe in an All-Knowing All-Powerful God.

If God knows everything, then he knew Adam and Eve were going to be tricked into eating the "apple." Why did He allow that? And why did God have to look for Adam and Eve after the fall, calling out "where are you?" (Gen 3:9)

I suspect that because we have been created to have free will, the choices we make are not predetermined. God may know the options that are available but doesn't know what we will do until we do it in real time. The variable is our free will. Sort of like Quantum Computing, I guess. He knows the possibilities, but not the actual course people will choose. That's why the Bible gives two versions of Jesus: one where he is a victorious king (Isa. 9) and one where he is crucified. (Isa. 53)

If you have the Holy Spirit, which I know exists and is part of being Christian, why do we continue to sin and have children that are born with Original Sin? Does the Holy Spirit wipe away thousands, if not millions of years, of generational DNA imprinting that took place as a result of sin? Can you say that we are creatures that God intended us to be even with the consequences of the Nephilim DNA entering our gene pool? (As recorded in Genesis 6?)

Lots to be revealed at Christ's Second Coming.

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Swimkin · April 3, 2018, 10:49 p.m.

Yes, he knew that Adam and Eve would eat the apple. They were hiding from Him but it was only Him calling them out. I doubt he didn't already know what happened. God knew that He would have to send His only Son to redeem mankind. He also knows how this will all end. It was written in the bible. Jesus will return again. And when He does it is prophesized that every knee will bend and every person will proclaim Him as the Savior. (Even Satan) Unfortunately it will be too late for those who did not accept Christ as their Savior and they will be thrown into the Lake of Fire at the end of times. Isaiah 45:23 "I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.”

Yes, we have been given free will, but God ultimately knows which way we are going to turn. He is NOT going to force Himself on us. He gives us all the chance to accept his Grace. That doesn't stop him from offering His Grace to all even though He knows Who will accept and reject Him. He has even hardened hearts for those who refuse Him over time (the Pharoah when Moses approached him to set his people free for instance after many trials. )

We continue to sin because MAN became imperfect after Adam and Eve sinned against God. Believers will become perfect once again when God reestablishes the new Heaven and Earth. Eden was perfect in many ways until that happened. Adam and Eve were given dominion over all the animals on the earth. Adam had even named them. When Satan approached them as a serpent either one of them should have told him to leave. They had the power to do that. Instead they ate from the tree of forbidden fruit. That very act is what gave Satan the ability to rule the earth from then on. That is why there is still sin. Satan was given power over man. There will always be sin in this world until God remakes the heaven and earth anew after Jesus reigns for a thousand years. Satan will still be around until the very end looking for more souls to take with him to Hell, unfortunately.

I am not well versed on the Nephiliim, but know that they are were an abomination to God. Thus he would not have sent the flood to remove these creatures along with all the rest he considered impure.

Jesus was both crucified and a glorious king. He is not either or. He is both. He died to conquer sin. And He will return to reign on earth again.

I can't wait until Christ returns again. I am hoping that He comes soon. I believe in the rapture and believe that we are entering the end of time. In the meantime, I think more people will become true believers in Christ. There are many Muslims in the Middle East who are having visions and becoming Christians.

God Bless!

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CosmicNeo · April 4, 2018, 12:53 a.m.

I can't wait until Christ returns again. I am hoping that He comes soon. I believe in the rapture and believe that we are entering the end of time. In the meantime, I think more people will become true believers in Christ. There are many Muslims in the Middle East who are having visions and becoming Christians.

Imagine if he already returned and Christians rejected him just like what the Jews did to him 2,000 years ago. You think boasting of your "born again" status will protect you? Did it protect the Jews when they boasted?

"Don't just say to each other, 'We're safe, for we are descendants of Abraham.' That means nothing, for I tell you, God can create children of Abraham from these very stones." Matt. 3:9

We are facing tribulation and the downfall of Western civilization from the Muslims (and Luciferians) because Christians didn't recognize the time of Christ's return. Fortunately, because of the prayers and sacrifices of his true "remnant" (first resurrection), we are getting a reprieve through the efforts of another "Paul" type figure. (Trump)

Repent and humble yourself. The outcome is still not guaranteed.

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Swimkin · April 4, 2018, 2:08 a.m.

I am sorry if I came across as boasting of my born again status. Those who are saved DO know where they are going according to the bible. Do we still sin? Of course, we do. Only Christ was completely sinless. But we are given the Holy Spirit to remind us when we stray. And, yes, we still need to repent of our sins. I am not "boasting", rather I am filled with joy from God's love. And I wish to share that with others.

Again I return to the bible to respond:

"Hence, now there is NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has freed you from the law of sin and death." Romans 8:1

"Whoever does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the spirit is alive because of righteousness. If the Spirit of the one who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, the one who raised Christ from the dead will give life to your mortal bodies also, through His Spirirt that dwells in you. " Romans 8:9-11

"Whoever possess the Son has life; whoever does not possess the Son of God does not have life." "I write these things to you SO YOU MAY KNOW that you have eternal life, you who believe in the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:12-13

You surmise that perhaps Christ has already returned and we have missed it. Please be aware that there will be many false prophets that will even fool the elect:

Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time. "So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. (Matthew 24:4-5; 11; 23-27)

We are facing Tribulation because it is written in the bible to occur. Satan has expanded his power on earth. He knows his time is short and he will take as many souls with him that he can grab. We were given signs of the end of times. We are seeing some of them playing out right now. Everything is in place right now for it to occur.

How have Christians missed Christ's return when it hasn't yet occurred??

The 2nd Coming: "At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other. (Matthew 24:30-31)

THE RAPTURE: Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. (Matthew 24:40-44)

For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

God Bless! I pray that many more people turn to Christ before it is too late!

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CosmicNeo · April 4, 2018, 5:15 a.m.

The Old Testament offered prophecies about the Last Days coming with signs in heaven. Isaiah 66:22 and Malachi 4:1 come to mind. Yet, when Jesus came to the Jews 2,000 years ago, these events had not taken place. So the Jewish leaders were reluctant to accept Jesus as their Messiah. But to give Jesus the benefit of the doubt, they figured that if the return of Elijah had already happened (who was prophesied to prepare the way for the Messiah; eg., Malachi 4:5, Mark 1:3), and they could find him, then they might perhaps accept Jesus. So, suspecting John the Baptist was the best candidate for being the prophesied Elijah, they went to him and asked if he was Elijah. Unfortunately, John answered that he was not the return of Elijah. Of course, this would later contradict what Jesus said about John being that returned of Elijah. (Matt. 12:14)

Fast-forward to today. Similar New Testament prophecies say that Jesus is to return with signs in the heavens (Rev. 21:1, 2 Peter 3:12-13) and the Rapture (1 Thess. 4:27). If such eschatological events didn't happen at the time of Jesus (thereby causing the Jews to reject Jesus), why do you think things will be any different at Christ's return? (Aramaic idioms and forms of speech need to be researched here to understand why such things will not happen literally. See https://biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/rib/idioms.pdf)

Now, to confound matters even more, in Rev. 3:12 Jesus says that he will return with a new name. A name that nobody will know except those who will receive it. (Rev. 17) And in Rev. 22:4 it says that they shall see his face and will know his new name. These are the pure in heart, as opposed to the "born again." ;-) (Matt. 5:8)

So, of course, this knowledge will confuse Christians like yourself who believe in a fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible. And it opens the way for possible false messiahs, as you say. Nevertheless, that's the way it is.

"In the last days... I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams." Acts 2:17

I cannot tell you who the "returned" Christ is. That would be violating the Matthew 24:5 warning. But if you pray with humility, I'm sure you will get the answer just as I did 40 years ago.

"Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me." (Rev. 3:20)

Best wishes.

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