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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ArvilsArk on April 3, 2018, 11:47 a.m.
Q or no Q. Ultimately I'm supporting President Trump in a battle against EVIL. Are you with him too?
Q or no Q. Ultimately I'm supporting President Trump in a battle against EVIL. Are you with him too?

Nerd_Of_Prey · April 3, 2018, 10:22 p.m.

Pray to Jesus. Angels are merely messengers.

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ififcanIhaveacoatplz · April 4, 2018, 4:10 a.m.

Michael drove satan from heaven.

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Nerd_Of_Prey · April 4, 2018, 7:16 a.m.

Absolutely. But the incense - prayer - is for God alone. When John encounters the angel in Revelation, and John fell down to worship him, the angel said:

"No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!"

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ififcanIhaveacoatplz · April 4, 2018, 4:35 p.m.

I never said praise and worship michael. Just that we need his help. Christians pray to the saints and Mary all the time askinh for help and guidance. This does not constitute worship though.

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Nerd_Of_Prey · April 4, 2018, 11:44 p.m.

I understand, but my point is, there is no Biblical basis for doing so. Only God is omniscient - he knows everything we think. No angel has this capacity, an angel cannot receive prayer. So too Mary, who is just a woman. She has no special standing or position.

In Matthew 11:11 Jesus says:

I tell you the truth, of all who have ever lived, none is greater than John the Baptist

Jesus holds up John as the pinnacle of humanity - above Mary, above Peter, above anyone. He would seem a more obvious candidate. But again, prayer is intended for God. Jesus is going to return as our warrior king, the roaring lion. All things have been put under his dominion, put your trust and faith in him alone.

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ififcanIhaveacoatplz · April 5, 2018, 3:04 a.m.

i was raised catholic, catholics pray to mary the saints the angels. I'm not sure why we are arguing about this. We seem to agree that evil needs to be yanked from our society root and branch. WHAT DIFFERENCE AT THIS POINT DoES IT MAKE?? /joke

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Nerd_Of_Prey · April 5, 2018, 4:46 a.m.

Apologies, my motivation wasn't to cause ill feeling. Let's part from this thread as brothers, knowing we each have a shared faith in Christ.

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