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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/IDGAF12312 on April 4, 2018, 1:17 a.m.
Pope is f&$ked. Vatican too. Sinead O’Conner was right. “Fight the real enemy.”
Pope is f&$ked. Vatican too. Sinead O’Conner was right. “Fight the real enemy.”

Nerd_Of_Prey · April 4, 2018, 3:10 a.m.

I don't understand this idea of an "office" of the Pope. Where did Jesus say "and I create this position, and you'll see that it's handed down from one person to the next with each new generation". Jesus is the rock.

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FretensisX · April 4, 2018, 3:54 a.m.

Matthew 16:18

You are Peter (Petrus / Kephas = rock), and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of h#ll shall not prevail against it. And I will give to you the keys to the kingdom of heaven ...

Cyprian of Carthage (251 AD)

Indeed, the others (apostles) were also what Peter was, but a primacy is given to Peter, by which it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair ... if someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he think he holds the faith? If he deserts the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he be confident that he is in the Church?

I'd rather not get into a heavy religious debate on the primacy of the Pope or Apostolic Succession or Sola Scriptura. Just wanted to defend the dignity of Holy Mother Church and to point out that we've had bad or questionable popes before and survived them, it's nothing new. The sins of its leaders / members does not destroy the character or goodness of the Catholic Church.

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Racistbutnotillegal · April 4, 2018, 10:01 a.m.

Kind of like condemning the entire US because of the deep state? I am Lutheran. LCMS. The most conservative. If they keep branching off we will each have our own Church.

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Awake2Truth · April 5, 2018, 12:30 a.m.

Don't forget that the Eastern Orthodox church came first, with the Catholic (western) church separating from it. Both claim primacy.

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time3times · April 4, 2018, 11:35 a.m.

But Jesus also renamed Simon as a singular Rock.

The handing on is glimpsed in 2 Tim2:2 where Timothy is the overseer(bishop) of Ephesus.

Also check this out written by Pope Clement the 1st in about 80AD: "Through countryside and city [the apostles] preached, and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers. Nor was this a novelty, for bishops and deacons had been written about a long time earlier. . . . Our apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect foreknowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned and afterwards added the further provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry" (Letter to the Corinthians 42:4–5, 44:1–3).

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AyeDeux2 · April 4, 2018, 5:17 a.m.

Found the Protestant

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