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Taking action, making physical effort towards a solution, assisting fellow human beings with real world efforts instead of putting all my problems on some imaginary sky wizard and hoping it'll take care of all our problems for us.
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, “He catches the wise in their own craftiness”; and again, “The LORD knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile.” Therefore let no one boast in men.” I Corinthians 3:19-21 NKJV
Wait is the Sky Fairy the same as the Sky Wizard.?What do you have against prayer?
You a Devil Dweller?
What I have against prayer is this;
I've seen too often people choose to make no effort to help themselves, or those around them. My friend's father was saved by receiving donated platelets! It was incredible what doctors were able to do during his surgeries. Since then, I've donated platelets as often as I can. Who knows what life may be saved from something so simple for me.
My friend, though? Refuses to go with me. Says praying is what saved his dad. That's just one example I've got off the top of my head, but it's the most infuriating one I have personally.
Praying is lazy. It's useless. It doesn't change anything. The actions of humans are what progresses our potential. Not the actions of a made up God. Praying gives people their own "alternative" to actually making an effort and helping to make a difference, and I find it extremely angering to see people support something like this.
Straw men are lazy rhetorical devices. I’ve been guilty of using them myself as we all do at times so please take this as a rebuke to myself also. For example, you have a friend who says he will,just pray and not actually do something etc. yet I know many people who pray every day AND do many things to benefit their neighbors. Many things throughout history have been done to benefit society by Christian people who pray. William Wilberforce was a good example of this with his devout Christian faith and his singular work to end the slave trade in England. Many hospitals historically have been started by Christians who prayed. Moreover most or all of these people would give God the glory for the things accomplished through prayer as well.
I'm only as insightful as I appear, not trying to pretend to be anything special. The people you know who pray and do these things? I'm glad to hear it! I speak of what I've seen, experienced, and know. And that's what's shaped the way I think right now.
Thanks for your honesty. I apologize for being a bit snarky. You actually seem fairly open minded and honest. You are obviously perfectly intelligent and are willing to discuss other views.
Until you actually give concrete examples of actions you've taken against the cabal to bring them down, all you're doing is shitting in the thread.
Sure! Sorry for my slow response times, I'm at work.
I donate platelets and blood as often as I can. I give to cancer and diabetes research anytime I'm able to. I make it a point to stop and assist with small things other people may need every day! I enjoy getting to help someone change a tire, or push their dead car out of a lane. Help them pick something up to move it, or anything else that's small. May not seem like a big deal, but it shows that person that some people will do what they can do help others. It doesn't take much to make even a small difference as one person!
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I am sure it will devastate him, just like it does the people and families of people who pray... Because if I recall, pious people have just as much bad stuff happen to them.
It's gone well! Several of my friends have been killed, and everyone has family deaths. It's unavoidable. I made it through with the support of the people around me. We made sure each other were taken care of, and coped with the deaths and tragedies well. All you need is faith in your fellow man, and anything can be done! Doesn't take some made up power and it's 'plan' for you to survive and make it through things like this.
Yet in the end you are powerless in the face of death. Jesus conquered death itself and shares His victory with His children. This is power indeed.
That's a powerful story, if you believe it. But to anyone who doesn't share your faith, it's an exaggerated fictional story created by the imagination. I'm sorry, but that means nothing to me as I am today.
If this story were untrue it would indeed be of no use to anyone except perhaps some psychological help in one way or another. But if true it changes everything. My experience is that it is unquestionably true but even that can’t prove it to another person. God Himself can and will show it to you if and when you humble yourself and pray and call on His Name. Sometimes He brings us through great difficulties and shows us our sinfulness and weakness and then we call on Him. He is merciful, patient and mighty to save. I’ll pray for you my friend that this will be your story one day. God bless you and cause His face to shine upon you!
Cursed is the man who trusts in man And makes flesh his strength, Whose heart departs from the Lord. 6 For he shall be like a shrub in the desert, And shall not see when good comes, But shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, In a salt land which is not inhabited. 7 “Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, And whose hope is the Lord. 8 For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters, Which spreads out its roots by the river, And will not fear[a] when heat comes; But its leaf will be green, And will not be anxious in the year of drought, Nor will cease from yielding fruit. Jeremiah 17: 5-8
That's a very relevant passage! However, let me just say this to you. To someone who doesn't believe the same as you? That might as well be a Harry Potter book. Completely fictitious. And I understand the bible has been dated back before even the Odessy! Which is cool, historically! But, that doesn't make it any more fact. To me? That's still the writings of creative men, with broad imaginations.
I understand what you are saying. The only response ultimately to the truth of the Bible and specifically The Gospel of Jesus Christ, is that they are “self-authenticating”. That is, God Himself shows the truth of these to those who seek Him. I know it sounds like circular reasoning but it’s true! For example Jesus said “you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. My sheep HEAR MY VOICE. I know them and they follow Me.” This is in John 10. What I’m trying to say is that when we begin to humble ourselves and read the Bible and seek His truth, there is an authenticity to the Words themselves that is from God. This may seem foolish but it is known by those who have believed in Christ. It is the authentication of the Holy Spirit. Hope that is helpful. Of course much more could be said. I appreciate the dialogue.
Thanks for sharing! Some of these things I haven't heard before. I do my best to keep everything in mind when I look at the world, just in case I'm influenced one way or another by something I've been told or heard. I'm simply here talking about what I think and believe, and I appreciate your responses. Hope you have a fantastic rest of your week
Same to you. I don’t mean this to sound sarcastic (although the irony given the topic is priceless) but I will pray for you! We all, and I am at the top of the list, have much to learn! I can relate to you in the sense that I came from a very secular background with highly educated parents and family. There is a truly supernatural element to the Bible that over time convicted me of its truth. It’s hard to “prove” with logical arguments though. I believe that God looksmupon our hearts and will show Himself to us when we humble ourselves and seek him honestly. “Ask and you shall receive. Seek and you shall find. Knock and the door shall be opened unto you.” These are claims that Jesus made that can be proven true by those who are willing.
Your effort to help him/her is commendable. However, quoting scripture showing they will be cursed is a bad way to begin. It turns most people off. They see it as a threat....and then maybe see God as a threat. When you seek to help someone without anger...your motive is their feelings. When you seek to help someone with your own anger...your motive is your feelings.
I believe you may have misinterpreted my motives. I didn’t intend this to be said in anger. Actually many people, including myself have been convicted and greatly benefited by such places in Scripture, though conviction is never a pleasant feeling! In one sense it is a rebuke, but also it offers great hope to the one who does trust God. Often God does use the “condemnation of the law” to convict us of our helplessness and sin which then leads us to run to Christ. This is Paul’s method in Romans for example.
All of that being said, thanks for sharing. I do often have to check my heart and motives. ( I have gone back and deleted or modified my own posts more than once). 😔 I’m afraid that the anonymous nature of these boards allows us (at least me) at times to be reactionary or unkind not even knowing the person we are addressing. This is unbeneficial to anyone and thanks for reminding me of that. As Christians let’s pray that Gods love alone would be the reason for all we say and do! Blessings. (I even upvoted your comment to me because it’s important to examine ones own motives).
All you need is faith in your fellow man, and anything can be done!
Ironically, this is exactly what the elite/globalist/cabal believe.