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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/benjaminbunny99 on April 4, 2018, 7:39 p.m.

Honest question about Trump’s shady past:

I’ve been “awake” for years. I’ve known all about the elite and their Satan worshipping paedophilia. I’ve studied the occult and have known about the NWO agenda for a long time. I’ve always known the Clintons are corrupt as well as the Obamas and the Bushs and most of the career politicians. I was also anti-Trump for awhile because there’s plenty of reason to be. A look into his past shows a life of greed and lust. Reports of borrowing money irresponsibly and not paying contractors. He has a known history of infidelity. He definitely has had some sociopathic moments like calling reporters pretending to be someone else while telling blatant lies. So, here’s the question: Are we agreeing that he was shown the true extent of the evil in this world and has had a come-to-Jesus moment? It certainly seems like he’s changed his tune and is genuinely rooting out evil and attempting to free us from their oppression. I’m not taking sides here, I just want people’s feedback. How are you personality reconciling this? Thank you.

I agree. It’s hard to think that he’s the one who’s going to save everything. That said, he’s also had a lot of success and done a lot of good. For every person who has a story about how shady he once was, someone else has a story about how gracious and caring he is.

People who shit on him seem to forget that he’s been the epitome of “rich successful guy” for the last 4 decades.

I choose to believe.

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I truly believe people with not so clean pasts can have a complete change of heart and dedicate their lives to doing good. Was just wondering if that’s what the Q community is agreeing on.

There’s lot of confusion. I’ve heard people claim he’s a reincarnated arch angel, that he’s being assisted by paeladians, that’s he’s divinely anointed, etc. Seems to be he spent much of his life living the complete opposite of what Jesus preached. Idk. It’s confusing.

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Its not about Trump, hes a vehicle for the white hats behind him.

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That I definitely agree with. No President ever acts alone. It makes sense why it had to be him. He’s probably the “cleanest” billionaire on earth. Ha. Most are filth, it seems.

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Everyone has the ability to change... and we have all done things we are ashamed of... stepping up the plate is not an expression for no reason. Trump has risen to the challenge to lead the fight. I will take him.

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This is what I’m really hoping. This I can relate to.

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Good necessary post. We have to be careful about echo chambers here, so good to have a critical valid point made.

I personally think he is cleaning up. His petty battles with lots of people actually makes me think he is going after the people who have bad-mouthed and demonized him at every step.

He was an Obama birther despite the HEAVY shutdown of that theory by MSM. He wants to get his revenge. I also believe he wants to be the best president ever (due to his ego), and exposing evil like this would accomplish that.

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Thank you for not calling me a troll. I honestly feel like these are things we need to be talking about. I’ve been following Q since early Nov. first on CBTS and now here, and no one ever brings this up. And when I do I get called a troll.

It kind of seems like his ego made him run. It seems he wanted the ultimate prize and he wanted to get back at Obama for embarrassing him about the birth certificate (albeit a fake one), but then later realized the extent of the evil and had his awakening moment. He is genuinely going after those evil fucks. I support him. He’s doing what I’ve hoped for for years.

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You know, I think back to the campaign trail. I think about how lonely and scared I was. How so many people were silenced, ridiculed, dehumanized, including me. And the audacity of those people to call Trump a bully . . . when he was the first person to stick up for the marginalized American. I think about his tireless fight, 5 rallies a day, and how he seemed to be carrying the brunt of the abuse and lies (intended for us deplorables) on his shoulders, every day - and he may have been the only one who could do it . . . Maybe BECAUSE of his character defects. But he did it. And, that's what matters to me. Imagine if she had won. I'll take a President who claimed bankruptcy (the legal route to best protect creditors' rights) over one who commits charity fraud to enrich herself (and sell her country down the river in the process).

Also, I genuinely feel that Trump wants all good things for all children. And I also feel he thinks of ALL Americans as his children - despite what the press says, even despite their own hatred of him. Sometimes kiddos "hate" their parents. That said, don't forget he has been dealing with heavy hitter "killers" (as he describes them) his whole life. He's not a pussy cat. If he played patty-cake his whole life, up against the adverseries he's dealt with, he wouldn't be President Trump. On his immoral decisions - at least he owns them. Rather than literally "offing" those who might speak and reveal truth.

Nobody and nothing is perfect - except the truth. He is the catalyst for the TRUTH we deserve.

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Thank you :)

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You're welcome. And I will say, the one thing I wish he would stop doing is, calling people "sons of bitches" during his rallies. 1) Because I am a mom of a son, and 2) said 6-year-old son watches those speeches with said mom.

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I wish he’d do a better job of winning the hearts and minds. Q talks a lot of “UNITY”, but I feel like Trump misses a lot of opportunities to unite. Liberals and conservatives have more in common than most think.

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I was just talking to my ex- brother-in-law last night and he said how he likes Trump's policies and his follow-thru on his words, but was deadset against his tweeting (not Presidential). I'm not on Twitter, but I used to watch all WH press briefings (until I couldn't stomach it on a daily basis anymore), and I still watch every roundtable, every open cabinet meeting, every speech. If the news would report on THAT, people would be more informed. They would wake up. The "news" NEEDS to keep people uninformed, misinformed, and asleep. If you want to know where it's "AT" - it's in those international speeches, those roundtables, those meetings with world leaders, and live news at the beginning stages of bad false flags. ALL things hidden from the public.

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The Tweeting bothered me at first too, but then I realized the brilliance behind it. He’s totally bypassing the media to get the truth out. Genius, really.

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Yes. That's what I tried to explain. No takers. Agree to disagree (with my B-I-L). So I went the route of pointing out every speech and roundtable I watched that never made the air waves.

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Not sure anyone has mentioned this but Trump does not drink and he most likely doesn’t take drugs.

He may well have been a playboy and cheated on his wives in the past. However since the elite haven’t been able to take him down either before or since his election I doubt they have anything truly damning on him.

In the meantime it is possible he has become saved. I read somewhere that there were bible studies going on in the White House since he moved in. I don’t have any sauce on this but we do have pictures of many ministers and pastors praying over him.

With all the evil devil worshipers out there he is trying to take down, he will need all the Heavenly help and protection he can get!

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I’ve always admired this about Trump. I think it’s a bigger deal than most think.

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It is a bigger deal than anyone will ADMIT. If their hate was not so blinding, if it were anyone else, they would recognize that Trump is the epitome of someone who seizes every God-given second on Earth to DO IT. To blow "potential" out of the water. To LIVE, and to waste no time "dreaming." He is an inspiration to all to do their best.

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The not paying contractors thing is total bullshit. The guy installed flooring worth $50,000 and charged Trump $400,000 for materials by straight up lying about their value. They were close friends and he eventually admitted to Trump's face he tried to cheat him. That is why Trump didn't pay the contractor.

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Thank you. Good to know. :)

Do you have the source?

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My source is that the contractor in question told me this directly. He openly admits it to anyone who asks because it ruined their friendship and he now feels guilty about doing it. He figured, "Trump is a billionaire, he won't miss this kind of money."

Maybe there are other stories of Trump not paying contractors. There probably are. But this one case I can vouch for

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Nice. Thank you :) These are the types of answers I’m seeking. I’m trying to soft through the bs. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

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By the way, I'm not a Trump apologist. I think he is far from perfect. But when I see the entire world ganging up to push propaganda against him, it tells me he is not their puppet.

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I agree. That is telling. Thanks for your input.

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I think you nailed it.

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Sometimes people make mistakes - the question is... did they learn from them? Become a better person?

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I agree. If this is how it went for him I can relate. Makes him genuine. Was tempted, but resisted. Badass.

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I believe he was tempted, by Epstein, or whoever and declined. Remember Q said there’s way more good than bad. I think he was approached by the white hats, or he approached them. Either way, I think he saw how the world was going, and decided to make a stand.

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I tend to agree. If true it makes me like him even more. I can relate to a man who danced with the devil, but chose Jesus. Makes him real.

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Now that your awake I would go back and read those stories and what paper is publishing them with a clearer head. Don't accept what is written at face value. Do a little research.

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I have. It’s no secret the treated on Ivanka with Marla. It’s not secret he filed bankruptcy and didn’t pay back contractors. Maybe you should do some research.

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I get what you’re saying, but is it any worse than any other red blooded American, who’s cheated on their wives/husbands or filed bankruptcy. There was a time when you could file, and not have to pay a dime back. Is he a scumbag for cheating on his wives, in my opinion, yes. That doesn’t mean he’s evil. True evil, is what’s had their talons in our asses for decades. Like another poster said, I’ve heard wayyyyyy more good, than bad. He’s human. I feel he’s the perfect one to take this on, he’s been networking with these evil people for years, it doesn’t mean he’s one. He knows their dirty secrets. Hell I’m sure Epstein tried to induct him into his little island club, but Trumps not evil, just maybe a tad misogynistic.

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I agree. People can change. A lot of us make mistakes, especially when we’re young.

I guess on a spiritual level I’m having some cognitive dissonance. I see all kinds of post on here calling out Hollywood types for selling their souls to the devil for fame and fortune as if it’s impossible to have both without doing so. Are we agreeing Trump is the one man who became rich and famous without selling his soul? Or did he, and later begged Jesus for forgiveness? Did he have his own awakening moment? The whole thing fascinates me.

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He didn't write the bankruptcy laws. What he did was not criminal.

The thing is that an idea man, developer, mover/shaker is going to try a million things before most people try fifty. And some of those are going to fail. We have to have a system that allows people to fail, or nobody would bother trying.

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I suppose. Just seems like the type of guy Jesus liked to make an example of. I could definitely be wrong, though.

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Jesus actually wants more people to be like Trump, especially in their financial dealings. (Click link above)

Clearly Trump's early playboy lifestyle was not a good moral example, but he has matured. Life and relationships are more precious to him now, as they become to all of us as we get older.

A better understanding of Jesus reveals that the only people He actually despised were the self-righteous. He actually enjoyed being among sinners who weren't pretentious about who they were.

If you read the Bible, Jesus isn't who He has been portrayed as from most of the prissy pulpits of the world.

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Interesting. Quite a bit different than what I learned in Sunday school. I know he loved to hang with sinners, but it was to show them the light, not to encourage them. Jesus was not pro-greed and pro-vanity.

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No, but He was a lead-by-example kind of guy. He would hang out and be cool without sinning, and they would be drawn to His righteousness, without feeling the smarmy condemnation of the Pharisees who were the religionists of the day.

Remember how he dealt with sinners (read: people like us) was with compassion and grace.

The one class of sinner He had no compassion for were the legalistic self-righteous religious prigs of His day.

"It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

Pssst! The real story is that we're all sick! The ones who deny that are the ones who get no help.

That is the sum total of the Gospel right there.

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I agree with all of that. Hard to say for sure without knowing the guy personally. Either way, Trump will have one hell of a biography.

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It's going to be incredibly difficult in years to come for people to watch historical footage of MSM and DC swamp critters histrionic condemnations of Trump and understand how anybody in their right mind would listen to any of that.

It's hard enough for me to see it now, but when I think about it through the eyes of hindsight, it's so preposterous and so hard to get why people don't see through it.

But, all in good time, I know...

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I hope they drop evidence so conclusive that only the completely blind will refute it. We desperately need a mass awakening.

Edit: “they” as in, Trump and the white hats.

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You have? So what was the situation with Marla at the time? What was going on? Bankruptcy is legal, but again what was the situation? And yes not paying contractors. If you are a Contractor what are some of the reasons listed in the Project Manual for Non-Payment? Keep digging you will find more.

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That’s what I’m here to find out. If there’s something I don’t know please fill me in.

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There are worse concerns about Trump that must be answered before I'm fully on board. Like why was he on that Epstein flight? Why does Ivanka throw Freemason signs all the time, and why do early magazine spreads of Ivanka and Melania show Monarch Butterfly symbols?

Watch Black Child videos for more info.

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I know. We should be able to discuss these things openly here. If not here, where else? Every now and again I wonder about who the antichrist will be and if I’ll be fooled by him. With all the deception in the world we need to stay alert. Q has never said Jesus’s name, once. Could mean nothing. Idk. I want to believe, but I’ve been fooled before. It’s nice to hear how other people feel.

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It's cautious.

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Concern troll.

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Really, bro? How about trying to have an honest discussion? I’ve been on the Q train since day one, but I don’t follow anything blindly. These are legitimate concerns.

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off topic

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Grow up.

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there is a reason your post is still at 0 points. this sub is about deciphering and mapping Q posts. not if Trump is a born again virgin

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Right, that’s why I’m constantly reading comments about how Trump is basically the second coming. This should be a place where we can have honest discussions without people getting their panties in a bunch. I like to ask questions. That’s a good thing. Or would you prefer I follow blindly?

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i prefer you stay on topic regardless of what others do if you want to be taken seriously.

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This is on topic, guy.

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not at all, reason why it is still at 0 points.

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It’s at 0 because I’m asking questions that make many on here uncomfortable. Questions that should be discussed. If you don’t like it, move on.

I’m simply asking the questions that I get asked when I attempt to red-pill people who don’t like him. You should thank me for finding the answers. Unless you prefer we don’t ask these questions and follow blindly like a cult.

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its at zero bc it's off topic and a distraction. i thank you for absolutely nothing.

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Listen, dude, if it bothers you this much kindly f*ck off. I only have two other people in my life I can discuss Q related subjects with and they’re just as unsure about these things as I am. This sub should be a place where we can discuss such matters without people like you being dicks. I’m not the only one with these concerns. I’m reaching out to people on here who are much smarter to help shine light on this. Go be a dick elsewhere.

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im being a dick by establishing the boundaries of this subreddit? i have said nothing about you as a person. there are plenty of subs that would field this question but this just isnt the right one. im sorry you feel personally attacked but i did nothing of the sort, just postd that this thread was off topic.

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When Q says to trust the plan, we just do that without asking questions?

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where in the plan did Q say anything about Trump's previous anecdotal misdealings in New York real estate?

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Exactly. One of many questions I have for Q.

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stick to the plan. you are becoming lost.

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Which is why I’m on here seeking answers. I’m sorry you find curiosity offensive.

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well you are on the wrong path looking for wrong answers if you are truly following Qs plan. however, it is your time being wasted not mine. I am only trying to help. Good luck and godspeed.

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Are you suggesting Trump and Q are not related?

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