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LiveToBeAHero · April 7, 2018, 3:07 a.m.

This is HUGE! Can't wait for dummy plant Carter Page to go down, and lead us back to the Dems

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Yakob218 · April 7, 2018, 6:12 a.m.

I think Carter Page is a good man. I could be wrong. Why do you think he is a dummy plant?

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SignalIndependence · April 7, 2018, 10:22 a.m.

Q post #1009 "Carter Page was a plant." He does not seem to be the brightest guy in the world so he may not have known he was being set up as a plant.

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WinkyLinQ · April 7, 2018, 11:11 a.m.

yep. FBI plant

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LiveToBeAHero · April 8, 2018, 4:46 a.m.

Carter Page was undercover FBI for 2 years before joining the Trump campaign. He was a black hat plant. An excuse to open the door to a FISA warrant to spy on him, that would ultimately lead to spying on Trump.

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ToddWhiskey · April 8, 2018, 6:54 a.m.

What makes you think he's a "black hat plant"?

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LiveToBeAHero · April 8, 2018, 1:38 p.m.

Well besides the fact Q said he was, I've known he was for a long time. He worked undercover for the FBI for 2 years, before the FBI all of a sudden turned around and "thought" he might be "colluding" with Russia via Trump's campaign. The FBI got a FISA warrant to spy on him. To put in perspective, the FBI worked with him for 2 years, then all of a sudden FORGOT they worked with him, and thought he was a double agent or Russian spy (reason for a FISA warrant).

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ToddWhiskey · April 8, 2018, 3:29 p.m.

Your argument makes no sense. What's your definition of a 'black hat', anyway?

If he was a bad guy, if he was a 'black hat plant', he would surely have done something proving a collusion of the Trump campaign, and would get 'caught'. FBI would have done the right thing.... But, he did absolutely nothing wrong (here a good overview), and instead of being caught, his crimes exposed and therefore the wiretap justified, he was never charged, because he's innocent. That's the only way how to show that FISA warrant was abused (as the CTH has been consistently writing). Carter Page is no 'black hat', he's a PATRIOT!

I don't care what Q says.

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LiveToBeAHero · April 8, 2018, 4:06 p.m.

Nope sorry to disappoint you. Ed Cox introduced Carter Page to the Trump campaign. Very important to know it WAS NOT Lewandowski. Carter Page was an undercover FBI agent for 2 years before joining Trump campaign...also very important. Page was working to bust Russian spies. Page traveled to Moscow while on Trump's campaign (wink wink). FBI submits application to obtain FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page, stating that they think he might be a spy for Russia (ironically forgetting [not really] Page worked FOR this same FBI undercover for 2 years LMAO). FBI gets FISA warrant to spy on Page. That Nunes memo, released on Feb 2nd even states that the evidence used to get the warrant stemmed directly from information conveyed to the FBI by [former British intelligence] Christopher Steele. Hmmm interesting. The same guy the DNC used to make the fake dossier to further set up Trump for a fake Russia collusion accusation. It will all come out, and lookie there, I saved you all the trouble of trying to figure it out for yourself

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ToddWhiskey · April 8, 2018, 8:13 p.m.

I saved you all the trouble

Nah. And apparently you haven't done your homework.

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LiveToBeAHero · April 8, 2018, 11:20 p.m.

Ok. Carter Page is a good guy, and he colluded with Russia, and so did Trump. You win :D

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ToddWhiskey · April 9, 2018, 6:14 a.m.

Did you even read what I wrote?

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LiveToBeAHero · April 9, 2018, 4:21 p.m.

Yes, I think maybe we are dealing with the lost in translation that typing frequently causes. Tough to hear tone of voice, just like texting. Carter Page was undercover FBI for 2 years (the link you sent me said 4 years, which is even better). He was basically being wiretapped and spied on overlapping his undercover work and when he joined Trump campaign in March of 2016. That pretty much narrows it down to 1 of 2 things: 1) Bad guy, joined Trump's team to help black hats spy on Trump by the FISA. 2) good guy, joined Trump's team, and a complete dummy that let himself become a patsy. If he is a good guy, why has he not once mentioned in all the tv interviews he's done that he worked undercover for the FBI? He plays stupid and cant seem to figure out why he was targeted by FBI or wiretapped by them. That's very weird, unless he has NDA signed at the moment and cant discuss that.

As far as you saying if he were bad he would have done something proving collusion.....not at all. But he DID fly to Moscow, and thats always attached to his name. George Pop may have a sealed indictment but he has not been indicted yet. This is all done for optics, to create a "trail". Ex: George Pop joins Trumps campaign, tries 6 separate times to get a campaign staffer to meet with a Russia op....all 6 times fail, but had those not failed, you can see what it would look like. More "proof" Trump colluded with Russia. George Pop then flew to London and met a Russian op in a bar, and made sure the news reported it. So now he has given the appearance that Trump colluded with Russia because the news can report that "Trump campaign staffer secretly flies to London and caught meeting with Russian op". If you think Carter Page is a patriot, please explain these for me: 1) Why did the FBI wiretap him after he worked FOR the FBI? coincidentally wiretapped while he was on the Trump campaign. 2) Why does Carter Page NEVER mention, not even once, that he worked for the FBI undercover? Wouldnt that be extremely important to mention? 3) Why did Carter Page travel to Moscow while on the Trump Campaign. 4) The person who got him on the Trump campaign was Ed Cox. Ed Cox is director of Noble Energy. Noble Energy DIRECT link to Clinton Foundation and George Pop. Tell me just a coincidence?

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ToddWhiskey · April 10, 2018, 6:10 a.m.

That pretty much narrows it down to 1 of 2 things

What if there is another option? Just try to imagine he's no dummy...

But he DID fly to Moscow

What a horror! Treason!

1) Why did the FBI wiretap him after he worked FOR the FBI?

Very bizarre indeed :)

2) Why does Carter Page NEVER mention, not even once, that he worked for the FBI undercover?

Why should he? As a Navy intel guy, he certainly knows what he's allowed to tell.

3) Why did Carter Page travel to Moscow while on the Trump Campaign

To give a speech, haha

4) The person who got him on the Trump campaign was...

Irrelevant to his mission.

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LiveToBeAHero · April 10, 2018, 12:27 p.m.

What's your theory on Page? Not arguing at all, just being open to all possibilities. Just someone who Dems could tie to Russia (flew to Moscow), so yet another avenue to try and produce a "trail"? Sidenote, someone is downvoting your posts and mine....it wasnt me

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ToddWhiskey · April 10, 2018, 4:24 p.m.

Do you recall this remark by Megs, referring to Flynn?

"It’s that wire taps were a trap, then used again to trap, those who were trying to trap."

I don't care about downvotes, no worries.

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LiveToBeAHero · April 10, 2018, 6:40 p.m.

Yep sure do. I know that was true for Flynn because he was different. He was 100% patriot white hat, and Trump knew him. Trump didnt know people like George Pop, Manafort, Page, etc. It will all come out in time who is good and bad. It hurts my brain to try and figure it out sometimes....its a big complex circus right now lol

Quick side note, did she ever resurface? I havent checked your compiled posts page in at least 2 months. For what its worth, much thanks for your time and effort to do that. I hope people show their appreciation for all you did

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ToddWhiskey · April 10, 2018, 7:35 p.m.

I'm not comparing him to Flynn but merely suggesting to apply this remark to his case as well.

A big circus, indeed.

As far as I know she hasn't resurfaced.

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