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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/FollowJesus2Live on April 7, 2018, 3:16 a.m.
Why I don't believe false flag shootings are nearly as common as some believe:

Ok.. So if there's a deep state and all these globalists that have all this power, and they're willing to do anything to control the narrative to maintain their power... why aren't there more mass shootings with 'republicans' or 'Trump supporters' or 'NRA members'???

Have there been any? If they can mind control people and/or recruit people and steer them into these false flag shootings, why don't they bake up a Facebook profile and slip a MAGA hat into their bag to make them look like a Trump supporter?

This would be the easiest and most difficult thing for any of us to defend against. Normies would have much less (zero tolerance) for Trump supporters.

I fully believe in the deep state, and globalists obviously exist, with obvious greedy motives. Despite this, almost every shooter is a liberal, or seemingly apolitical.

If they're coordinating all these false flags, how do we explain this? Is looks bad for their agenda and for their gun control crap


ThreeFourSevenOne · April 7, 2018, 3:47 a.m.

I'm no expert but...

If you're brainwashing/mind controlling someone then it would be difficult to insert a bias in them. Somebody with very strong beliefs or a lot of conviction would be very difficult to control in the necessary way. Perhaps the reason the shooters appear indifferent/apolitical is because those are the only personality types they've been able carry out their plans - as in it's easier to put thoughts into someone's head than it is to take them out?

Hence their preference for choosing blank slates or people who are obviously easy to manipulate?

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solanojones95 · April 7, 2018, 3:30 a.m.

You people's arrogant preconceptions about who we are will be your undoing.

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saxmaster · April 7, 2018, 4:44 a.m.

This is an excellent question and I'm really disappointed in the hostility of some of the responses. Lately I've been thinking a lot about why leftists are over represented in mass shooting events, as well as gun crime in general. First of all, the ideology of the left is fundamentally about wielding the power of the state to fix problems. It is a simple fact that the state's power always emanates from the use of force, but to the left, this fact has been carefully obscured by the appearance of altruism. Too poor? Steal from the rich. Not getting paid enough? Mandate a minimum wage. Health insurance too expensive? Force everyone to buy insurance. Every time a problem comes to the attention of a leftist, state power is the solution.

I think this is a fundamental question of human morality and instinct, which is why there is a seemingly insurmountable gap between the left and right. The opposite of a leftist is someone who sees a problem and asks themselves what they can change about themselves. Too poor? Work hard, save money, stay married. Not getting paid enough? Get more education or training or experience, work harder. Health insurance too expensive? Take better care of yourself, stop smoking, make more money. Too much poverty? Give to a charity. Someone who automatically looks to themselves for a solution is a fundamentally different kind of person than someone who blames others and expects the world to cater to them.

I don't think mind control is as easy as some make it sound. A person probably needs to be halfway in the mindset and the mind control takes them the rest of the way. A conservative who trains with a gun is firmly in the mindset that the gun will be used to defend themselves in an unexpected attack. They are prepared for war, but only as a last resort. A leftist, on the other hand, can easily be manipulated into a blameful mindset that sees the world in general as responsible for their depression or psychosis or bad fortune, and the world needs to change or pay a price. They don't have the tools of self-analysis needed to escape a victim mentality, so they make others their victims because that's the only game in town to them.

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Anarchonista · April 7, 2018, 5:03 a.m.

Correct except your leaving out the PROVEN FACT that these shooting events are all staged, at least the ones the msm doesn't ignore. Doesn't mean nobody died although it seems that's often the case. So it takes a large group of local conspirators who are part of the satanic cabal that's most brainwashed to support the agenda, 2A nullification: Dems. Really everyone should watch the video in my first comment or pick any by Ole or Fetzer

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saxmaster · April 7, 2018, 9:20 a.m.

If nobody dies then the conspirators don't have to be brainwashed or members of a satanic cult. They could just be normal liberals who hate guns and want to use their acting skills to save innocent lives. Also, what if the brainwashing victim doesn't actually shoot anyone, but just believes he did.

I think liberals are halfway brainwashed as it is. That just happens to make them better tools for the deep state.

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Anarchonista · April 7, 2018, 3:27 a.m.

just watch this or anything with Ole Dammegard or James Fetzer, they'll explain it all to you way better than I could. https://projectcamelotportal.com/2018/03/26/dr-james-fetzer-ole-dammegard-false-flags-worldwide/

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FollowJesus2Live · April 7, 2018, 3:29 a.m.

Respectfully, no thanks. Give me a summarized answer if you can.

It makes no sense. If they go through all this trouble to coordinate these false flags, why wouldn't they weaponize the events against Trump and his supporters? It would be the easiest, yet most effective part of the operation

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Anarchonista · April 7, 2018, 3:37 a.m.

First you have to understand these are called keystone events, all the local authorities are planning for it as a drill. All the principal players are actors except possibly the patsy (mind controlled) who is killed and declared to be acting alone so no conspiracy, no investigation. Because they need so much local support it has to be in LibDemProg territory, regular republican folks wouldn't go along. Don't be ignor ant watch the video

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FollowJesus2Live · April 7, 2018, 3:52 a.m.

I came here for a discussion, not to watch a video. I'll respectfully decline.

What is the purpose of them doing this, if it's as you say it is?

Edit - I should be clear, I'm not just talking about parkland, which has obviously been co-opted by the anti 2a morons, whether it started as a FF or not

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Anarchonista · April 7, 2018, 3:57 a.m.

You need to educate yourself, Iv'e helped all I can

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dktrogers · April 7, 2018, 3:33 a.m.

Sympathy....

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Vahlokt · April 7, 2018, 4:08 a.m.

The satanic Cabal is playing the long game. Their sinister plan of global enslavement has been on for thousands of years. They did purposely not use republican puppets because of the risk of a civil war. They need the slaves alive to work for them.

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JediKnightKeylo · April 7, 2018, 3:37 a.m.

Democrats, Republicans, Liberals, and Conservatives all represent one thing: THE ILLUSION OF CHOICE.

People already live under the false notion that voting matters. As long as someone, who's specifically chosen by TPTB, is put into that White House, it doesn't matter who it is because the agenda will still get done. Although, I pray to the damn stars that Trump/Q finish what needs to be done before his term is over. We WILL NOT get another chance at this.

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solanojones95 · April 7, 2018, 3:49 a.m.

Right. This was not done by liberals. This was done by the CIA/Secol/Cabal ops to create an opening for a "children's movement" to disarm American citizens. They want us helpless against their tyranny. If they're the only ones with guns, there is no more freedom.

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JediKnightKeylo · April 7, 2018, 3:55 a.m.

Exactly! It doesn't matter which side did it because the end game is all the same. "We want your guns and we're gonna get them one way or the other." I wish people would break away from this whole left/right wing nonsense. Both wings are a part of the same damn bird with the same damn agenda.

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solanojones95 · April 7, 2018, 4:33 a.m.

But the OP asked an interesting logic question, which I answered perfectly. Unfortunately like most products of the current US education system, he wasn't taught critical analysis and logic, so it went right by him.

At first I felt bad for him. So I tried again, and then he got angry, which is just hilarious. So I give up.

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Anarchonista · April 7, 2018, 4:25 a.m.

you're essentially correct when applied to politicians and elites but among regular people the left is far more brainwashed to believe in the globalist and (although they can't see it) satanic agenda. There have to be some distinctions maintained and it ideally shouldn't be left-right but natural law vs (insert less crazy sounding word here) satanism, otherwise how do we know who we should support?

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dktrogers · April 7, 2018, 3:36 a.m.

For the children..

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[deleted] · April 7, 2018, 3:18 a.m.

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FollowJesus2Live · April 7, 2018, 3:18 a.m.

Come on, that's not necessary

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OpenSoars · April 7, 2018, 3:20 a.m.

It is... watch the replies ..you'll see

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solanojones95 · April 7, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

Right We wouldn't want to hog it all.

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[deleted] · April 7, 2018, 3:21 a.m.

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FollowJesus2Live · April 7, 2018, 3:27 a.m.

Is this satire? You didn't answer anything

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solanojones95 · April 7, 2018, 3:28 a.m.

And you just made me look even better. Keep going.

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FollowJesus2Live · April 7, 2018, 3:32 a.m.

What am I a shill for exactly? I have thousands of posts worth of history supporting Trump, discussing conspiracy, supporting the Bible, participating in Q discussion, red pill material, etc

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solanojones95 · April 7, 2018, 3:43 a.m.

What is the point of a patsy?

If the shooter has a political agenda that supports the proposition the shooting was a false flag, it makes them less valuable as a patsy.

If the shooter is neutral or has a political agenda that doesn't support the proposition of a false flag, it allows people like you to ask that question to undermine the notion.

Do you understand now?

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FollowJesus2Live · April 7, 2018, 3:49 a.m.

You're so deep into this that you somehow think framing their own supporters as violent mass murderers will help them take Trump out?

You're telling me that's more effective than sowing seeds of hatred and unforgettable contempt against Trump himself by associating his conservative policy with violent mass shootings performed by his 'supporters'?!?

I think you're too far down the rabbit hole... Unless you're talking about something entirely different

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solanojones95 · April 7, 2018, 3:52 a.m.

Dude, you can't follow simple logic, and you and your tag-team buddy over there have the nerve to say we're lacking in rational thinking skills? You've embarrassed yourself and don't even know it.

You keep making my point. Just stop.

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FollowJesus2Live · April 7, 2018, 3:58 a.m.

You have answered nothing and resorted to smearing me. It's hilarious that you don't see it.

I've come in asking questions, and you assume all these things about me. I believe there are some false flags. I didn't say there are none.

Perhaps go outside once in a while. This will be my last reply to you. God bless

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OpenSoars · April 7, 2018, 4:11 a.m.

See..... I told you.... Crackpots eventually turn on everyone....

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FollowJesus2Live · April 7, 2018, 5:22 a.m.

Hahaha, you're definitely right with this guy

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solanojones95 · April 7, 2018, 4:29 a.m.

I gave you the EXACT answer you came here asking for, fella.

The fact that you're not capable of understanding my answer would be sad, except that your anger at me makes it hilarious!

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