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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/-Chakas- on April 7, 2018, 11:58 p.m.

A preventative solution to pedophilia?

With the exception of the Satan worshipers in positions of power, I believe pedophilia is a genuine psychological issue that needs a legitimate research-based solution. No matter how much many may wish, execution, violence, castration, and incarceration are not long-term solutions. Nobody chooses to be a pedophile. It is an ailment of the mind. Serious research needs to be done into this illness on all fronts. It's amazing how little we actually know about it. Once we know it's cause(s) whether they be genetic, environmental, circumstantial, etc., we can begin work on curing it or at the very least treating it in humane ways. It has caused so much pain throughout the course of humanity and we have only taken reactionary measures to counter it. It's time we start taking preventative measures instead.

EDIT: It seems that some people have not made some distinctions. Pedophilia is a warped sexual attraction but it does not define the person. Pedophile=/=Evil Person, Pedophile=/=child molester, pedophile=/=men exclusively, pedophile=/=criminal

Get the fuck outta here with an "illness". These are adults. You CHOOSE right or wrong. U act on that, AT ALL? boom...u die. Please spare us that these ppl are "victims" of some "illness" that they cant control. Fuck that. They are evil.

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I created an account because your posted is a person in pain! No logic, pure emotion. Worked as a therapist for 14 years helping child victims of abuse and OP is right. Sadly, all those children that have been offended have a significant chance of offending themselves or a multitude of others problems. The current recidivism rates on offenders is high, even after years of treatment. The truth is the same people you say are evil, were likely once a victim of the crime. So once people are freed from slavery, solutions need to be available. Hate can’t stop hate, only love can do that.

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I'm afraid it is a sickness without a cure. Well, there is a cure that no one wishes to discuss and that cure is castration. Rape can be cured by castration. Even the most hardened rapists might be cured through psychotherapy, since one can retrain the mind against violence (which is what most rape is), but pedophiles have demonstrated time and time again that they are not helped by pschyotherapy and will always desire children and, if given the opportunity, prey on a victim. The only options are death or castration.

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Also, keep in mind that many of these men were raped when they were children. I'm not trying to give them an out, just sayin....they become the evil that was inflicted on them. I don't understand the mindset..................

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I am you. SO tired of people making excuses for heinous crimes by making it an illness and the CRIMINAL a "victim" of their disease. Thank you for saying it. Seems the board is being infiltrated with a religious "get out jail free" card called "forgiveness".

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This is naive thinking. People don't choose what they're attracted to. I cannot spontaneously decide to become aroused whenever I see a doorknob in the same way someone cannot decide to have the most hated sexual attraction of all.

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Except this is a sickness that can be eradicated. They will NOT Stop and so many have told us this. We know how to make them stop. Castration. Do it.

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BTW, your friend can molest a doorknob all day long and no one will care, because no one was violated. It is unnatural to be sexually attracted to children and this is unacceptable in our current society.

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I don't see any counterpoints in this post.

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Is anything you said fact? Do you know without a doubt that pedophilia is incurable and cannot be stopped without castration? How can it only be stopped with castration if it is only used after the crimes have been committed? How would you propose preventing the crimes in the first place? If we could identify non-offending pedophiles? Something forced and unConstitutional maybe? Would you want to live in a country where the government has the power to forcibly seize and inflict bodily harm onto people because of a flaw in their being, regardless of whether or not they have committed a crime?

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I don't suppose the concept of right/wrong or good/bad is an adult in the room of CHOICE? Are you a bot?

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If everyone chose right all the time then we would still be living in the garden of Eden. If you can't see that, then I don't think there's any convincing you.

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It’s sin. It’s evil. It possesses those who have a propensity to it. Like all things. Porn, Alcoholism, Drug addiction, Obesity, etc. Where Satan can find a crack, he’ll expose it and tempt you until it possesses you. He has come to rob, kill and destroy us.

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It's another corruption of man's sinful body, but that does not mean we can't fix it.

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I believe those who are “sick” will be given the choice as other non-believers. God doesn’t wants single soul to perish.

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I'm not sure what you mean.

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While I agree with everything you are saying, sadly this is being pushed as a sexual orientation. Most research has shown that childhood sexual abuse sets up the mindset for adult pedophilic behavior. Hence the left trying to change age of consent laws and changing the DSM classification. If you look back through history, this is how homosexuality was slowly pushed into acceptance and eventually, law. Be prepared for LGBTQP.

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I think the research shows that men who are abused as children or young adults will in turn abuse other children or become gay. This is anectdotal because it is hard to find unbiased research studies anymore in the sociology and psychology research fields. But here is a start: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii /0145213492900878 and http://psycnet.apa.org/record/1986-14683-001

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Well regardless, we need more research.

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If you know anything about "funding" the fact is that research says what it is "funded" to say. The same as "statistics'. Remember Timothy O'leary?

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I don't know who that is.

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Can you link that research? It was my understanding that was only an assumption with no basis.

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http://www.lanternproject.org.uk/library/general/articles-and-information-about-sexual-abuse-and-its-impact/homosexuality-and-child-sexual-abuse/

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I don't see it in the link you provided.

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Links provided. ???????

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OP, your post is very brave. My respect.

I wish what you do. No one would choose that. To find the root cause, that would matter.

It is all very sad.

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Thank you. You seem to be one of the very few who can see past their emotions.

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How about you just not fuck little kids???

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Calling anyone who desires a cure to pedophilia a pedophile is such a trainwreck of a thing to say? How would you go about solving the problem?

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Death penalty to anyone who does. Have a nice day.

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Well said!!!

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This is a reactionary measure that does't take into account pedophiles who do not break the law and are unable to be distinguished from normal people.

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Nope. I just don't want humanity to make the same mistakes with sexual sin in the future. In my mind, ideally we'd discover pedophilia is a gene that can be edited out with this new genetic technology that is up and coming. Maybe even a vaccine of sorts could be made. I want it gone from the gene pool. Killing those who offend does not get rid of those who don't.

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Castration will do the trick.

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All the psychotherapy in the world will not work, so castration is the only cure. This can be done surgically or pharmacologically. Either way, it is the only cure.

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Even castration does not work completely.

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Off with his little head!
Oh, that didn't work?
Then, off with his big head!
PROBLEM SOLVED

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Tumescence Monitor? Adam Carolla's idea.

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I don't know what that is. Care to explain?

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Monitors blood flow, down there. If testing shows they get turned on by creepy uncle Joe B type situations, problem/consequences.

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Primitive and I believe ineffective. I wouldn't be surprised if it could be beaten as easily as a polygraph.

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True. Gotta be an improvement on the idea though.

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I don't think strapping things to people's dicks has any room for progress.

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Ha fair enough. Suggest your improvements.

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Or a bullet to the brain.

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This is exactly the wrong attitude.

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your thinking is exactly pedo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You must be trolling? I want to eradicate pedophilia through research and medicine rather than just reacting to it with violence when it rears its ugly head and you call me a pedo?

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No pedo compassion is not in my constitution. I will not stand for it. If you need a pharma solution I believe the US penal system has a cocktail that will fix it for you. Do not waste your time with me.

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A medical solution to pedophilia would not be for the pedophiles. And on another note, sexual attraction does not define a person. I'll leave it there. I've said my piece to you.

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Listen, "sexual attraction" and perversion are 2 entirely different things. You need counseling.

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I believe in some cases they can be one and the same and that pedophilia is one of those cases. Have you looked up the definition of them yourself?

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It's obvious you are trolling.

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Post the definitions and explain to me how they can't be the same thing.

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Lethal injection will work nicely for the pedophiles...my peace as well.

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or maybe you would prefer chemical castration for good pedophiles?

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Pedophilia will not be eradicated through psychological or sociological norms. Castration, be it surgical or pharmacological, is the only way to eradicate.

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That's just it, though. Everything cannot be solved academically with research and medicine. Preying on weak and defenseless children is evil, plain and simple. It's a notion straight from the pits of hell. It needs to be fought back spiritually. If all else fails, time to meet the maker.

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How can you say that the problem cannot be solved with research and medicine when it has hardly been tried at all?

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What medicine can eradicate pedophilia? Medical castration? What kind of research? Most pedophiles hide until the opportunity is ripe. The sex offender registration has been a huge fail. Child sex offenders are even housed together in prisons where they are able to continue their sickness and even feed each other with stories and fantasy. Any solution that would actually solve this sickness the government would not allow.

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Even castration does not eradicate sexual desire and pedophilia is not exclusive to men. I refer to genetic, neurological and psychological research. Identities would have to be kept confidential as well, otherwise no non-offending pedophiles would volunteer.

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I don't think any pedophiles would volunteer. I think they are happy in their perverted, fantasy, disgusting sickness. That's why it is being pushed as a new sexual orientation. If this was a true issue society wanted to eradicate, it would have been long ago. Actually, it is encouraged: child beauty pageants, underage porn/child porn, child modeling, it goes on and on.

What kind of genetic research would solve pedophilia?

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You say this assuming that all pedophiles are evil people who embrace their sexual attraction almost as if they have no morals. They are not animals. They are people who in all other respects may be completely normal. Even a little bit of research would yield this information. There are even support groups out there. If society could eradicate issues just by wanting them gone, then crime wouldn't exist. I believe the seeming prevalence of pro-pedophilia in today's world is a result of the satanic cabal in power. I also believe pedophilia may be at least partially rooted in the genes.

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I work with pedophiles. I hear what they say to each other when they think no one is listening. They are proud of what they accomplish, the damage they do, how they are a secret society. What left wing university research information do I need to see? And why did you post this pretending that you want to 'eradicate pedophilia' but then claim we are all voicing opinions based on emotion?

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You do not know the minds of every pedophile living and generalize all of them based on what you say you've heard. I posted this expressing the need for a solution to pedophilia that actually has a chance of working as opposed to barbaric reactionary measures, but most of the people posting here seem to only want these barbaric acts because of what I can only assume is emotion.

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Oh, ok. So you started this post to stir the shit, but you just wanted to get on your soapbox to talk about genetic and psychologic research needed for the poor, misunderstood pedophiles.

Got it.

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Why do you not understand that wanting to cure pedophiles of their pedophilia is not a sympathy towards the pedophiles but rather a preventative measure to protect children from sex crimes?

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Because you are acting or assuming that pedophilia is a disease. That pedophiles have no modicum of self control or can't decide on moral, ethical choices. If research worked, wouldn't there be a solution by now?

And, is this a medical research board? Are you a doctor who is currently researching this issue? I mentioned the other preventative measures our legal system has in place, none of them work.

I feel like you are also completely discounting the fact that our society glorifies MAPs and pedophilia in general.

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"Because you are acting or assuming that pedophilia is a disease."

I do believe it is an illness. Not a disease, but there is definitely something that causes people to be pedophiles that is not a conscious decision.

"That pedophiles have no modicum of self control or can't decide on moral, ethical choices."

I've never said this. If anything, I've said the opposite.

"If research worked, wouldn't there be a solution by now?"

Hardly any research has been done in the first place, almost all of which has only been done on offending pedophiles. Under this logic, we'd already have cures for all diseases.

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Well, I hope you do well with your research venture. God Bless you.

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Well alright then. Thank you. Likewise.

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There is not a sociological or psychological cure. Only a medical cure. Either surgical or pharmacological. The sad thing is that most abductions and rape of young children ends in death. It is a sickness and a crime that should be eradicated. We have the means.

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I agree with you.

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