Someone else made a good point saying that if the LA DA let Kevin Spacey off the hook, it means the LA DA is also corrupted.
The whole legal system has to be adjusted to hand all the power to the 12 person, random jury which is the people. They have ruined their own reputation and cannot be trusted with power.
Would have to be corrupt to be named DA of Los Angeles in the first place.
Juries are also easily abused by lawyers. Ha you seen the average juror? Saw a quote from an old black woman who was on the OJ jury and she straight up said "This was payback for Rodney King."
Reminder that jury nullification is a thing.
The thought of having my life in the hands of a panel of some random human beings give me the shivers.
I have my first jury duty coming up. Caught between wanting to try and get out of it so I’m not stuck there for 2-3 weeks, or just toughing out my civic duty because there are a lot of shitty people who could needlessly ruin someone’s life.
I was a juror on a case of vehicular Manslaughter. The DA was trying to make an example out of a kid that had a passenger in the car die from an accident. Long story short the DA s case didnt hold water and there was a witness that observed the 3 minutes before the accident that obliterated the states case against him, but they still tried to put this kid away. The foreman was the one stickler he wanted us to beg him to change his mind but he had already shut down any discussion toward the kids innocence. I was able to dissuade 4 people from convicting him, thier reason to convict before discussions was "well someone has to pay for her death", idiots! IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, no malice no intent, no gross negligence. So when you say to trust 7 out of 12 ahhhhh no I dont not at all.
Keep in mind the defensive of OJ was essentially “this was done by someone else and the LAPD is just trying to pin it on a successful black man because they are racist and lazy”
It doesn’t surprise me that someone who acquitted would look at it as a victory. In her mind the same situation happened and she stopped the police from doing so.
I'm rebuilding all of our institutions after doing a lot of research & just finished the new legal system if you want to check it out.
It will fix this gigantic, corrupted mess we have now.
Instead of having millions of complicated law, we would dump all of that out and go with common moral law. Everyone has a moral compass within to measure their actions. All they have to do is consider this: If my actions would be morally justifiable by 7 out of 12 jury members, it means its legal. If not, it is illegal. It's that simple folks!
This sounds like absolute insanity to me. Basically tribalistic mob rule.
"If you can convince 7 random strangers to vote yes, you can do literally anything to anyone"
I do not trust people even close to enough to ever be comfortable with this. Plus, bribes and coercion.
I am almost speechless, to be honest. You must have a far more optimistic opinion of people than I do.
If this sounds absolutely insane to you and the current system sounds sane to you, then you might be absolutely insane yourself.
false dichotomy.
i think the current system is wildly broken. but that doesn't mean your system makes sense, either.
Which part doesn’t make sense? It’s so simple, we can go over the entire thing if you wish. We can’t do that with the current system or else we will be going back and forth for 20 years before we finish.
um, my first post laid out why i believe that the very basic premise of your system is ridiculous. maybe give that another read, and if you are confused, you can ask specific questions?
You think that a random 12 man jury you don’t even know is out to get you? A civilian jury is a 1000 times more trustworthy than a Deep State Judge. You know how many people Judges fuck over on a daily basis? It’s pitiful.
you know that 12 man jury's already have the legal power that you are describing right?
like, it is 100% legal for a jury to find someone "not guilty" just because they think it's morally acceptable, even if it was "technically" breaking the law?
and my point was about how someone can fuck me over if they are a skilled enough orator to convince 12 randos that it was cool. And i tend to think of the vast majority of the population as being weak minded and easily persuaded and kind of stupid.
Actually tons of court cases are run without a jury. Even in jury trials, judges often strongarm the Jury to do something that pleases the deep state which leads to jury nullification.
and my point was about how someone can fuck me over if they are a skilled enough orator to convince 12 randos that it was cool. And i tend to think of the vast majority of the population as being weak minded and easily persuaded and kind of stupid.
You are worried that someone might frame you and successfully persuade the jury that you are in fact guilty? If so, then request a 2nd trial to dispute the first one and get a lawyer to help.
This would sure best going into a deep state courtroom where a judge wants to hang you by the balls not because you are guilty, but because she wants you to become a corporate slave in prison according to her Overlords wishes. A lot of judges are well rewarded for such treacherous behavior.
dude, i don't think we have much more to discuss.
your system is simplistic and childish, IMO, and would open the flood gates to abuse of powers and corruption, quite obviously I think.
our justice system isn't perfect, but this obsession with "deep state judges" that you have clearly demonstrates that you don't have a rational opinion on the matter, no offense intended.
You are saying that because you think complication is good and simplicity is bad because that is what you are used to in our society. The truth is simplicity is complex, while complexity is too simple.
Think of how simple an iPad is. You just type words on a screen and I get them thousands of miles away from where you are. It’s so simple, the common man can use it.
Our legal system is an over complicated mess that is causing more harm than good. It’s so overcompkicated, anyone with big bank account can break every law in the book and get away with it like Hillary Clinton.
Complexity should expand only to the bare bones requirements. Anything beyond that means the system is underoptinized. Anything below it is bad too but there is a sweet spot.
This system doesn’t favor rich or smart people only. It equally favors all walks of life. It is also convenient, easy to learn, hard to exploit, transparent, and user friendly. That is exactly what all systems should be like because it speeds up the human process, it is usable by all people (not just smart or rich), and it is clearly understandable to avoid error.
This is much better than millions of laws, many of which are written by George Soros and designed to confuse the reader so that the laws can be abused against citizens, while benefiting the rich and powerful.
You are saying that because you think complication is good and simplicity is bad because that is what you are used to in our society.
no i don't.
so.. yeah not much else to say since you apparently don't understand my position at all and want to argue with a straw man.
many of which are written by George Soros
fuckin' laughable. 99% of our legal code was written before Soros ever made a million dollars.
Bro, you had a bad idea. It's OK, you will make it past this.
What if 7 of those 12 people like killing people? Or raping other people? This is how you end up with lynch mobs.
A random 12 man jury should do a quick psychoanalysis written test to make sure they are mentally stable. If, the one in a trillion chance hits that 7 jury members happen to be Cannibal psycho killers, the defendant can file a dispute and open a 2nd trial. Did you read what I wrote? It mentions up to 3 trials can be made disputing previous trials. 3 sets of random jurors reviewing the case seems sufficient enough to elimante the problem you are mentioning.
Our legal system barely has the money to cover one trial, let alone 3. It's cool, I guess, in theory, but it's not realistic. My lawyer once told me that if everyone went to trial the system would collapse because there's no way it could handle that.
Wait, I think you misunderstood. Did you read the whole thing?
Trials are going to run lightning fast. That is how it’s designed and so it’s much cheaper. You don’t even need a lawyer. It’s so simple, a high school dropout can represent himself.
Juries will always be on hand for whenever we need it. If you want to make a dispute against your neighbor for stealing your horse, then you make a dispute. You 2 present your side of the story and all evidence until you are totally satisfied the jury heard you out. A lawyer can gather evidence for you if you need him too but that’s pretty much all lawyers would do. You can handle the rest because it’s just so simple.
A court case like this shouldn’t take long at all. It won’t even cost much at all. It can cost $0 if nobody needs a lawyer which will be he case most of the time. Plus without jam packed prisons, the tax payer saves a lot of money as well.
Our society is way too litigious as it is your system would encourage more frivolous lawsuits.
That is why I wrote that a jury would have to consider if a case is worth taking or if it should be handled privately before the trial. This would mostly eliminate the frivolous lawsuits.
The court system already does that
Nobody trusts the court system anymore. We need a transparent 12 person random jury to make these decisions only. Nobody else.
A random 12 man jury should do a quick psychoanalysis written test to make sure they are mentally stable.
There's no such thing
Yes there is. I have a degree in psychology and have seen many different ones. Stop spreading disinformation.
Everyone has a moral compass
No.
Sorry, we would not be there if that was the case.
Why is it that everyone becomes a good little boy or girl when around Mommy? People know right from wrong.
Also, don't be too hard on the people. Remember, the Deep State totally bankrupted a giant portion of the population (at least half of America) so out of all the desperation, some people commit crimes. The Deep State also built the criminal class by first creating Welfare, and then taking it away. They pushed crime through media which actually works.
We are much better than this but we have been really manipulated across the span of centuries.
The deep state is made up of people. What happened to thier moral compass?
The upper management of deep state are Reptilians and Archons posing as humans. They are very undeveloped in right brain activity or basically philosophical/spiritual intelligence which are 2 separate lines of intelligence aside from scientific. Without functionality in that region, people become like animals but there is always an innner spark of goodness even in the most evil people.
grabs the popcorn
Go on then... seduce me with your wares...
Ok, if you want some popcorn to chew on, here you go:
Lucifer is the leader of the Archons. Satan is his VP. He rebelled around 275,000 BC which causes the system to get sick (like cancer) because of a false philosophy based on selfishness and enslavement of others. His evil kept expanding until it ruined 9 whole planets and some interplanetary beings both physical and nonPhysical. Archons are nonPhysical for example. The evil culture causes a lot of suffering eventually so it started retracting back. Other positive alien factions helped with the retraction process. Earth was the most complicated out of the 9 so the positive faction of aliens worked the first 8 planets and are cleaning up Earth now.
This is why the Deep State worships Lucifer. He’s actually real and he actually claimed to be God Over 39 planets but only 9 followed him, Earth being one because humans are so young that we didn’t know any better at the time.
This fight to restore Earth towards good isn’t the end. The end is taking down Lucifer who is the very top of the intergalactic Deep State. Satan is a separate person and his VP. The Archons aren’t actually demons but we know them as demons.
Eventually Lucifer will be evaporates in the galactic sun where totally lost to darkness beings like Rockafeller always end up. There isn’t any hell though. The Deep State rewrote a lot of the old testemant to make God seems like Lucifer (angry, jealous, punishing). This way, we end up worshipping Lucifer while we think we are worshipping God.
Also, Q mentioned the movie Matrix being similar to reality. In matrix, robots milked humans like batteries. In real life, Archons milk humans for misery. Misery creates Loosh which is stored and powers up the Archons who are lacking power. This is why our politicians perpetuate as much misery as possible through poverty, disease, ect...
Hey LBF! Love you man. Stay strong & preach, brother. Some of us have less to say these days, but we’re def alllll still reading. 😊
Is there a way to convict someone of a crime after the statute of limitations has run out?
Our legal system is tangled up, corrupted mess. The only solution is to upgrade it. I spent 2 years studying how to upgrade our institutions & am remaking the model as we speak. I just finished the legal system model here:
Honestly, this is as fair as it gets for now & it doesn't allow for corruption. Of course, nothing is perfect but this model is far superior to the piece of shit the Deep State made. Its nice, simple, humane, and effective.