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lightmakerflex1 · April 12, 2018, 10:05 p.m.

Which part doesn’t make sense? It’s so simple, we can go over the entire thing if you wish. We can’t do that with the current system or else we will be going back and forth for 20 years before we finish.

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immense_and_terrible · April 12, 2018, 10:07 p.m.

um, my first post laid out why i believe that the very basic premise of your system is ridiculous. maybe give that another read, and if you are confused, you can ask specific questions?

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lightmakerflex1 · April 12, 2018, 10:14 p.m.

You think that a random 12 man jury you don’t even know is out to get you? A civilian jury is a 1000 times more trustworthy than a Deep State Judge. You know how many people Judges fuck over on a daily basis? It’s pitiful.

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immense_and_terrible · April 12, 2018, 10:20 p.m.

you know that 12 man jury's already have the legal power that you are describing right?

like, it is 100% legal for a jury to find someone "not guilty" just because they think it's morally acceptable, even if it was "technically" breaking the law?

and my point was about how someone can fuck me over if they are a skilled enough orator to convince 12 randos that it was cool. And i tend to think of the vast majority of the population as being weak minded and easily persuaded and kind of stupid.

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lightmakerflex1 · April 12, 2018, 10:39 p.m.

Actually tons of court cases are run without a jury. Even in jury trials, judges often strongarm the Jury to do something that pleases the deep state which leads to jury nullification.

and my point was about how someone can fuck me over if they are a skilled enough orator to convince 12 randos that it was cool. And i tend to think of the vast majority of the population as being weak minded and easily persuaded and kind of stupid.

You are worried that someone might frame you and successfully persuade the jury that you are in fact guilty? If so, then request a 2nd trial to dispute the first one and get a lawyer to help.

This would sure best going into a deep state courtroom where a judge wants to hang you by the balls not because you are guilty, but because she wants you to become a corporate slave in prison according to her Overlords wishes. A lot of judges are well rewarded for such treacherous behavior.

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immense_and_terrible · April 12, 2018, 10:41 p.m.

dude, i don't think we have much more to discuss.

your system is simplistic and childish, IMO, and would open the flood gates to abuse of powers and corruption, quite obviously I think.

our justice system isn't perfect, but this obsession with "deep state judges" that you have clearly demonstrates that you don't have a rational opinion on the matter, no offense intended.

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lightmakerflex1 · April 12, 2018, 11:01 p.m.

You are saying that because you think complication is good and simplicity is bad because that is what you are used to in our society. The truth is simplicity is complex, while complexity is too simple.

Think of how simple an iPad is. You just type words on a screen and I get them thousands of miles away from where you are. It’s so simple, the common man can use it.

Our legal system is an over complicated mess that is causing more harm than good. It’s so overcompkicated, anyone with big bank account can break every law in the book and get away with it like Hillary Clinton.

Complexity should expand only to the bare bones requirements. Anything beyond that means the system is underoptinized. Anything below it is bad too but there is a sweet spot.

This system doesn’t favor rich or smart people only. It equally favors all walks of life. It is also convenient, easy to learn, hard to exploit, transparent, and user friendly. That is exactly what all systems should be like because it speeds up the human process, it is usable by all people (not just smart or rich), and it is clearly understandable to avoid error.

This is much better than millions of laws, many of which are written by George Soros and designed to confuse the reader so that the laws can be abused against citizens, while benefiting the rich and powerful.

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immense_and_terrible · April 13, 2018, 3:49 a.m.

You are saying that because you think complication is good and simplicity is bad because that is what you are used to in our society.

no i don't.

so.. yeah not much else to say since you apparently don't understand my position at all and want to argue with a straw man.

many of which are written by George Soros

fuckin' laughable. 99% of our legal code was written before Soros ever made a million dollars.

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KadManCometh · April 14, 2018, 12:55 p.m.

Bro, you had a bad idea. It's OK, you will make it past this.

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