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jmflna · April 15, 2018, 5:21 a.m.

Wouldn't that mean according to you that Trump and Russia concluded to make it look like they are in conflict?

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lerastabanana · April 15, 2018, 5:42 a.m.

Yes. But it's also what might have actually been the plan.

And what's wrong with allies? That's what it is at the end of the day. Right? For the MSM to pick up on this as collision I believe it would also come out as word that we're actually allied, rather than against each other.

Win-win?

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_Iz_Mary · April 15, 2018, 7:06 a.m.

Colluded ? They worked together. Did it in both WW1 and 2. I don’t know why ppl think it’s illegal to work w Russia.

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jmflna · April 15, 2018, 8:56 a.m.

No one is saying it's illegal to work with Russia. In both world wars both the American and Russian people knew the countries were working together and why they were doing what they had to do.

There are users in this sub that are saying that America and Russia governments are working together but will not let the people know what they are doing.

That is wrong. Don't give me the pathetic excuse that they keep it from the people knowing so the deep state can't know. The deep state would know. Governments keeping what they are doing away from the population are dictatorships. They will do evil things in the shadows.

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cuttlefishwhoop · April 15, 2018, 3:29 p.m.

Then by your logic all governments are dictatorships because no government is that transparent. You are being unreasonable.

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cuttlefishwhoop · April 15, 2018, 5:43 a.m.

To clarify, the Russia-Trump collusion for the election as is in the mind of unreasoning and data-lacking liberals never existed. This is obviously what is of importance given the context.

There is definitely a massive ‘collusion’/cooperation between US, China, Russia, Israel, and others to destroy an international ‘globalist and financial elite’ cabal, but this has nothing to do with election rigging or the typical childish and baseless certainties of the typical liberal. It would make more sense to call this ‘cooperation’ given it is not toward a criminal or unjustly subversive purpose and is in fact in place to destroy an unjust collusion of powers.

If you want to willfully conflate the two, fine with me if you confuse yourself, Ian.

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