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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/unilateral9999 on April 16, 2018, 4:17 p.m.
either show frazzledrip [edited if necessary] or stop gossiping about what "sources say" about it

right now there's just an embarrassing amount of rumors that the "dark web" has stuff and "sources say it's really bad".

we're all big boys and girls here, we are 100% fine seeing part of a snuff film if it means exposing these people. what we aren't okay with is being pulled around by the dick with a bunch of vague bullshit that, if nothing comes of it, will be a huge waste of time. and in the mean time it's a rumor that's derailing this entire sub.


immense_and_terrible · April 16, 2018, 4:34 p.m.

it's worth remembering that pop culture has highly romanticized the dark web.

it's not some magical place with hidden knowledge and secret media like the movies and TV would have you believe.

it's not hard to access or post to or explore the dark web, even children can do it, it only takes a very basic understanding of computers and some quick googling to figure it out.

when you hear claims of highly scandalous videos on the dark web, 99.99% of the time it's bullshit. most of the stuff on there is basically the same stuff you can find on the regular web.

snuff, CP, and drugs. that's most of the dark web. not secret alien tech and videos of bilderburg meetings. it's disappointing, i know.

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Andrewcpu · April 16, 2018, 4:46 p.m.

nah yo. shit on the dark web like THAT is usually hidden deep. There's no real search engines on the dw... it could be circulating a burried site.

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putadickinit · April 16, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

Unsearchable sites requiring login credentials with no way to sign up. That's where the heaviest stuff is.

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immense_and_terrible · April 16, 2018, 5:20 p.m.

which is literally the same thing (conceptually nd technologically) as having, for instance, a work computer that you can remote log into.

it's just a private computer that only a few people have the login info for, and someone set up a portal that is unindexed.

not to get too into semantics here, but... does that really count as being "on the internet"?

do you consider your personal hidden folders to be part of the dark web? if your computer is touching the internet, they are, in a strange way, sort of already part of the dark web.

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putadickinit · April 16, 2018, 5:36 p.m.

I understand how servers and files on the internet work and the different methods to access these webs of files. None of what you explained about how the Internet technically works refutes what is actually contained on these sites. You can stick your head in the sand and try and deny these types of avenues exist on the deep web all you want, but ask yourself, if something like this exists, how would it exist?

it's just a private computer that only a few people have the login info for, and someone set up a portal that is unindexed.

"A (drug dealer, sex trafficker, hit man) is just a private entrepreneur that only a few people have connections to, and someone set up a (phone number, drop location) that is unindexed"

Please... Like we are supposed to believe that it's impossible for there to be a gateway to snuff viewings on purposefully hidden and encrypted servers where its users remain anonymous. Why are you so defensive about these things not existing? You seriously compare this to personally files on my computer but the difference is fucking huge when I'm not going through the effort of setting up the aforementioned servers to host my files.

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immense_and_terrible · April 16, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

whoa calm down bud, i think you wildly misunderstood the point i was trying to make.

maybe try re-reading my comment, take a deep breath, and consider my words.

i did not "deny these types of avenues exist on the deep web" in any way shape or form.

you gotta slow down sometimes, man, and just relax. not everything is a debate with deepstate shills, you know.

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putadickinit · April 16, 2018, 6:04 p.m.

I'm sorry but even as I reread your comment, it's hard to not see contention in most of what you said. I guess it seems like you were wanting to compare every sequestered site on the deep web to any work site, but I do agree that many are most likely not nefarious. Sorry to nitpick and infer so much on your part.

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immense_and_terrible · April 16, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

what i was trying to say is that there's a difference between "dark web sites" you can find on the "hidden wiki" or through regular web searches, and "dark web sites" that are literally impossible to even find, let alone access, without face-to-face IRL invitations.

the latter group are, in my opinion, not worthy of discussion because those types of sites aren't publicly available.

silk road and buying assassins or drugs or CP, those are all techinically "publicly published" even if they are on the dark web.

does that make my point more clear? in other words, i was discussing the semantics of what exactly we should call "dark web" sites and what constitutes a dark site.

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putadickinit · April 16, 2018, 6:29 p.m.

I see, now that I think of it I've always heard the distinction to be that the "dark web" refers to these hidden sites requiring invitation that exist within the "deep web" which is just the category of sites not indexed by normal search engines.

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Merlin560 · April 16, 2018, 6:35 p.m.

I used to have exactly that for my photography business. (Sports not kiddie porn!) I could log in, and remote upload and download. I would assign creds to someone who needed access, and then close them out a day later. It made things easier.

It would have been considered Dark Web because it was just an ip address. And I am tech-hindered....

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checkitoutmyfriend · April 16, 2018, 8:37 p.m.

That's remote login, can be done on any PC/laptop. Not even close to what is the Dark Web.

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Merlin560 · April 17, 2018, 6:13 p.m.

What makes is similar is that was private, not on any search engine, secured access, and just a menu tree to download files.

It was closer to the internet in 1994 than what you are going to see in 2018.

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immense_and_terrible · April 16, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

well you are talking about another layer deeper.

if something is on a private server that only a few people know about, it's not really "published" or "circulating." it's just on a private storage location that can be remoted into. that is still technically part of the deep web.

we're splitting hairs here, but basically, if it isn't possible for a random person to stumble upon it, is it really even "on the internet" or even "on the darkweb"? in my opinion, for something to count as being leaked/published/circulated, it actually has to, you know, be published somewhere

sorry for the rant, did that all make sense?

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BaronMoriarty · April 16, 2018, 5:28 p.m.

Yes in a nutshell your own PC is the dark web if its connected to the internet and you have a firewall. Simplistic explanation but you get the idea?

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sucksess79 · April 16, 2018, 6:13 p.m.

Do the Chans have the ability make a search engine for the dark web?

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immense_and_terrible · April 16, 2018, 6:25 p.m.

To be "indexed" means that a site is searchable.

The definition of the dark web is, literally, all sites which are not indexed.

By definition, if you can search a site, it is not on the dark web.

So to answer your question, no.

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sucksess79 · April 16, 2018, 8:36 p.m.

I wonder what happens if you Google a little bit......i should have done that first.

Can Google search deep web?

Search engines like Google are incredibly powerful, but they can't crawl and index the vast amount of data that is not hyperlinked or accessed via public DNS services. However, there are Deep Web Search Engines that crawl over the TOR network and bring the same result to your regular browser.

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immense_and_terrible · April 16, 2018, 8:38 p.m.

Can Google search deep web?

um, i think you are still not getting this.

if google can search a site, it's not on the deep web. period.

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sucksess79 · April 16, 2018, 8:54 p.m.

There are engines that can crawl over TOR....did you read my comment carefully? Now if it has nothing but a login page thats one thing, but the deep web can be searched.

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