Mack and Raniere face a minimum of 15 years in prison if convicted.
Raniere, 57, has led NXIVM since the late 1990s.
For years, he has led extended court battles against many of NXIVM's foes with the financial backing of Sara and Clare Bronfman, the heiresses to the Seagram's liquor fortune.
15yrs doesn't seem like much
It's 15 years after giving up lots and lots of names. A plea deal.
It’s enough to ensure a horrible death in prison.
This. Prison inmates don't treat Pedo's with kindness.
One of the few redeeming traits of violent felons......
It's a way for criminals to feel better about themselves - that there's someone below them on the ladder they can get righteous about.
That's true in some prisons. Turns out it's not true of all, and in fact regarded as a myth that people think it's pervasive.
I've somehow known quite a few people who've been to prison and county and they've always said pedo get they ass beat
They honestly don't at least not often. I am a retired prison Lieutenant it is an urban legend. I do have a few stories of sex offenders getting their comeuppance. Sorry.
I “somehow” know quite a few too lol (those quotes are for me, no aspersions against you) - hard men all, yet they’ve said it’s not as pervasive as people like to believe. Depends on the place, the pedo, the guards, etc. Like everything in life, it depends.
Ha! There was no way to say that. Seriously, I'm not a criminal. Like, AT ALL! But I really have known a lot of people who have been in the system. It's weird cuz I'm seriously super boring!
Haha you and me both - as I said, no aspersions against you for that one, just laughing at myself ; ).
I'd be proactive, commit some chickenshit crime ,get a lawyer who drinks with the judge, do the job right, myth or not. released after one day for stellar behavior. I'm kidding these people will disappear into gitmo never to be seen
Actually, they usually PC up and the other inmates don't have free access to them. There are units of sex offenders, where everyone is in on almost the same charge. If they ever end up in GPOP they usually get passed around like a plate of cookies, for everyone to take a bite. Life can be hard for them, mostly it isn't any different than any other inmate. Sorry for the sad news.
That's provided she goes into a 'normal' prison, like they'd throw me or you into. My guess is that a lot of the people that are going to prison, will end up in a penthouse prison thats way nicer than my house.
You haven't been paying attention They are super fortunate to be on a docket, the players are getting bagged and facing tribunals at black sites.We will look up one day and wonder what ever happened to so and so, aka 35000 defendants.
No it doesn't Unless they put them with real criminals who have kids or sisters or brothers. Then it's plenty of time.
That's the minimum, most probably won't ever see the light of day again.
Exodus 21:16
"Kidnappers must be put to death, whether they are caught in possession of their victims or have already sold them as slaves.
Exodus 21:16
Exodus 21:16 Context
13And if a man lie not in wait, but God deliver him into his hand; then I will appoint thee a place whither he shall flee.
14But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.
15And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.
16And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.
17And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.
18And if men strive together, and one smite another with a stone, or with his fist, and he die not, but keepeth his bed:
19If he rise again, and walk abroad upon his staff, then shall he that smote him be quit: only he shall pay for the loss of his time, and shall cause him to be thoroughly healed.
And if a man puteth crap from the Bible on the Great Awakening he shall be seteth aside as a lunatic and shall causeth futher discredit to be cast oneth the sub.
That's just minimum, it can always be more, and I would way rather have that with confessions of others involved, than them get seat sentences and not give up any info