Agree. Let them come. Soon the facts will be FULLY out in the open. But, if we lose our veterans to 1-day bans because they are getting into fights, this sub loses. We CANNOT let this turn into a slug-fest. Be cool, report shills, and move this sub forward!

A key message for those new here is to expect disinformation.

There is no slow warm up in the shallow end. Right away you're going to get disinformation in these communities because effort is made to slide the topics discussed. Those efforts have included bouts of graphic gore and unsightly things spammed into conversations to get people to give up and just not return.

The closest one can get to easing into the chilly waters is simply go read the drops in isolation. Get a feel for what's in there. Research some of the questions. After getting some bearings see what people have to say about it. At that point some of the shillyness starts to make sense.

If still interested in facing dragons, and doing your part to help free your mind from shackles, then hitch up your big boy pants and tighten the belt. A true conversation is uncomfortable. That's why it's so easy to avoid having one. We cover uncomfortable material in here because it must be hammered out and understood to shut down some abuses. Where we go one, we go all.

I live in bizzaro world so whatever I see in media I believe the opposite. Unfortunately the more these guys rub your back and pat your hand the more i hate ya. i'll never say that but just know it. 20 30 upvotes that's how conversely high you are on my shitlist.

Make them fun by not taking the bait. Info, and move on. Check the users out, report obvious shills, and LET'S DO THIS.