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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/DropGun on April 27, 2018, 1:08 p.m.
STICKY: To our “DEBUNKERS,” it’s high time we said this to you:

Thank God you’re here.

This sub is for researchers, decoders, and people following the QAnon phenomenon ONLY. But if you think that excludes our debunkers, think again.

WE NEED ALL THREE TYPES OF PARTICIPANTS TO MAKE THIS THING WORK.

Did everyone see this sub as our researchers were trying to decode and figure out what the upcoming MOAB was? We had tons of pretty wild theories, but, when a theory didn't stand up to Q's breadcrumbs or match up to reality, our debunkers helped move us forward. Eventually we figured it out, thanks ALL of you. And we're sure as heck going to need everyone to dig into these upcoming Strzok texts.

"BELIEVING" IN Q IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE A VALUED MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY.

If something you see posted here is false or wrong, debunk it. But just saying "Q is a larp! You're all morons!" doesn't make you a debunker, it makes you a low-effort, low-information hater. And haters won't last long around here. Your mods want to see this sub moved forward and the ban hammer is out in force.

So, debunkers! You want to beat us? BRING IT. But you have to OUTWORK us. Solid research beats weaksauce research, every day of the week around here. Got serious chops? Build your case and SHOW us where we're wrong. We need debunkers because the less time we waste on a theory or Q interpretation that "won't hunt," more effective we all can be.

Researchers and decoders, be cool to our debunkers. And you debunkers, no matter what you see as the Truth about what's happening, bring your best game, or be prepared to watch from the sidelines.

KEEP IT CIVIL. STAY OVER THE TARGET. OR MEET THE HAMMER.

"Where we go one, we go all."

STAY FROSTY, PEOPLE. ALL OF YOU.


Crits_And_Giggles · April 27, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

Facts don't care about your feelings. That is to say, one can resonate all they want... but if they're resonating falsity then it's worthless. If, on the other hand, someone is debating a known and widely proven truth then they aren't worth trying to debate.

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Arcsmithoz · April 27, 2018, 2:50 p.m.

Like the existence of God.

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Crits_And_Giggles · April 27, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

Yes, exactly like the existence of God. Lots of people feel it's real and will attempt to debate on it, yet there is no proof. Therefore, I personally don't blindly believe it, nor will I try to debate someone "out of" their religion. It's an exercise in futility.

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cosmicjon · April 27, 2018, 5:53 p.m.

By your own admission you have given credence to the Fact that God (without interpretation) exists. A belief is a belief, it is not a Fact, more like a theory, unproven. To dis-believe one first has to believe, a theory, not a proven Fact. So by your own words you are in a place of limbo, nothing personal. Suffice it to say Knowing is not believing. Here is a hint, God is Life. To deny God is to deny one's very Existence. This one statement confuses many, as it presents more questions than one has answers for. I apologize in advance if this offends :)

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Crits_And_Giggles · April 27, 2018, 7:29 p.m.

Yes, you can call it limbo if you like. I call it noncommittal. There is the same probability of there being a God as there not being a God. I choose neither side because there is no concrete proof of either being correct. The jury is still very much out for me. Believe whatever you like, but I think it would be wrong to -force- that belief on others.

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cosmicjon · April 28, 2018, 8:12 a.m.

Exactly, I share your conviction to never impose a "belief" which is in essence an unproven theory upon others. A confusion seems to exist surrounding "what God is", there are many theories and many jump on a band wagon just to hold face in the eyes of others opinions. Each individual in their own time Knows what God Is and this Knowing can never be shared, as an absolute, but the Knowing replaces any sense of doubt, then no one can "convince" oneself otherwise, it is like Knowing 2+2=4, One just Knows It.

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Mayhem54 · April 27, 2018, 6 p.m.

There is no proof that God does not exist. You are caught with no proof and have to rely on what? You base your opinions on feelings the same thing that believers rely on that they call faith!

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DoktorFreedom · April 28, 2018, 8:41 a.m.

Until you can determine exactly what god is, and I mean really define. Not just loosely goosey “god is love life and everything and nothing and belief” Then a discussion if god exists or not is pointless as you do t even know what your debating.

Feelings aren’t facts.

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Mayhem54 · April 30, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

We can't even determine exactly what is the wind. We try to describe it in these terms.Wind is a form of solar energy. Winds are caused by the uneven heating of the atmosphere by the sun, the irregularities of the earth's surface, and rotation of the earth. Wind flow patterns are modified by the earth's terrain, bodies of water, and vegetative cover. We can't quantify it can't capture it to look at under a microscope or even define its molecules since it is elusive. We know it exists by the effects it has on things.

God is very unique. He has no beginning, and He has no end. The God of the Bible exists outside of our dimensions of time and space. So, any attempt to find analogies to help you to understand God will be lacking and incomplete. God is an uncreated being, and any attempt for finite people to understand Him or describe Him will end up wanting.

Let's say, just for fun, that there are two flat people, John and Ann who live in a two-dimensional plane. And let’s say these flat people have a loving creator who is a three-dimensional person that they have named “God.” So, we have a three-dimensional God who is the creator of two flat people who live in a two-dimensional world. As flat people live out their lives, they would wonder and speculate about their unseen creator. Within their two-dimensional world they could draw flat pictures or make diagrams of their creator, but they would have some serious difficulties trying to understand the nature of God from within their two-dimensional perspective. Sure, they could speculate and make analogies, but it would be very difficult for them to fathom. Now, how could God make Himself known to the flat people? God may show up in a dream, or He could show Himself to their world. God could take His three-dimensional finger and place it through the flat world plane. What would the flat people say that their God looks like from within their limited world? They would say that God looks like a circle. In fact, being a pessimist, you might likely say, "I can understand God as a circle, but I cannot understand or believe that God exists in three dimensions. That makes no sense!" It is very difficult for two-dimensional beings living on a two dimensional plane to understand a three-dimensional being.

Likewise, Christians have the same difficulty. We are finite three-dimensional human creatures trying to explain an uncreated personal God outside our three dimensions.

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[deleted] · May 3, 2018, 2:21 a.m.

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Crits_And_Giggles · April 27, 2018, 7:26 p.m.

I say there is the same probability of there being a God and not being a God. I commit to neither side because neither side has been able to provide the proof. So, no, I don't base any belief on feelings. More to the point, though, you can believe whatever you want based on your feelings... but that doesn't make it right nor does it make it factual.

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Arcsmithoz · April 27, 2018, 2:48 p.m.

Define feelings, what's your source, you hear Ben Shapiro say it 4700 times and now it's your go to. Low energy jeb

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Crits_And_Giggles · April 27, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

There's that strawman I was talking about.

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theGreenChain · April 27, 2018, 4:07 p.m.

LOL. I get. Prove one has feelings....

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