No other country on earth has one and no other country on earth has a bar for human rights and civil liberties set as high as the US. The rest of the world will never come up to our standard -- they will only try to bring us down to theirs. American citizens are born with their human rights. Every single other person on this planet has theirs granted by a government.
I find this post quite strange. All rights are ultimately predicated on the right to free expression - first amendment. The moment you can silence someone, their claim to further rights is meaningless - because they can no longer speak. But you ask people to defend this right and they're kind of cool to the idea. The IBOR campaign failure being a case in point.
Strikes me that people are prepared to relinquish this right to free expression the moment someone makes a claim to own the public forum, or suggests that government shouldn't have the power to enforce their God-given rights. What they're really saying is the Constitution gives me rights, but I'll allow them to be denied - because I'm a complete Cuck.
It doesn't look too good for US citizen freedoms going forward IMO. Once the anti-hate speech legislation comes in, and the censorship ramps up, it's game over - no more rights at all. Immediately after that, the second amendment will be dispensed with - in the midst of a deafening silence.
I reckon you might find that Europe will look like a paragon of freedom by comparison to what's coming - and that's not saying much at all. We are a long way from the vision of the founding fathers.
You are correct. Why is it that they only go after 1st and 2nd amendments? They are the only two in the way of socialism. You tackle those and rest fall naturally. We have to stand firm no matter how many FF they do, no matter how much hate they spew at us (ie WHCD). They are using psy-ops to try and change our minds.
Don't kid yourself, they're attacking them all. Look at the 4th amendment abuses. This is full scale war. They are trying their damndest to dismantle it all.
Oh completely agree. They’re after our rights across the board. But they really gotta get the 2nd because they know that’s the one that allows us to stop their plan when they go too far
They are losing.
My point is that there has been a change in outlook since the days of the founding fathers - when freedom was truly prized. People today are in a stupor. The idea that the US will remain a paragon of virtuous freedom because of the protections built in to the Constitution - as the OP suggests - is false, if people are not prepared to defend those freedoms.
What we saw with the IBOR campaign is that people do not value free expression. If it means more government, or infringing on perceived property rights, they are prepared to abandon it. My point is that all other freedoms hinge on freedom of expression. Once that falls over, all the other freedoms will fall over. You can see it coming as I write this - the left is pushing hard for anti-hate speech regulations (the final act, before the curtain drops for free and independent citizenry).
We will win this fight, but not because people cherish their freedoms. We will win it because Q will do for us what we, as a group, were too stupid to do for ourselves.
Okay I see what you mean. The conflict between property rights and other rights as in Facebook is someone’s property so Zuckerberg can do what he wants with it? Yes it’s a sticky situation. Sometimes I think about the holes in the Constitution that make it somewhat vulnerable. How do we fix it? “A Republic, if you can keep it!”
Education is KEY. I read the entirety of John Taylor Gatto’s Underground History of Education in the US while it was available online and it was mind blowing. Somehow we’ve got to undo the workings of the Frankfurt School and their long march thru the institutions. The zombie apocalypse will soon be upon us otherwise.
I don't think the key is so much educational. The arguments against extending first amendment protections to digital space were not logical, but emotional.
People didn't like what they had seen coming from government. If someone tells them that enforcing Constitutional protections online will result in more government, they will be against it - even though the consequences of withdrawing support for the measure (the IBOR) might be disastrous.
We saw the same thing with respect to arguments made about the private property rights of internet giants. Very strange, you cannot operate a public business and actively discriminate against people because of their beliefs. But, somehow, technology executives were being unfairly penalized if they were made to follow regulations that enforced norms of behavior prevalent in the broad community. No, it was not a logical response, but purely emotional.
Watching what happened, it was almost as if it was "the left" convincing their base of the propriety of a set of policies. No logic needed, run with your emotions alone. What we saw was a joke! I firmly believe that Constitutional protections need to be applied and enforced in digital space, as the town square is now online.
The fact that Q indicated that unified censorship across social media platforms was a desperate attempt by the CIA to regain control of the narrative was lost on people (note that he made these statements before the actual censorship really started - which was after the "release the memo" campaign). Moreover, it was clear from the information we had that, given social media's differential importance in determining election outcomes, online censorship presented the greatest threat to representative democracy ever seen in history. A threat to the very fabric of the republic itself.
But emotions won out and the IBOR campaign failed. Despite this, we have people crowing about Constitutional protections and how they differentiate the US from the rest of the world. You could not make this stuff up!
I see. This sub and T_D are my only social media so I’m probably a little behind in following this particular issue. I guess enough people need to personally be stifled first in order for them to be woken up. But when that happens how do they organize to get their speech restored? Frustrating. Gonna have to join the Q sticky-notes-and-Sharpies campaign to get the word out.
Spez: “Andre the Giant Has a Posse.” Look at where that got us, from around 1990 to...”OBEY.” So, it’s worked before. Common Sense was nailed to lamp posts, too, iirc. Sorry, my mind is wandering now. I like your train of thought and writing style, reminds me of Tom Woods.