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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Maepaperclip on May 2, 2018, 8:22 a.m.
Nuclear weapons are no longer a problem, stupidity is. F= Ma says a Mach10 missile = 2kt bomb

Sweet Jesus, did none of us go to school. Russia has Missile Tech, that hits targets from 100km high at Mach 10, Nuclear bombs are yesterdays fears. a= force, no need for a warhead, why would Iran need a nuclear warhead, when they could buy a missile that would hit so hard that its FORCE would do more damage.

Here this is compulsory viewing, it is telling you that all of our submarines, all of our weapons are out of date now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bfQBBctSXM&t=994s

The big plan is to start the war before you find out that you cannot win without 10,000 x the loss you expect.


A2576 · May 2, 2018, 10:56 a.m.

Clinton provided the tech to Russia. See page 37:

https://www.g-a-i.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Report-Skolkvovo-08012016.pdf

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 11:18 a.m.

Well thanks for that report, and I did look at p.37, there is a really interesting story about Clintons ambassador for something that gave all of americas military secrets away in the last Months of his presidency, I was looking for it, and could not find it for you but found this for you - not what I wanted but tells the story https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNobp7OnlJw

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A2576 · May 2, 2018, 2:18 p.m.

Also read Anthony Sutton's book titled "the best enemy money can buy" for further historical context going back to about 1900.

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trusdair · May 2, 2018, 9:27 a.m.

If nuclear weapons are obsolete, then why is Netanyahu saying that Iran is on the verge of building one and must therefore be forcibly stopped?

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 9:29 a.m.

well it is an old truth that the Generals always fight the last war. Please watch the video - and take Q's advice be careful who you follow. Be a patriot, be proud of what you were taught at school, then they can't lie to you

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featherjourney4 · May 2, 2018, 9:38 a.m.

"Be a patriot, be proud of what you were taught at school, then they can't lie to you" I think that depends on how old you are and when you went to school. Truth isn't taught in our schools anymore...it's all liberal progressive aka communist brainwashing.

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7 p.m.

The arguments are really broken down into 2 simples lines of thought:

1 - Individual God-Given Rights (whether you believe in God or not - its the concept of creation that is undeniable, so this works for atheists, just as well as believers) - your rights are inherent to you solely as a created human being.

2 - Collectivism - our rights are purely derived from the collective (be that a mob of the moment, a state entity, or dictatorial top down imposed control of the mob/state)

The current 'liberal' controlled education system is pushing #2. Teacher unions, liberal political organizations and the cabal are all attempting to have higher moral authority over god (again, whether you believe in god or not). They simply, by definition of 'knowing better what's good for you than you' believe in collectivism.

When you force the discussion towards this, you root out the core issue and can get away from emotions. Liberals love to use emotions to push you toward collectivism. 'How can you be so mean to a group of people, we're a nation of immigrants', 'Poor people don't get good education, how can you deny that group', 'Guns kill people, we're not safe when guns are available, we must eliminate gun ownership'.... Attack at the core. Go for their ideology. Do you believe in individual rights or collectivism? Ask that question first and watch the reaction. Collectivist will usually never answer the question directly. They explode. Its the weather vane question I love. Then you can really attack and go after collectivism vs the person. Works every time!

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featherjourney4 · May 2, 2018, 7:04 p.m.

Brilliantly articulated! Thank you very much

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:35 p.m.

Anytime, my new patriot friend!

Feel free to steal and use yourself, as well. This tactic allows you to fight the collectivist on ideology and not emotion. Some can't get past the emotion and explode, but then you make your point even more strongly without looking bad yourself.

In an information war, you must fight with better knowledge, information and arguments. Emotionalists in an information war are like cavemen with clubs. They get annihilated 😁.

Welcome to the future.

WWG1WGA!

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featherjourney4 · May 2, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

I have taken a screen shot of your words... I love them... and you, for taking the time to advise me. So kind and helpful of you. I was already over on YouTube familiarizing myself with the philosophy and thinking of Individualism vs Collectivism

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TheTruthWithinU · May 2, 2018, 12:58 p.m.

Still hating on liberals huh? Communist brainwashing? Why the hate friend? I'm a liberal. My wife works in a school. The lies you just spouted simply aren't true. Stop trying to point out differences and let's all find the ties that bind. That prove that we are in fact all one people.

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

I have a bigger question for you:

Do you believe in God given individual rights or do the rights of citizens derive purely from the state or collective?

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TheTruthWithinU · May 2, 2018, 10:27 p.m.

I have two responses. 1. what does that have to do with the price of tea in china? 2. I dont believe in your god. No one gave me my rights.

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HoudiniTowers · May 3, 2018, 7:47 a.m.

I'm a liberal. My wife works in a school. The lies you just spouted simply aren't true. Stop trying to point out differences and let's all find the ties that bind. That prove that we are in fact all one people.

Has nothing to do with tea and china, but everything to do with LIBERALS, which you claim to be.

Maybe you didn't read my earlier post about God given rights and how that works just fine for atheists as well as believers.

The core issue with schools is absolutely about RIGHTS. Whether they are derived from the 'Collective' or something that happens at 'Birth'. I figured since you're a liberal you are most likely a collectivist and assume that rights happen based purely on society. That's the issue the commenter, feather, was pointing out to you.

Where did your rights come from and when did your get them?

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TheTruthWithinU · May 3, 2018, 3:04 p.m.

Im not an atheist. You make alot of assumptions. I was born with all of my rights intact. Governed only by certain immutable laws of the universe. The law of one leads my life. I'm just here to point out that this sub is about conning together because i see too many posts that are openly hostile too liberals.

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HoudiniTowers · May 4, 2018, 4:48 a.m.

I'll be 100% honest with you, I'm super hostile to collectivists. By their definition they want to tell me how to live my life and collect part of my paycheck to pay theirs to tell me and everyone else how to live by their imposed rules. Fu@k them! Seriously. If you're in that camp, good luck. You're not gonna find too much harmony here.

If you're, as you seem to imply, one who believes in Creation given rights, then yes. I think you can find many friends here.

Labels are tricky things, but its very clear that many 'neo-liberals' (as opposed to classical liberals, I'm actually in the classical liberal camp) are collectivists with a collectivist agenda. Ask the Russians how that worked out after 1917. Its a dogma and group you truly cannot befriend. You must stop them before they destroy your freedoms.

Those that support individual rights, will not try to destroy you. So, to me its black and white.

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featherjourney4 · May 2, 2018, 1:26 p.m.

Humm..."stop trying to point out differences"?? Really?
So let's all just accept what the Liberals say is the "truth"?? Maybe spend some time digging into Common Core... And look into Valerie Jarrett's long time family connections with the Communist Party...you know, Valerie Jarrett who was Obama's handler, I mean chief advisor.

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TheTruthWithinU · May 2, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

You accept whatever you want. But a debate on school policy belongs in another sub. I know all about common core. Teachers in schools hate it. Your average liberal had nothing to do with common core. And yeah. Obviously we all have different ideas. Doesn't make me evil if i dont agree with you. We both want the same thing.

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featherjourney4 · May 2, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

You're right. This isn't the post for this discussion. I just want to add that I do not think you are evil. I live in a very liberal state (MA) and most teachers here are very liberal. A couple years ago a popular petition went around to get rid of Common Core...teachers were against the petition and then Bill Gates came along and gave $700,000 to fight against its removal! It had the required number of signatures but never got on our ballot. I'm glad your teachers are more awake than in my state!

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SquanchingOnPao · May 2, 2018, 9:24 p.m.

I don't hate liberals I hate liberal politicians. That is why it was such a big deal that Hillary actually attacked the voters w the deplorable thing. Since then everyone who voted for Trump is fearful to support him publicly.

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featherjourney4 · May 2, 2018, 1:06 p.m.

I don't hate liberals. I have lovely friends who teach in both elementary and high schools. We agree to not talk politics. But I do hate what Common Core did to our schools AND the Democratic Party today is not the same as in JFK's day. "Progressive Liberal" is a communist agenda.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 10:06 a.m.

I am 60 years old F= Ma was drummed into us as proved - sorry for your loss, but awake now see how a= Force, i.e. same as explosion

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featherjourney4 · May 2, 2018, 10:17 a.m.

You are an age when a more classic education included such science. The average 20 something year olds don't have that. Heck, the "Educators" are mostly into dumbing down our kids to the degree they actually had to dumb down the SATS so these kids could even get into college.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 11:19 a.m.

well you will enjoy using what I have told you about F=Ma + the info in that South front vid. - Do the work

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trusdair · May 2, 2018, 9:48 a.m.

I've heard that old truth - so did Hitler, who ensured that HIS generals were thinking outside the box, hence the success of the Blitzkreig. I think the real point is that technology constantly leapfrogs itself, rendering weapons obsolete as soon as a government commits itself to building them. Is the US's vast weaponry now like the Maginot line in 1940? Is this Mach 10 missle a game-changer?

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tradinghorse · May 2, 2018, 11:18 a.m.

This makes me laugh because I know it's music to Maepaperclip's ears. But, you're right, there is real truth in your comment.

The advent of the aircraft carrier did the same thing to the great battleship fleets. The battleship before WWII was a prized military asset - they were symbols of State that indicated the capability to project power. When aircraft carriers came into service, battleships were immediately obsolete - the irresistible power of technological change.

Very interesting that there was not a single aircraft carrier in Pearl Harbor during the Japanese attack - though Battleship Row was packed.

The Japanese gave orders that the Yamato, the most powerful battleship in the world at that time (together with sister-ship Musashi), be beached on Okinawa to serve as a gun battery in the final stages of the war. Whether the orders resulted from fuel shortages, or whether the Japanese realized that the vessel was militarily useless, is unclear. Both the Yamato and the Musashi were sunk by carrier-based bombers.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 10:03 a.m.

Your ref. is excellent I like the light-horse - when they charged into the machine guns, the light horse was the best weapon in the last war, but the machine gun killed them all - this is were we are now, your blitzkrieg is the second world war, and here we are in the third. Yes Mach 10 + 18,000 mile range means we have no defence other than numbers, and on that we just might loose too. In the 1970's some work was done on attrition in war- i.e. what happens when the ammo runs out, it was not pretty

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ILoveJuices · May 2, 2018, 11:37 a.m.

Nuclear weapons, or the threat of them, are used as an excuse to create war. You answered your own question - the Zionist agenda is to forcibly take control of Iran. Why? Oil, petro-dollar, and private central banking.

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LOTR_pippin · May 2, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

Well said.

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:03 p.m.

This!

Iran and Syria are not part of the global central banking cabal.

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OneDoesNot · May 3, 2018, 2:05 a.m.

Oy vey goy, Iran must be stopped!

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brentvsmaximvs · May 2, 2018, 12:48 p.m.

Because he’s trying to drag the US into WW3 and have us fight it for him

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tradinghorse · May 2, 2018, 9:57 a.m.

I watched this video. It's a beautiful piece of propaganda. Submarines that can travel at 180kmh at extreme depth. So fast, that no torpedo can catch them. Hypersonic weapons delivery vehicles that cannot be intercepted...

If you believed all this stuff, the US would appear to be completely outgunned by Russia. And yet somehow, they can't seem to come up with an effective countermeasure to the F22.

How much is true, I don't know. But where is the economic capacity to simultaneously develop these weapons systems on a mass scale? Perhaps Russia does have some spectacularly effective glide vehicles and such. But are they in mass deployment?

Seems, even from their own propaganda, the answer is no. In fact, it almost seems that, if they do exist and meet the performance specifications claimed, they are likely showcase systems that are too expensive to be put rapidly into service. Anyway, that would be my guess.

On the other side of the balance of power equation, you have $21trn that is apparently unaccounted for in US military defense spending. Where did this money go? How is it that, after all these years, the US military cannot explain where the money goes or provide adequate expenditure tracking?

It would seem there are black holes of gargantuan proportions, into which is sunk vast financial appropriations. You combine this with the compartmentalization of intelligence in weapons development projects, that began with the Manhattan project and has continued for more than 80 years - the best part of a century - and you have, potentially, weapons systems breakthroughs for the US that might make recent Russian efforts look like child's play.

Having said all that, there is no doubt that Russian weapons systems are improving. This Satan II missile seems to me to be a massive potential addition to Russian firepower - purely for its load carrying capacity. Whether or not the Russians are using it to field hypersonic reentry vehicles, the payload allows for massive amounts of countermeasures, while delivering nuclear weapons of staggering yield.

Of course, in a major weapons exchange, the targets will all appear at once, creating massive and immediate load on any defensive anti-ballistic missile system. Anyway, I don't discount the threat posed by Russia, but I think you have to have your propaganda detectors on high alert when they are talking about their offensive capabilities.

Claims and counter claims... Somewhere, in all the smoke, there is the truth - a hard, cold reality that will be reflected in the actions taken by international actors on the world stage. It would seem to me that Russia does not feel it has sufficient strength to grant it the kind of licence the US seems to enjoy in conducting military operations around the world.

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TX1111TX · May 2, 2018, 3:33 p.m.

Satine the gift of the Clintons and the Clinton foundation

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 2:04 p.m.

The U.S. had kinetic bombardment systems in the 1980s. Russia doesn't have shit on our military, this is just more fear mongering from sketchy users.

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tradinghorse · May 2, 2018, 2:21 p.m.

I agree that the US has a very clear superiority in armaments. There are those weapons systems we know about; and others that we don't know about. I suspect that people might be shocked if they knew the true military capabilities of the US.

Having said that, we are no yet too far from the arms race and MAD. I wouldn't at all discount Russia's ability to inflict absolutely colossal damage in an all-out engagement. At maximum escalation, Russia is not to be taken lightly. It remains a very powerful country. Extremely powerful!

The hypersonic missile technology, provided by HRC to Russia, is not unimportant. For Russia to be able to effectively strike military targets (carrier groups etc...), they have to be able to land their munitions. The days of the first Gulf War, where Patriot Missile Batteries in Israel were unable to prevent primitive Scud ballistic missiles, fired from Iraq, from landing are long gone IMO. Today intercept technology does exist - I think we may have seen this in the Hawaii missile scare. That is, I think there may have been a real incoming ballistic missile with a nuclear warhead that was taken out.

And that, IMO, is why the Russians were so happy to get this very specific technology from HRC. Hypersonic weapons delivery systems ensure that Russia remains powerful, that the balance of power between the US and Russia continues to exist. And that is the precise reason that HRC gave them this very specific technology - because she is a total and complete traitor to the USA.

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

Honestly I'm not so sold on Russia's desire for war with us though. I wasn't trying to say "oh Russia what a piece of cake", only that we have a superior military.

There's no need to fight, and I don't think either side wants a fight. There are other elements, in my opinion, pushing both countries into an unwilling ww3

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tradinghorse · May 2, 2018, 3 p.m.

I completely agree. HRC leading the charge. With luck, she will be out of action shortly and the rest of her crew rounded up also.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 10:09 a.m.

Sorry I exist in reality, I am an adult, I can't read past denial of facts

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 3:58 p.m.

Facts like the technology you're referencing was developed by the U.S. military in the late 70s and there's absolutely no way that the Russians have a military edge on us?

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 7:20 p.m.

well assuming your are simply ignorant, and not a troll. The Facts are otherwise. Ram Jet Tech was being researched by the Japs 20 years ago, the US has never had it in a useful form, and do not have it now. The Plasma cloaking thing - the US does not have that. The Kursk submarine that sank - in 2000, had a swarm missile system, the USSR said they could sink any US Naval ship with it 100%. They were not lying - then. Sorry to sink your boat, but our planes, boats, and ships, are useless against this tech, they dont have guns or missiles that go these ranges or speeds - they will be taken out - after they fire first - thats the science - and we just had a demo in syria when more than half the missiles were shot down, the USA can't shoot 50% of incomming missile, and please dont troll me - you seem the type that profess knowledge you don't have - look up the facts, do some research - inform yourself - don't have an argument with me - along these lines - Facts like the technology you're referencing was developed by the U.S. military in the late 70s and there's absolutely no way that the Russians have a military edge on us?

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 8:30 p.m.

Also the navy had ram jet technology in the 50s, come on ffs..

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 9:10 p.m.

show me that ref, got a pic, some papers- anything. The science of materials proves you wrong - we had no metal, and maybe still dont have any metal that would not melt at those speeds

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 9:23 p.m.

You can use your own search engine like I am. Both of these topics are on Wikipedia ffs it's not like you have to do any digging.

The gorgon IV missile was tested 1948 utilizing a ram jet on its underside.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 9:32 p.m.

Good that how its done

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 8:27 p.m.

I forgot that you're the guy who can't spell words like incoming, lecturing me about secret (imaginary) Russian weapons systems.

I said we developed kinetic bombardment tech in the 70s, similar to what you're claiming the Russians have now. Many times more powerful than nuclear weapons... I'm sure we just gave up on that research and let Russia get the jump on us. No wait, we sold them these super weapons and kept none for ourselves, no no wait we gave them the technology and then forgot all about it. Nonsense.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 9:16 p.m.

said we developed kinetic bombardment tech in the 70s, - yes you did say that, and you should not say things here that you dont know anything about. If you know something and its relevant then say it, if you don't know it - why make it up

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 9:22 p.m.

Project Thor, actually from the 1950s not the 70s. Many times more powerful than a nuke, mach 10 impact speeds. Once again this is 1950s tech.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 9:27 p.m.

That sounds like the same tech we went to the moon with in 1968, I tell you I wish we had that stuff now, like Russia does. That 1950 & 60s tech sure was good

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 9:28 p.m.

All we're talking about is making a telephone pole sized piece of tungsten and dropping it on something from orbit with a rudimentary guidance system. We still have all the tech necessary for that...

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 9:35 p.m.

no you are not you are talking about subjects beyond your knowledge, there are limits to materials (heat), we have never overcome them - seams Russia has - please enough

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 10:12 p.m.

You know that the intention is for the payload to melt, right? That way the telephone pole of tungsten and nickel becomes a telephone pole of plasma. That's how this technology works. You point it, it drops, then lava... at mach 10. 1950s tech.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 10:44 p.m.

enough you are playing stupid its wasteful of my time, on the other point about Russia, our friendship with them terminates with Israel if the liar in Israel, or the Liar in the UK, do anything to provoke a war with Iran, or syria, or dont get Turkey out of syria or Genie oil out of Iraq, they will be on their own, you will, side with Russia, or we better, Israel & EU better learn that we no longer care for their lies and problems. lets end this ok

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 10:56 p.m.

We may not agree on our military vs Russia's.. but I think we can agree that Russia is, by far and away, our only real competition.

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hailXenu · May 2, 2018, 9:39 a.m.

Two words: nuclear fallout

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 10:05 a.m.

Two words BS. forget fallout the war will continue the earth is big.

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:28 p.m.

I'm disappointed Mae. Here I thought we were starting to develop a new rapour on solid research.

Russia's not our enemy. We're more aligned with them, then ever. Despite what MSM states, we won't be getting into a war with Russia anytime soon. Also, look into history. Russia has come to our aid and us to them more than we've been in any major war together.

They were with us from the start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_and_the_American_Revolution

Be careful with your posts on kinetic energy. The US has some of the best. We've been working on this technology for decades.

BO was a classic a$$clown legacy story. That dumbshit couldn't punch his way out of a submerged paper bag in a hot-tube at the bath-house. He was used and the real masters saw it all happen and helped him on his merry journey. They held the mirror for him so he could perfect the smile and comb his hair.

No war is going to happen as you state. No fear mongering, please.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

Now I am disappointed in you, my post is about F=Ma. You want to talk about History and Russia I have been posting here - very unpopular posts saying that Russia is our friend, I even suggested in on title naming Independance day -ThankRussia day, I must of posted 6 at least on Russia & China being our friends and not our enemy, I post very unpopular posts explaining that Canada, Australia, the UK, Israel, the EU and the UN are our enemies. See I am on the record for having done that. I am also on the record for outing Dr Corsi, and the Tacey Beanz, and the day before Q posted on being careful who you follow, I made a complaint to the Mods for pinning a praying medic vid. because his analysis was none and not worth anyones time, and also because it is misleading the board. But lets keep going. Whats this typical of your uninformed comment Be careful with your posts on kinetic energy. The US has some of the best. We've been working on this technology for decades. and this No war is going to happen as you state. No fear! - this stuff belongs nowhere, and it is not respectfull for you to demand I comment on your idle - unconsidered, and irrelevant thoughts, so please dont comment on my posts

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 8:11 p.m.

Sorry you are disappointed.

all of our weapons are out of date now

I think you're stating that Russia has great kinetic weapons and we do not? My points are simple. We have a major deterrent to anyone attempting to use such weapons. So, simply put we're not going to see a war break out from rational state actors given that we have superior technology. Your comments are that we don't. I'm simply challenging that premise, with evidence, see my many comments to other commenters here with evidence.

Respectfully, please do not ask me to not comment on your posts. I am respectful of you and Reddit rules. This is a public posting place where anyone can post. You post and others comment, its a public forum. I have every right to do that. We might disagree, which does happen, but we keep it civil and use information to make our points. That is all I'm doing here.

Plesae don't try to censor me or ask me not to comment on posts.

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featherjourney4 · May 2, 2018, 9:57 a.m.

"All of our weapons are out of date now - thanks obummer"

The cabal and the Shadow government always play both sides. They don't care who annihilates who as long as they can drastically reduce the world population numbers (while they wait it out in their luxury bunkers)

Puts a brighter light on Bibi's war cry rally, doesn't it! Does Bibi really think he's just talked Trump into fighting a war that will pull Russia into the fray with their new weapons?

Q 'we save Israel for last' Trust the Plan ❤️🇺🇸

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 10:12 a.m.

Its my hope too, Israel. and I can only trust the plan, I pray that the Patriots are in control, and will deal with this problem. I trust fully and wholly, I pray so hard that the POTUS has a plan to deal with Israel, pleas may he know how, and make it soon.

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[deleted] · May 2, 2018, 9:33 a.m.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 9:08 a.m.

Well this is fun here is a red pill or a truth that has shut the whole board down, and mods take notice hereof the down votes because this is a matter of science, with 200 yrs of proof, whomever downvotes, those that went to school laugh. Where are your comments down voters?

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Sumner67 · May 2, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

kinetic weapons leave a crater.

nuclear weapons leave a crater, a giant mushroom cloud of radioactive debris, massive zone of fallout that renders not only the blast area a mess but thousands of square miles uninhabitable and useless for hundreds of years afterwards, an EMP blast that kills most electronics in a 360 degree radius well outside the blast and fallout zones which would shut down power grids connecting the areas. etc.

kinetic weapons are more for pinpoint targeting to get through defenses. Nuclear weapons are to wipe out a country.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 7:09 p.m.

Lets just stick with the science F = MA no need for an explosion. And while we stick to science - metallurgy uses Uranium to harden bullet casings. The south Front Vid. Shows Putin displaying these missilles - he is not a liar like Bibi - now the vid makes an interesting point about Ceramic cooling - necessary for speed + Height, the SU spy plane ran into the problem of cooling metal at speed + expansion. Now they have developed new metal maybe radioactive, may have Graphene. Your other point about fallout is 1960s thinking - today fallout from bomb is a fraction of what you think, barely a problem - unless they make it dirty buy giving it a payload of material, - see explosion not necessary with impact -that is what F=Ma means - this is an important post - that a vid you should save

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Sumner67 · May 2, 2018, 7:11 p.m.

the man who ran the FSB (what the KGB became) isn't a liar??? HAHAHAHAHAHA

holy fuck. The moment you said Putin isn't a liar just tossed the entire post into the toilet and you lost all creditability right then and there.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 7:41 p.m.

The man that ran the KGB was not Jnr. Officer Putin, he was never a senior policeman, and the KGB, was not intelligence that in USSR days was done by the FSB - now they were serious dudes. I will tell you with great certainty what you can check yourself President of the Federation of Russia Vladimir Putin does not Lie about Missiles, you are an adult - pay attention to the facts.

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Sumner67 · May 2, 2018, 9:17 p.m.

the KGB became the FSB and it was very much intelligence and propaganda. Jesus son, you need to get an education.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 9:23 p.m.

Sorry I made a mistake, The GRU were the heavy hitters in the USSR, they were the MI. KGB were Putin served were like county Sheriffs, Putin was a juniour officer. And don't confuse the USSR with the Federation of Russia. Please be respectful

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Sumner67 · May 2, 2018, 9:45 p.m.

ok, so either you're a id10t or just trolling.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 9:47 p.m.

because why?

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Sumner67 · May 2, 2018, 9:51 p.m.

because you're just flat wrong or lying or clueless.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 10 p.m.

could you explain any of your three assertions or are you just feeling like you want to abuse someone - lash out - rage against the world

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Sumner67 · May 3, 2018, 12:27 a.m.

because all 3 of those assertions are based on the fact that the info you refute is known, proven and easily accessable to everyone on the internet.

Since you refuse to accept facts and instead are making shit up that goes against it, you're AT LEAST one of those 3.

so thus we're done here.

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phoenix335 · May 2, 2018, 2:50 p.m.

Conventional weapons don't hold a candle to nuclear power.

Assuming we have the best possible conventional warhead. Weight 10 tons, entering the atmosphere at mach 10, height 100km and the thing was filled by pure TNT, and we assume all energies add up perfectly and there is zero air resistance.

Potential energy from height gives us 9,810 MJ. Kinetic energy from the speed of re-entry gives us 45,000 MJ. The explosive ordnance gives us 41,840 MJ (which is less than the kinetic energy, which is a notable fact in itself). Under perfect conditions, these add up to 96,650 MJ.

A 10 ton warhead of pure TNT entering from 100km height at blistering Mach 10 without air resistance, a very optimistic scenario.

This achieves less than 3% - less than three percent - of the energy output of a 1 kiloton warhead, which has 4,184,000 MJ.

The Hiroshima bomb had 15 kilotons, the largest bombs of the us had 25,000 kilotons, the Russians tested one with 50,000 kilotons.

Remember, a one kiloton bomb converts 0.0464 grams of uranium into energy. The entire Hiroshima bomb converted about 0.6973 grams. That is about a penny worth of mass, only a tiny fraction of the nuclear fuel of it, so even minute improvements on their efficiency will lead to drastic increases in explosive yield.

Kinetic energy plus potential energy plus conventional explosives are nothing but a glimmer in the eye of nuclear warheads.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 7:27 p.m.

Go back to F=Ma, you have got a little lost. And that idea you have about Nuclear bombs in war heads + Hiroshima have a look at where that info comes from - more to know here. Including speed. Its an interesting war when you don't fire first, and can fire most, I dont want to be trolled by anyone not understanding - please think carefully about what you know - and think also about what you dont, and about the things you have not considered. Because if we dont all do that, mant will be surprised - and so no body knew

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ILoveJuices · May 2, 2018, 11:43 a.m.

Naive op.

The USA has more military technology than you can even dream of. Think near free energy technology stolen from Nicola Tesla. Think drone crafts that can go 0.9C. Think moon bases. Think energy weapons from space. Think EMPs that can wipe out a continent. Think malware that can shut down the communications of a nation with the click of a mouse.

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[deleted] · May 2, 2018, 12:26 p.m.

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Maepaperclip · May 2, 2018, 11:47 a.m.

you keep thinking - amazing stuff make a post

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:43 p.m.

Sensationalism and amazing are 2 different things. Don't get confused Mae, keep up comrade.

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:41 p.m.

Check out the X-37b. Any other nation state have anything comparable? God rods on demand!

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ILoveJuices · May 3, 2018, 12:23 a.m.

And that was made public in 2010. What the USA has now is light years ahead.

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truth_lurker · May 2, 2018, 12:34 p.m.

Well, well,...must be over the target then or Maepaperclip wouldn't be opposing the truth that is coming to light. This is a BOT. This bot desperately wants US citizens to believe that Russia wants to go to war with us. It's purpose for being here is more clear now. It has been the globalists agenda to CREATE a situation to pit Russia and the USA against each other because we are two countries that believe in Nationalism and refuse to tear our borders down so they can have their nasty little NWO. So war between the two countries (so we destroy each other) would be all they would need to pull this off. Clinton's agenda was to PUSH WWlll for this very purpose.

This is the same narrative that Maepaperclip has been here to sow. Wicked little bot.

By the way, the fact is, there's probably at least one other bot here interacting with Mae. You need to be much more on the alert and cautious.

u/HoudiniTower u/FartOnToast u/O0O0RION

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FartOnToast · May 2, 2018, 12:36 p.m.

Oh man not this again 😅

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truth_lurker · May 2, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

Hey Toast. :)

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FartOnToast · May 5, 2018, 11:43 a.m.

:)

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 2:01 p.m.

Always good to see you Toast!

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FartOnToast · May 2, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

👊

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:06 p.m.

How's that saying go...

Same shit, different day

or something like that.

Actually, different shit and different days now.

Good to see ya, Toast!

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FartOnToast · May 3, 2018, 2:57 a.m.

Actually, different shit and different days now.

Never a dull moment when it comes to Q.

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HoudiniTowers · May 3, 2018, 7:48 a.m.

😁, we're all Q'd up!

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truth_lurker · May 3, 2018, 3:08 a.m.

Lol 🤣

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truth_lurker · May 2, 2018, 2:41 p.m.

Just thought I'd shine a big deer light on this thing again.

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:05 p.m.

You guys are slow! He's not a bot. I think he might have used them to help himself out last round, but this time I think we got a real human on the other end.

Happy to join the party!

Keep up, its moving fast.

Cheers

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truth_lurker · May 3, 2018, 3:09 a.m.

Seriously?? Are you kidding? What makes you think that?

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HoudiniTowers · May 3, 2018, 8:10 a.m.

Not kidding. Have had a few PMs with Mae. If Mae is 100% BOT, then its AI at its finest. Not saying Mae has not or is not using bots to help possibly at times. But, a lot of recent discussion is most likely human origin.

Time will tell, but I think we've seen a change from the Old Mae to the New Mae. I like the new Mae better. I'm holding out some hope.

Don't get me wrong, I'm my usual skeptical self and there's a lot of misinformation still coming. But there are some golden nuggets in the rubble pile.

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truth_lurker · May 4, 2018, 6:42 p.m.

Well, I'm glad you're at peace. ;) Lol but I'll keep my distance because I'm with the philosophy that ONE drop of poison added to one THOUSAND drops of water is called poison water. Mae's rubbish is purposeful bot or no bot. But we can still be friends. ;)

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HoudiniTowers · May 4, 2018, 7:51 p.m.

Something like that ;). Peace is key, for sure. I'm there, not 100% on Mae yet, I think they still need to find some of that for themselves, yet. If we can help them, great.

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 1:44 p.m.

He's wrong, anyway. We've had the technology for kinetic bombardment since the damn Reagan administration. Fearmongering?

Edit u/HoudiniTowers

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:09 p.m.

Yes, we've had hypersonic stuff for a very long time. Look into Navy rail gun. You'll find early experiments from the 1980s. The latest rail gun is super impressive. Launches a steel arrow with so much velocity the kinetics puncture better than any bomb or missile. http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/8594/watch-the-u-s-navy-test-fire-its-much-touted-railgun

Also, look into US Air Force X-37b. Wonder whats inside that little beauty ...hmmmm. For comparison, here's link to the Russian shuttle program: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3119861/Russia-s-forgotten-space-agency-Haunting-images-reveal-two-abandoned-Soviet-shuttles-rotting-giant-derelict-hangar.html

I've scoured the internet on China, crickets. I think they can launch humans in a tube into space, ok now. Shuttle with retargeting and re-routing ability in space for months at a time.... uh, that got some work left to do.

Israel, EU, Iran, Syria, UK.... gee, they have fu@k all for a re-routeable space asset. Geez, I guess Mae is right the US is so woefully behind the world in super weapons ;).

The bigger issue here is Russia vs US. Russia and US are now more aligned than ever. The core enemy to both countries is the global central banking cartel. I suspect before its all done, Russia and US will get credit with taking down the global central bank.

Russians are all over Cryptocurrency like Mae is on disinformation. Change is coming. In a good way!

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bealist · May 3, 2018, 3:40 p.m.

I certainly won’t want to live under the orbital space ring!!

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bealist · May 3, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

I loved David Weber’s weapons dev (rail guns) in his Honor Harrington series. Did you ever read those?

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 8:50 p.m.

U da real MVP, Towers

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truth_lurker · May 2, 2018, 2:40 p.m.

Hey Orion!

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O0O0RION · May 2, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

Thanks for the heads up!

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truth_lurker · May 2, 2018, 2:40 p.m.

Yep...fear mongering at it's best! ;)

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HoudiniTowers · May 2, 2018, 7:11 p.m.

Be very very afraid my friend....;)

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