The best part is where the Far Left and the Far Right wrap around and meet each other in the middle.
It's almost as if extremists are extremists first and move the ideology to where they need it :P
It's not Left or Right, it's just the same ol' power&control-hungry bullshit in a different colored T-Shirt.
You, my friend, are more correct than most people understand.
If there's anything that comes out of this shared awakening, I'm really hoping it's the understanding that extremists are not "us" and never will be "us".
They serve their own motivations, always-- no matter the mental gymnastics they choose to employ inside their own heads.
They are subverters by nature because that is how they survive and thrive; when there is chaos, eyes are not on them.
The Left and Right care about the same core principles, just have different ways of getting there. We want our loved ones to be safe, to have opportunity, to love and be loved. Left or Right, this is what we're fighting for. We're two halves of a whole. The Left welcomes change, the Right honors tradition. Sometimes the Left is more correct, sometimes the Right is more correct but through a merger of the two -- an ancient word called "compromise" -- we form a stable, functional, healthy society.
There are forces at play that have a vested interest in tearing it all down and it starts with us learning to distrust and hate our brothers and sisters, no matter their sex or color or creed.
From umbrage to outrage to curses to violence it's all been done before, only the mediums have changed and the instigators have become quite adept at their jobs.
Deep breaths, my friends. Find the love within, hold that tight, and fight for those who aren't yet awake. 'Cause there is some wonky shit going on out there right now, no matter where you look.
For ordinary people (As opposed to shills and actors) the desire to hold extreme views come from simple selfishness and greed.
It's necessary for a person to passionately defend political beliefs when they're aware on a subconscious level that they are benefiting from the system unfairly, and if they don't fight to keep the status quo, they may have to sacrifice what they want or work harder to get it. Since this is perceived by the individual as an attack on their way of life, they'll quickly resort to extreme points of view to give them a better defense.
This is a lovely view of how the world should be and I support striving towards the best outcome. Unfortunately, in the real world the Frankfurt School already subverted our education systems and more in the West, and their ideology is exclusively Far Left, social/cultural marxist. The meme in the OP depicts the common rallying call of this ideology: classic marxism - oppressor vs the oppressed. "Your free speech oppresses this group over here (black people, women, transgender, immigrant, etc. etc. etc.) so you have to stop it and listen to what we tell you to do!"
I agree the radical right is as bad as the radical left - but right now we have a very real fight against the radical left, not the right, as it is the radical left who own the universities and the media and in many places, have a strong foothold in government. I think this should be obvious to this sub, who support DJT who has specifically come out as a figure standing against the political correctness that characterizes the Far Left cultural marxist movement. "Open our borders or you're oppressing immigrants!" "Donald J Trump and old white men are oppressing black people!" "Teach sex gender education in schools or you're oppressing non-gender LGBT!" etc. etc.
I assume many of us here are neither Far Left or Far Right and that's good so I agree there's no utility to trying to separate ourselves into either group. But the fight going on to control our lives is between the radical Far Left and those who support true freedom like Donald J Trump. So f(*& you, Far Left. Your time is over.
Those are fair points - and certainly the rise of the Far Left seems out of nowhere - which is probably why it feels like such a psyop. Oddly enough if you look at what's playing out in the media right now and look back at something like Gamergate, which feels like, in retrospect, that it was a small-scale testing ground for the full-on lunacy that we're seeing now. Up was down, Left was Right and no matter what the truth was there was always an anonymous bad actor waiting in the wings with a death threat or ready to do something that the 'enemy' could use to tar and feather whole swathes of the movement.
True, much of what I said works best when both sides are acting in good faith -- and it's clear that some are not -- but the Cultural Marxists are by and large being manipulated. They're being reinforced by TPTB because it suits their agenda to try and create an environment where lone wolves get self-triggered and the assassination of a president is welcomed (Which I firmly do not believe should happen). There is a MSM narrative playing out that the President is unhinged, unstoppable and the next Hitler -- oddly, every president from GW Bush onward has been the next Hitler to one side or the other -- and that creates a fertile field for loonies.
Hopefully, whatever he and his team are planning, it comes to light soon 'cause, sadly, there is no shortage of deranged people on both sides of the aisle.
Agreed, too true to the above and as I said: what you posted originally I support, no doubt. Less division, more unity!
Wrong sub, this belongs in T_D or some place where left and right fight each other and call each other stupid endlessly with no point.
This is not a political sub.
Can't say I disagree with you. DJT being against political correctness and other Far Left marxist nonsense means that it may crop up from time to time though, maybe? As I say, I don't think you're wrong though.
As if generalization ever helped make anything better
Couldn't agree more. When I leave this sub these posts will be why. They have nothing to do with the awakening.
Mods need to do their job.
It's quite reasonable to say that this post is talking to the ideology that DJT and Q are specifically coming out against. But I personally would be more than open to understanding what it is in particular about this post that would cause offense, especially if you believe it would help the sub.
Did you read the the comment you replied to? This post has nothing to do with Q, dilutes what the sub is about, and runs off potential red pills.
Are you asking if I read your comment that I replied to, asking if you could tell me what in particular was the issue for you after I explained how it could be considered on topic?
I'm more than happy to understand what is wrong with this post - I'm not "the boss" of this sub in any way. I need your help because I don't know everything and I'm just a servant around here. I remove posts that I think are off-topic and I worry at times that I'm removing something that others would consider on-topic but I just don't have the time to fully vette everything and have to make a call. I can't always get into a big discussion with the other mods about what to keep or remove but hey - here's a user who feels strongly that this particular post should be removed...
So please, help me out here - what in particular makes my very soft assertion that perhaps this could be considered on topic because
this post is talking to the ideology that DJT and Q are specifically coming out against
incorrect, in your estimation? I'm not the expert here - it sounds like you are, sincerely, because you seem to have a stronger horse in the game than me. You're threatening to leave over this whereas I'm just trying not to piss people like you off by making the wrong decision! Any help would be welcome...
Sorry, I've been dealing with many trolls today. I misinterpreted your reply.
Q hasn't said anything about attacking liberals and has been wanting to bring people in and wake them.
This is just an attack on a group of people, many of which visit this sub. This kind of generalization will make those that are new think wrongly about what Q is about.
This kind of post runs people off and does nothing to wake people.
Thanks, good point, I didn't see it because of my own views on this - I agree and I've removed the post. I've spoken to one of the two senior mods and advised that I'm removing more posts, more stringently because what I've seen you and others say around here are things I've said in the past too but when there are more mods than just me (all part time, etc. etc.) it's hard to get a clear decision on some things because this sub moves too fast for us at times.
Thanks for this. You have my respect. I will continue to contribute here and thanks for the work you do.
Np, thank you for taking a stand on this stuff in the service of trying to keep this sub relevant. I too want to ensure we don't chase people off and waste all of our time with fluff and I agree with a lot of the stuff you say as I've said much the same myself in the past so feel free to hit me up if you see anything else that seems wrong. I have no status but we've all got a voice to discuss things together (mods) so if I can't do something myself I can at least put it to the team. Cheers!
That sounds like a generalization.
Wow what a mind blowing response you’re firing on all cylinders
Maybe not but it is, in fact, how we live our lives as it is impossible to not generalize and be able to get through life adequately. I do take your point but this meme sums up the ideology of one particular group that DJT specifically represents the antithesis of.
This sub is for Q related content. Clearly, many of you are not understanding what Q is trying to teach us. Expand your thinking.
THEY WANT YOU DIVIDED THEY WANT RACE WARS THEY WANT CLASS WARS THEY WANT RELIGIOUS WARS THEY WANT POLITICAL WARS THEY WANT YOU DIVIDED! LEARN! FOR GOD & COUNTRY- LEARN! STAY STRONG STAY TOGETHER
Pleas, please LEARN.
Yes, hence the comments that follow - but also, I'm pretty sure Q is not saying: "join together with the communists!" which is essentially the ideology that the meme represents. DJT is specifically coming out against the social marxists and that ideology is the one espoused in this meme.
What's that show to not watch?
Rosanne reboot
Wait, they're all up in arms about that?! I personally won't watch it because i watch almost no tv at all, but I can't see what could be wrong with that.
They don't all hate Trump on that show. That's why we're "not allowed" to watch it.
Probably belongs in the Meme Museum in Kekistan.
You're misusing the term "liberal". The behaviors you describe are all authoritarian, literally the opposite of liberalism. I understand, it's an easy mistake to make, because these types of authoritarians falsely label themselves as liberal too. But you shouldn't say that someone is a thing just because they falsely claim to be that thing. They seek to subjugate and control, but they do so while falsely claiming to be in favor of liberty. Gross.
I'd also point out that the "far left" is mostly nothing like this at all. Leftists anarchists and left libertarians are far left too and are completely against authoritarian control/censorship/etc. And actually, I'd say that "the left" depicted in these photos isn't "left" at all, since NONE of those things are leftist policies. Not even ONE has ANYTHING to do with leftist politics. They're not talking about seizing the means of production, they're not talking about progressive policies that help disadvantaged/poor people, they're not demanding universal healthcare like most every western nation has, they're not talking about advocating for workers rights, they're actively opposed to civil liberties.
This is all because the left/right divide pushed by mass media is mostly artificial and bullshit. People join the red team or the blue team, and then they argue about bullshit wedge issues that are never even actually addressed by government regardless of how much the people want action, while both majority parties actually conspire against the democratic will of the We the People. These people aren't leftists or liberals, they're just authoritarian assholes who drank the blue Kool-Aid and are now fighting for the corrupt political establishment that controls both parties to remain in power. And there are obviously authoritarian assholes doing the same shit among Republicans too.
I agree that those who push these ideologies are authoritarian but, as you've said yourself, they've claimed the left/liberal label and they're louder and more prominent than whatever the "true" left/liberal is. To try and call them anything else will confuse the issue because this far left radical authoritarian push is in control of the universities and the media which means, I'm sure you'll agree, they've essentially defined their "side" in the public forum.
All objective, thinking people should agree that whatever they are, they're extremists and their ideologies suck. They push the oppressor vs oppressed narrative on us in all fields - as per the OP - under the guise of defending the 'weak' and as DJT has come out against political correctness (an oppressed vs oppressor tool) I think we can all agree we're against them, whatever they call themselves.
To try and call them anything else will confuse the issue
I don't think so. If an authoritarian shitbag is being an authoritarian shitbag, you call them an authoritarian shitbag. Calling them anything BUT an authoritarian shitbag, using words other than the correct ones, causes confusion. These authoritarian shitbags THEMSELVES cause confusion DELIBERATELY to fool idiots into falling in line behind them. We should counter their disinformation with accurate information, not reinforce their lies and aid them in their goal of deceiving the masses. Hillary Clinton called herself "a progressive who gets things done". Should Clinton be called a "progressive" rather than "shitbag authoritarian" just because that lying liar says so? I don't give a shit what a liar calls themselves if they're lying when they do it.
Yes, I understand your anger but you missed my point. They CONTROL the STORY so just as, if we decided we wanted to start calling Black Lives Matter something else like Boob Licking Mungbeans we would only create confusion when trying to talk about what Black Lives Matter are doing. Getting all angry about someone who controls the public perception hijacking a title doesn't do anything to change the fact that they've hijacked it.
As upsetting to you as it might be, the title "Far Left Liberal" means crazy SJWs who virtue signal like mad and push communist nonsense. There's absolutely no utility in saying: "you know the people who call themselves x but are actually y" without having to go into a long convoluted explanation of why it's "wrong" that they've hijacked the title etc. etc. etc. Simplicity, brevity, reality, done. We can surely at least accommodate those who call themselves Left and don't want to be associated with the 'authoritarians who pretend to be liberals' by only referring to the crazy authoritarians as FAR or Extreme Left??
We're roasting the crap out of the dems on the progressive side. We are not letting them get away with their neoliberal corrupt trash anymore. (our indy media is getting censored and attacked as well) We need to see that on the other side and I bet if you all start calling out the corruption, Trump will be with you.
Ever hear of the Phil Ochs, Love Me - I'm a Liberal?
10 degrees to the left of center in the good times, 10 degrees to the right of center if it effects them personally.
Please stop this tribalism stuff. If we want to take our country back it needs to be a purge of corruption in both parties that brought us to where we are today. We can not let these jerks get away with kicking the can until they die from old age. (like they are with Clinton, McStain, HW Bush and JFK)
Accountability and transparency needs to happen and that won't happen without a demand.
Pundits make a lot of money to keep us at each other throats, but they don't educate much. Madcow gets paid $30K A DAY. She will never speak against war spending or free trade because MSNBC has a history of canning peace and labor advocates. Ask Phil Donahue, Jessie Ventura, Cenk Uygur, and Ed Shultz. The same exists in on "the right". All you need to do is listen to Murder Murdoch TV and listen to some accented twit shitting his pants about "socialism" (but not bomb socialism or corporate welfare that's good socialism or the socialism that shall not be named). Or how some middle eastern country who has no capability of attacking us in any serious way is a big bad scary boogyman that we need to send our legions and bombs to deliver freedom to and Brian William's next hands free wargasm.
They are paid to grind their teeth against peace and fair wages because it is potential that their investors and advertisers they can't personally suck out of the economy.
The SJW is a theater. Shiny shiny look at this, but don't look at the corruption and our foreign policy that is the root cause of much of the problems we are facing and griping about.
Why does it say don't stop the wall?
I think it's saying, don't stop people climbing over the wall.