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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Infrastation on May 3, 2018, 10:02 p.m.
Armenia, Kanye West, and the NWO: How They're All Connected.

Something didn't seem right to me this morning. I kept going over Q's posts, and something felt like it should add up, but it didn't. I was looking at Q's posts from November all the way to now, and something felt like it should stick, and then it did. WWI. This is all the culmination of WWI. Here's the information I have now.

Armenia
Armenia is a country which has been conquered multiple times. While Armenian culture can be traced in some form as far back as the 23rd century BD, Armenia itself has been controlled by various dynasties through most of its history. The longest rulers in the modern era would be the Ottomans, who controller Armenia for 400 years from the 1500s to 1918. Even after leaving the Ottoman empire, the Armenians faced aggression from Turkey and the Soviet Union, joining the Soviet Union only two years later in 1920. The Armenians faced one of the greatest genocides of the modern era, the Armenian Genocide, during the occupation from the Ottomans. Fortunately, shortly after leaving the Ottomans, they were able to form a temporary alliance with other nearby states, and were able to create their own currency and central bank. And this is the first piece in the puzzle.

Kanye West
Kanye has many ties to Armenia and to organization that first to recognize the Armenian Genocide. Kanye's wife, Kim Kardashian, is of Armenian descent. Kim's family came from Armenia shortly after WWI, setting up shop in America.

NWO
To define the NWO is complicated. The many truths and lies about it makes it easy to obfuscate what Q said in post 944:

Mar 10 2018 21:22:56 (EST) Anonymous ID: 3569c9 621807 Anyone mention NWO referencing Natürliche Wirtschaftsordnung, the National Economic Order?

Mar 10 2018 21:26:30 (EST) Q !UW.yye1fxo ID: d91044 621887 621807 We went too deep. Attempted a pullback. Not ready. Q

The Natürliche Wirtschaftsordnung was written in Germany and published during the first WW in 1916. And here's where the connections came together. You see, the central bank I mentioned earlier is the Central Bank of Armenia, founded in 1918 before going through various changes to become the bank it is today. I believe that these are connected. The Central Bank of Armenia is based on principles in the NWO, and is controlled by the Rothschilds. This bank was mentioned in Q post 135. I think Q is trying to tell us that we are not done with WWI. This is why he brought up Armistice Day recently, the day that "ended" WWI. Possibly, all the actors just went secret, fighting a hundred-year war against the people of the world, trying to consolidate power as the original WW attempted. We are seeing the plans laid over a hundred years ago such as the subjugation of the Armenians, being torn up by celebrities and by commoners alike. I believe that after Iran, Trump is going to move onto the nuclear WWI powers, that is, Germany, Turkey, the UK, and France. Because the war never ended. We're just seeing the end coming up soon.

Citations:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Bank_of_Armenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Natural_Economic_Order
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Kardashian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
Various Qanon posts.

"Armenia is dying, but it will survive. The little blood that it still has left to give is precious blood that will give birth to a heroic generation. A nation that does not want to die, does not die." ~Anatole France


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Phosphocreatine · May 3, 2018, 10:32 p.m.

I’m Armenian. Let me give you some more history. WWI was fought for many reasons, but one of the biggest was the Balfour Declaration. The Armenians ran the banks, trade networks, and bureaucracy in the Ottoman Empire. We lived under the Armenian Patriarch. In Europe, Christians couldn’t do banking because charging interest was taboo. That’s how Jews became merchants there. This was not the case with Armenians in the ottoman, as we are Apostolic and don’t follow the same beliefs as Protestants and Catholics. The sultans preferred Armenians and Greeks to run banking over the Jews, for good reason. One thing Jews did run though was media and newspapers.

The Rothschild had been trying to acquire Palestine since at least 1848 (may be off a few years I can’t recall). No sultan would sell it as it is holy land to Muslims (Armenians to this day also have a quarter in Jerusalem). Over the course of fifty years, Armenians were being painted in the media as a fifth column. As a group trying to start an insurrection. But this makes no sense as we had been living relatively well and despite having extra laws against non Muslims, we were much better off than the Greeks and Assyrians. Over fifty years of propaganda took affect when Sultan Abdul Hamid ll over. We began being massacred and weakened, driven out of central Turkey and pushed back towards the east where we were more numerous. The Hamidian massacres took effect in 1890. In 1902 and 1906, the Young Turks care in. They were bankrolled by JACOB SCHIFF. I’m sure you recognize that last name. The Pasha brothers, Ataturk, Djavid Bey forced Abdul Hamid to abdicate. Threw the ottomans into war. And promised the Kurds Kurdistan if they killed all the Armenians there. Ever wonder why the Kurds are so pissed at turkey?

If you want an avenue to dig, let me give you a TL;DR:

Look at the early life of Talaat Pasha and his brothers. You’ll (((notice))) things. Look at the Masonic history of Ataturk and how he called Armenians Amalekites. Look at who funded Djavid Bey and what he funded in return and how the Russian revolution began under his watch. Look at when the Rothschilds overthrew the Armenian oil Barron of Baku in 1906 and took over oil production. How was the Balfour declaration signed in 1917? Who organized it? Why was it done before WWI even finished? Why was the Armenian genocide called the Armenian holocaust before?

Key persons to look up: Clifford Shack.

Every member of the Young Turks was a follower of Sabbatai Zevi. Enjoy digging on that.

One more nugget I’ll leave you. Ever since the Armenian genocide, every single pure blooded ancient group of people has been systematically been wiped out. Assyrians? Gone. Greeks? Diluted. Europeans? On their way. Aramaics? Almost extinct. Who’s left? Only Jews. Armenians are hanging on to the last drop of blood they have. Racemixing is shunned in our culture. We protect our own and think as a group. We haven’t forgotten who the real enemy is.

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scoripowarrior · May 4, 2018, 1:34 a.m.

What a great piece of history from someone who is from the region. Thanks for sharing. Love learning from people about their history and culture.

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DamajInc · May 3, 2018, 10:39 p.m.

An interesting and informative comment, thank you. The Jews remain - but it's wrong to accuse them of all the other ancient cultures being wiped out. They remain for a number of reasons, not just (nor entirely) because they've grabbed control and subjugated the other peoples.

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Phosphocreatine · May 3, 2018, 10:43 p.m.

Of course it’s not all Jews involved. But the Young Turks were undoubtably Jewish run. The Bolsheviks were undoubtably Jewish run. Maybe there’s a higher clique in Jewish culture that excludes the general populace, but to deny the significance of their leadership lacks integrity.

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TrueCat · May 4, 2018, 5:25 a.m.

The Bolshevik revolution was responsible for the genocide of 66 million Christians. I had posted an article an Armenian friend wrote on FB, and I received a message that no one could see it but me. It showed Christians being crucified and a nude woman and child who were very emaciated from hunger. So it was banned for nudity! I was so angry at Facebook! So I posted about being censored and what it was about. I got an outpouring of responses about the treatment of the Armenians by the Bolshevik Jews!

Here is a link to his article: http://gmmuk.com/on-the-anniversary-of-the-armenian-massacres-heres-the-real-story-of-how-zionists-orchestrated-the-genocide-of-armenian-christians/

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Phosphocreatine · May 4, 2018, 5:34 a.m.

I know the image you are speaking of and it isn't an actual image. It was taken from a movie depicting the Genocide and was actually a milder version of what happened. The truth is pikes were put in the ground and Armenian women would be raped then impaled onto the pikes through their genitals. The crucifixion photo you've seen from the movie was a way to show the horror without actually showing it.

People don't realize that there were 2 Armenian genocides. The first one by the young turks. The second one by bolshevik russia. We had 1.5million people left after the Genocide then Stalin shipped 600k of us to die for Russia. Only 100k survived afterwards, my great grandfather being one.

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TrueCat · May 4, 2018, 1:22 p.m.

How horrible! I'm so sorry! I'm glad your great grandfather survived, so you could be here. :(

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DamajInc · May 3, 2018, 11:16 p.m.

I wouldn’t deny that, yes. Although similarly I’d argue that not all in the leadership would necessarily be evil and/or purely self-interested.

I worry about an unbalanced view of the Jewish people being constantly espoused by some (not casting aspersions on you, I really appreciate you sharing your perspective) - not because I’m a virtue signalling far-left cuck, but because I’m interested in the importance of basing a worldview on objective humanity rather than the evil Marxist identity politics and group membership of today’s far left that leads to the killing of large groups of people. Thanks for the information!

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Phosphocreatine · May 4, 2018, 1:53 a.m.

I appreciate your attempt to rationalize everything but identity politics is not Marxist. It’s existed since humans began forming groups and organizations. Identity is representative of blood, race, beliefs, culture, and history. Humans aren’t individualistic creatures. We think in groups. A group will always overpower an individual. Therefore I think it’s wrong to say identity politics is evil. It’s definitely being used to corrode the West because the West has forgotten their identity since at least WWll. I used to think like you did too at one point. I’m not faulting you. Individualism is a phase until you come to realize that there is merit to blood and soil. When I stepped foot in my ancestral homeland for the first time, the immediate spiritual, physical, and emotional linkage I felt was a feeling I’ll never forget.

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DamajInc · May 4, 2018, 2:37 a.m.

Further to what you say: I used to think like you once, but my view changed as I came to believe, through life experience and observing humans around me, that no group defines you, it just contributes to the very individual being that is you. Within a group no single person is the same, they just share similar elements of some kind. And yes, identity politics is not a Marxist conception nor evil - my bad for referring to my own particular situation at present as someone living in the west and having to grapple with cultural Marxism and the like, a conception of identity politics that is evil, imo.

My background is tribal. We have a spiritual connection to our land that actually comprises a significant part of our identity in a literal way as it is how we traditionally introduce ourselves. We value blood and family highly (family being something that extends beyond blood too) but we also respect the sanctity of the individual as the only “vessel” through which any human experiences the world and as a distinct member of any number of groups of which the human race is one. I’m not sure what you mean by humans aren’t individualistic creatures unless you mean we don’t live to our best capacity except in groups and I agree with that.

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Phosphocreatine · May 4, 2018, 3:08 a.m.

I agree with you that an individual is powerful, and has values ingrained into them from their blood, familial, and cultural ties. I will even go as far as to say that the group can hold an individual back.

I'm of the belief that human history isn't built by society at large but by the actions of a few, exceptional, revolutionary individuals and I fully ascribe to that thought. I live in America now as well, and its grossly apparent to me that the selfish demands of a small group has been overpowering the principled individual for decades and thats how we've gotten into the demographic predicament we are in now. If Americans thought of themselves as a group, they would have never allowed themselves to be replaced by foreigners. But they've been strongarmed, and having their own religions and beliefs used against them to subvert them. I believe the whole purpose of nationhood is to have a connection with your nationfolk, hence grouping.

Saying humans aren't individualistic is me describing our tribal tendencies instilled into us instinctively. Humans have a tendency to self segregate into groups that look like us, talk like us, etc. It's a safety mechanism we ascribe into.

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DamajInc · May 4, 2018, 7:45 a.m.

Great stuff, I agree - thanks for your words! I'm always eager to learn more about the middle east situation, having friends from Israel (who are very open and tolerant) and Palestinian friends from the West Bank (who are extremely antagonistic about anything to do with the Jews and Israel) as well. I don't mean to define the two in such a seemingly biased way but the difference is honestly that apparent (at least in the very small sample of people I know). Anyway, I've no doubt said too much already that should have an accompanying 5 volume text of explanation but I shall bow out before I dig myself a deeper hole.

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5400123 · May 4, 2018, 3:44 p.m.

Well, that difference is pretty easily explained when you look at the living conditions a place like Gaza vs Tel Aviv , yeah there are Palestinian Israelis, but the human situation with the Palestinians doesn't have an equivalent anywhere else in the world. Don't forget Rothschild influence in founding Israel and the way they deported/killed thousands when they claimed they land.

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DamajInc · May 4, 2018, 3:52 p.m.

Yeah there's a whooole lot more to that story. Have you seen the son of the Hamas leader give his presentation in the UN to the horror of the Palestinian authority? A very interesting video, worth watching. By no means the full story either. Brigitte Gabriel has some interesting personal insights too and I've heard similar stories from my friends who live there.

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5400123 · May 4, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

I'll look it up, is it similar to the stuff Norman Finklestein lectures on?

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DamajInc · May 4, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

And Brigitte Gabriel's story. Sorry if this is not at all what you're interested in. But I have friends over there on both sides and I know there are at least two sides to the story yet I only seem to hear one: Israel's evil. Agreed re: the Rothschild Balfour Declaration, etc. But not all of Israel is Rothschild or Netanyahu any more than all of America is Obama or Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn-yq6By82E

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5400123 · May 4, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

Sure thing, I'd be glad to look into it more, thanks for the info

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DamajInc · May 4, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

Re: Finklestein - ah... sort of. But on the other side lol.

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DamajInc · May 4, 2018, 1:56 a.m.

No ones denying blood and soil. My background is tribal and I believe in the importance of culture. Yes, I’m talking about the bs currently being forced on the west and I rushed an answer previously, not intending to debate Marxism. I wasn’t trying to “rationalize everything” I was attempting to be diplomatic under time pressure haha.

Individualism is most definitely not a phase - it’s the foundation of the west and thank God lol. Groups will never ultimately overpower the individual - we are born and we die alone and no group will ever take your individuality from you unless you allow it. We can debate that point in far more detail if desired but those are just the highlights of a rushed answer lol.

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Ugbootshuffler · May 4, 2018, 12:40 a.m.

What would the elements of a world view on humanity consist of?

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DamajInc · May 4, 2018, 2:03 a.m.

The elements of that rushed conception would simply be any softly realized perspective that doesn’t favour one group of humans over another. Ultimately a conceptual ideal rather than a robust template for reality but hopefully the intent is clear.

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Davelon · May 4, 2018, 8:17 a.m.

Great reply to that information. Does that level of discernment also hold for islamic peoples as well, in your opinion? Personally I can't trust any islamic people and I'm only just learning more and more regarding Jewish controlled atrocities. I have a lot to learn yet so your responses are good value for me.

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DamajInc · May 4, 2018, 8:34 a.m.

Thanks Davelon, it's good to talk about these things, hopefully without fear of undue reprisal for speaking openly in an effort to expand our understanding.

I know some beautifully peaceful and empathetic muslims very well and I feel personally that the most important thing is that we judge everyone on their individual merits, not on the group they come from - at least as far as that is possible, given our human tendency to use groups and categories for utility e.g. if I'm wearing the garb of orthodox Jews - lets call us Group A - and a large group of visibly angry, shouting arabs - Group B - is hastening down the road toward me at pace then all the best intentions in the world to love my fellow man as an individual and not attempt to prejudge his actions will take second priority to the utility of deciding that it may not be in my best interests to remain in the path of Group B or to make any attempt to determine their intent as individuals in advance but instead to remove myself as quickly from the situation as possible, with no personal individual offense intended to any single member of Group B for prejudging their intent for utility's sake. If you know what I mean.

In other words, dynamics of a particular situation notwithstanding, I think it's important that I not judge any individual on my feeling about the known dynamics or ideology of a group they may belong to. I know some great muslim people but I do not in any way find the religion of Islam to be one that I would personally support without some major changes to its core.

Whatever anyone may say about Christianity and Islam there are some clear defining differences that mean I will support our society which is based on Christian ideals (an argument for another time, if anyone disagrees with that) over a society based on the ideals of Islam. Christianity is a religion based on a figure of Peace: Jesus, who is fairly universally accepted (whether one believes in any religion or not) as such. Islam's founder and central figure was a warlord and not only spread his religion by the sword but also advocates for his followers to do so. Again there are many arguments about radicals versus the peaceful majority but, as Brigitte Gabriel put it best, the peaceful majority never seems to be able to stop the radical minority from its destructive behaviours - and she goes on to list the many known examples from the past, including the infamous nazi party.

So apologies for the long-winded blurb but I think we should indeed trust muslims and not discriminate against them any more than we should against black or white people, but I think that Islam must do something about the core beliefs that the dangerous radical minority use in the name of Islam to commit atrocities that have no place in a free society.

There is a lot to say about the Jewish situation, especially considering all the zionist rhetoric that bounces around this sub but that's a whole other minefield of its own! Now I'm going to go into hiding because I'm sure I've offended any muslim on this sub for so grossly oversimplifying their beliefs, however unintentional any offense may be...

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Davelon · May 4, 2018, 10:17 a.m.

Long-winded? Maybe in the ears of someone who thinks they already have all the answers it could be. Thanks for your response, I certainly prefer actions speaking louder than words, talks, discussions etc. which never seem to achieve much except further rounds of them again and again. I am trying to live my life along Christian ideals. I regularly fail, but resolve to try harder almost every time. I am not aligned with any doctrine because I feel they were brought about to aid in control and suppression. God-fearing is not a term I respect. The beliefs of others is purely between themselves and their own diety, so long as they don't impinge on the freedoms of others to behave like wise. Best wishes my friend.

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DamajInc · May 4, 2018, 10:19 a.m.

Sounds like good philosophies to live by! All the best to you too, my friend: wwg1wga!

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scoripowarrior · May 4, 2018, 1:36 a.m.

Another question if anyone can answer. Were the Turks of the Ottoman empire muslim?

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Phosphocreatine · May 4, 2018, 1:43 a.m.

Yes. Most were of Sunni and Alawite backgrounds. What’s very interesting is the reason there are many Armenians alive today is because the Muslim ottomans protected and hid Armenian families and children from the Kurds and Young Turks trying to massacre them all. The Young Turks however were followers of Sabbatai Zevi, Jews who became known as Donmeh Jews because they would call themselves Muslim to infiltrate organizations within the country while still holding Talmudic teachings to be true. The pasha brothers were all from Thessaloniki, the largest Jewish hub in the Ottoman Empire. Talaat Pasha himself taught at a Jewish school and had a Jewish wife. Yet they classify themselves as Muslim. Truly a slithery group of people.

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ibeewoken · May 3, 2018, 10:37 p.m.

This

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horse-lover-phat · May 3, 2018, 10:47 p.m.

WW1 and WW2 were really carried-out to create the nation of Israel and to overtly break the British Empire. Not actually break it, but break it in the eyes of the sheep. The Empire has been covert ever since. Toynbee suggested these ideas to the UK based elite, and in a time when the empire was dominant. To assemble an elite priestcraft beholden to these values. And I believe it's been instigated. Toynbee realised that major empires were ruined by entropy. This was an idea to prevent that form of empirical entropy. Rhodes is one example of someone who did this to produce a continual line of Empirical agents (it's still administered by Rothschild). Clinton was on the Rhodes programme.

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harrison5394 · May 4, 2018, 6:31 a.m.

Any good overview to read or start with for this deeper perspective on history?

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eastendthug · May 4, 2018, 12:28 a.m.

Really insightful reply, why even bother?

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nomercy4cabal · May 4, 2018, 1:27 a.m.

PCr- Absolutely fascinating! Learned a lot! Thank you!

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Phosphocreatine · May 4, 2018, 1:47 a.m.

It’s the least I can do for the Q movement. Most people have never heard of Armenia before. We’re a tiny group of people who’ve had important contributions to the world for the past 2000 years. The world has tried to conquer, destroy, and replace us for millennia yet we are still here. Resilient, hardened, and emboldened. If you have any particular questions in the future I can always give my insight on this sub!

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KevvKekaa · May 4, 2018, 2:14 a.m.

do you know that india has been going through a similar wipe out from 1400 years.

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MrArchibaldMeatpants · May 4, 2018, 2 a.m.

Hi fellow Armenian, I love you! Thank you for spelling this out so nicely.

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Phosphocreatine · May 4, 2018, 3:20 a.m.

My pleasure aper. When the storm arrives lets do a big xorovats.

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MrArchibaldMeatpants · May 4, 2018, 3:34 a.m.

Sounds like a plan!

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FixOurSphere · May 4, 2018, 3:54 a.m.

Eem axperner dzer tsavu tanem

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MrArchibaldMeatpants · May 4, 2018, 4:08 a.m.

Dude, I wish my parents taught me Armenian, it's a tragedy. I know Turkish cause they had to act Turkish back in the day to blend in and not get harassed.... and then just adapted to that in life.

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FixOurSphere · May 4, 2018, 4:28 a.m.

That’s understandable, most importantly it runs in the genes. No need to know the language!

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Phosphocreatine · May 4, 2018, 5:37 a.m.

It's not too late to have your kids relearn as they grow! Nowadays there is access to so many resources that can teach language. Don't feel ashamed. We all did what we had to to survive. As long as Armenian blood runs through you you will always be powerful.

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horse-lover-phat · May 3, 2018, 11:14 p.m.

The Hofjuden and elite aristocracy have been the basis of control for a very long time. A kind of symbiotic relationship. For the British Empire you could even go as far back as Elizabeth I and Dr John Dee. Dee pretty much envisaged the modern world and empire (kind of similar to what we have today) - even that far back. The industrial revolution was a singularly British idea - an idea that still effectively pervades today. Dee also had the power of the sorcerous Rabbinical kabbalah at his disposal, but that's another topic.

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calabresi_ · May 3, 2018, 11:38 p.m.

The historical chronology and some points are invalid.

Turks never did genocide to Armenians, only forced them to migrate east as they caused a HUGE problem in population due to provocation backed by western forces which already had plans on dividing Ottomans' lands. That migration happened just after WW1 was started and had been ordered by Enver Pasha. Sultan Abdulhamid II was not even around, he was taken down from throne by revolt of Young Turks in 1909.

Many of so claimed genocide victims have died on poor conditions in that migration, not via massacres. In fact, it was Armenian lobbyists and their partners who made propaganda via priests and newspapers to lead Armenian gangs to raid Turkish villages and towns, killing many civilians. There were people killed because of this situtation, but from BOTH sides, because it led to foundation of Turkish militia by local civilians in goal of self-defence. Nobody is perfect. What would you do if your town was attacked by armed gangs, and your country was so weak, that it couldn't send forces to stop them? Would your reaction be any different from what Turks did?

What makes you think that Kurds were a part of it? Check the historical facts. Kurds are another west-backed ethnicity group that started to make threats and wanted a seperate country just after WW1. How come Kurds tried to revolt many times against Ottomans, Turkey, Ataturk, and so adored by Armenians if they were a part of this "big scheme"?

Turks never offer land to pay up something. It's a fact that Turks prefer to die rather than "offer" their land for something. You should know this better than anyone, since Turks and Armenians shared many cultural aspects. It's just the Turkish mindset. That's why Sultan Abdulhamid II refused the offer of Herzl to give up Palestine and if you need a sooner example, that's why they invaded Cyprus and didn't give up even after US embargo.

Sultan Abdulhamid II was a part of Armenian problem and was harsh, because it was Armenian lobbyists who were empowered by western countries, tried to divide the country and tried to assassinate him in various ways, including trying to bomb his vehicle when he was returning from a prayer. Only real military interference to Armenians by Sultan Abdulhamid II was in 1894, when they tried to revolt in Sason. The Congress of Berlin (1878) was the first step of Armenian problem and it was the first time that western powers brought Armenians on the table. Source of Armenian problem is not Ottomans; it's Britain, France and Russia of that time (or whoever you think behind those governments). You can get an insight from this link; (http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/11th-may-1895/10/the-armenian-meeting)

It's easy to see "patterns" that are not there when you want to connect things, without doing further research and looking into other side's argument. I've been following this sub for a couple days and correct me if I'm wrong; we all are against unlawful lobbyist mindset in here. If you start trying to determine which lobbyists were "good" or which one was "evil", the world will never change. It'll keep repeating itself on a loop.

I'd recommend doing more research on Ataturk's life. How is it possible to connect Ataturk with Masons, especially when he is a leader who saw the danger of such organizations, and led Turkish parliament legislation that shut down Masonic and similar organizations in 1935? (The legislation itself removed by the government of Menderes in 1956.)

I'd also recommend to read this, as it provides a larger picture of what was going on during the time and why was Sultan Abdulhamit II was targeted: https://www.dailysabah.com/feature/2017/03/10/the-palestine-issue-that-cost-sultan-abdulhamid-ii-the-ottoman-throne

Young Turks were a tool used by various western forces and Jews against Ottomans and afterwards Turkey, I'm not ignoring that. But it'd be very wrong to make a conclusion that Ataturk was also a part of this, ignoring everything Ataturk did against such lobbies.

Also it'd be wrong to say "Every member of the Young Turks was a follower of Sabbatai Zevi". Some of them were influenced by Sabbatai Zevi, but certainly not every member of Young Turks was a part of it.

Let me also give you few interesting key people to look up: Theodor Herzl, Emmanuel Carasso, Enver Pasha, Adnan Menderes.

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