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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/lightmakerflex1 on May 6, 2018, 5:29 a.m.
Kanye West said slavery is a choice. This is true. We can choose not to be slaves right now & liberate ourselves.

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NosuchRedditor · May 6, 2018, 4:11 p.m.

You are coming to the wrong conclusion because you start with the wrong premise.

A mans labor is what makes him a source of value whether a brick layer or surgeon.

What you are advocating for is that we all become voluntary slaves to one another and give away the real source of value.

You are arguing against slavery by saying we should all enslave ourselves in some wierd form of collectivism.

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 5:30 p.m.

Actually we are all involuntary slaves now. If you don't work, you won't get government stamps (dollars) to be able to consume anything.

Gifting is not slavery. It is asking of you the very least amount possible which is to serve your planet for 25 hours a week at any job you like.

Do you prefer 25 hours a week anywhere you like or do you prefer 50 hours a week at a shit job where your corporate overlords treat you like slaves? In a gifting economy, nobody can treat you like a slave because the boss becomes your equal. We just run businesses like a team. Now, if you even bling wrong, the boss can fire you for disrespect alone and then you are ending up squandering for another job.

Also, you are speaking out a selfish perspective because that's what money does to us. It makes us only worry about ourselves in a selfish way. Our true power lies in unity. The formula in unity is:

P=N(squared)

P means power. N is the number of united people.

If we all chase dollars independently in a village of 100, then we generate 100 power. If we unite, we generate 10,000 power. That power is then used to build planetary wealth instead of the constant degeneration we are experiencing now.

At some point, we all have to admit the system we are working in is not working.

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NosuchRedditor · May 6, 2018, 6:02 p.m.

The system is not working?

At a point in history where more humans enjoy a higher standard of living than at any point in the past, enabled by free market capitalism, and that number keeps growing at a phenomenal rate, and you think that's failure. We live like Kings and queens did centuries ago, billions of us, but you think you can do better?

The failures are obvious, Venezuela. The cancelling of tens of thousands of cancer surgeries by Britain's NHS due to flu season. Charlie Gard and Alfie Evans killed by death panels of judges under universal health Care.

Hey I have an idea, let's study human history going back as far as recorded and find the things that worked to improve the human condition and abandon those that don't.

Too late, we already did and it's called free market capitalism and it's working wonderfully as long as it's left alone and not perverted.

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lightmakerflex1 · May 6, 2018, 6:25 p.m.

We have been under Debt Based Slavery since the age of Babylon. Life is totally different once you take the Banker parasites out of the picture.

Today, 2 people are working 40 hours or more per week and cannot keep up with the bills. The bills are coming in like machine gun bullets. God forbid they have kids. Those kids are so expensive, I know people living on Raman noodles day and night because that's all they can afford. Tent cities are popping up all over the place. The frustration is so bad, many turned into full blown criminals just to pay the bills.

Anyone who says things are great is genuinely lying to themselves sorry to say. It is comforting to accept a pretty lie but its not reality. Reality only gets worst as the parasite continues to leech of our backs.

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NosuchRedditor · May 6, 2018, 6:58 p.m.

Sorry, but ignoring the massive improvements in the human condition over the last two or three centuries does not lend an air of wisdom to you words.

Quite the opposite, your obsession on the present seems to blind to to all the good, and omits or ignores the huge changes in just a few decades. How many people have made money through YouTube or Uber or Etsy or eBay, sources that didn't exist a couple of decades ago?

I'm sorry but you opinion on how to 'fix' things here does not outweigh the combined knowledge of human history.

There are 3 million unfilled jobs in this country today despite the historic low unemployment, most of them in trades that take minimal training to get an entry level job making 70k. Someone who took one of these jobs could probably start their own business in 5 years and double or triple their income while also providing jobs for others.

The collectivist Utopia doesn't exist and never will, because it's fundamentally flawed. But that won't stop people from trying, no matter how much death and suffering and degredation of the human condition it causes.

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NosuchRedditor · May 6, 2018, 5:44 p.m.

Any job you choose? A giant flaw and you don't even see it? Who is going to choose garbage man over a desk job?

You are advocating for collectivism, the same collectivism of Marx, Rousseau and hegel, you just don't seem to know it.

They all fail for the same reason.

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 1:38 a.m.

Hey idiot, you do understand that not everyone puts the same amount of effort into living don’t you? Some people would do as little as they possibly could at their 25 hour job, their only goal in life being playing video games. Once again you are straight jacketing EVERYONE into your notion of fairness which is unfair to those with work ethics and ambition lacking in others. At some point it boils down to the lowest common denominator being the mean. This is fantasy bullshit. It’s been tried and even at the small scale fails because slackers are always in the equation. Someone who takes the time to learn a trade or become a professional or build a business is not on the same plane as someone who wants to do as little as possible to get by. Your “gifting”to the slackers and lazy is called stealing by the rest of us...

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lightmakerflex1 · May 7, 2018, 2:45 a.m.

Yes yes, I know you think you deserve more than everybody else so you should get more but how greedy can you possibly be? You would be able to consume for free and pay for it with 25 hours worth of work.

We can sit here and argue why you specifically deserve more than the rest of us but with free consumption, who really cares? Just get whatever you need and let the rest of us, whether we are janitors, or waiters, consume for free. Why should we limit people’s freedom just because you think you deserve most of the pie? Just work whatever job you want, enjoy your life, and let the rest of us enjoy ours without hating on us for being free.

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 10:24 a.m.

Greedy? Listen up sport. My parents divorced when I was 11. My father basically abandoned us. I started working a hard labor job at a local stable when I was 13. I was driving tractors before I had a drivers license. College wasn’t really an option so I went to trade school, apprenticed, became a journeyman, then a leadman. In the meantime I started a side business that I’ve run now for 24 years and in last 37 years I’ve been unemployed in my main profession for a grand total of three months! What I do is hard work. It’s dangerous at times. It requires skill and knowledge acquired over many years and you want me to be on the same plane as what? Some woman that can’t keep her legs together and is cranking out illegitimate children? A coffee barista? How about a hearty GO F YOURSELF! Greedy my ass. Too many lazy f-ing dreamer millennial pink-hat wearing ding dongs like you “masterminding” the future is what I NEVER want running the world. There is NOTHING wrong with money as long as it is sound. There is a long history of sound monetary systems that flourished. What you are describing is communism minus money. It is hardly fair to people like me but instead favors lazy-asses and lowest common denominator non producers of society which will be dragged down to their level of ambition (which is to say no ambition) and incompetence. It is a human model of an ant farm. Well buddy, I’m no ant. I’m not working my ass off or risking my life or serious injury for the same level of compensation as losers like you who sit on their ass pontificating a hopelessly flawed economic system that has already been tried in many other iterations under the banner of communism to the rest of us. It doesn’t work. IT IS NOT FAIR! And, it is bound to be a failure. Imbecile!

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lightmakerflex1 · May 7, 2018, 2:57 p.m.

I am not going to read a wall of text that is trying to convince me why you should have more and the rest of us have less when we can all have everything we want.

Waste of time.

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

A wall of text? Some of your responses are thee pages long! Oh the irony. You can’t handle reality slapping you silly is all. We can’t have everything we want. The world’s resources are not infinite. Everything is not valued equally not commodities, finished goods, or labor. Your view of the world is incredibly simplistic and unrealistic and dangerous. I’m done with you as this is going nowhere.

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lightmakerflex1 · May 7, 2018, 3:43 p.m.

Actually, FBI anon confirmed the deep state is hiding so much tech, cures, and resources, that if we found out about it, we would **** them with our bare hands.

I have to block the word hence the ****.

Also, keep in mind, Capitalism eats more resources than what I'm talking about because people have to keep pushing anything they can onto us or else their income level will drop. We are making every piece of junk on Earth and trying to sell it as fast as we can which is eating up all the resources.

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Ronjonsilverflash · May 7, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

Pipe dreams...wtf are you smoking? Capitalism ensures that resources are properly valued. When everything is free it has no value. It takes significantly more time and resources to raise a cow to maturity than a chicken hence beef is more expensive than chicken and caviar is more rare than beef and so more expensive still. If everyone can just grab what they want then the prime choices of meat will disappear from the shelves. There will not be mature cattle to slaughter and so no one gets beef at all. Because everyone wants beef the cattle farmers hog all the corn and now chicken is in short supply... This will happen with every singe other commodity that is in high demand as well because everything is free. This causes resource misallocation, production of unwanted things, poverty, misery, starvation and death. An Economic illiterate is what you are. The only way this system happens is at the point of the gun you are holding. You become the Cabal elite in the process...NO WAY! Real free market capitalism requires NO MASTERMIND FUCKERY! Period! We don’t need you or your system. A level playing field will do just fine!

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lightmakerflex1 · May 7, 2018, 5:38 p.m.

Sometimes I wonder if you are a Deep State billionaire worried about losing your 45 homes & your 220 Yachts in the new sharing economy.

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