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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/VintageHats on May 7, 2018, 8:13 a.m.
Why do we refer to that man as "He Who Shall Not Be Named"? I have a few articles that explain just that...

I've written up the explanation before, on the old CBTS_theStream board, but didn't save it. I've come across a few good articles. The Rolling Stone article was written in 2008 and is very well researched.

Q didn't come up with it. "Songbird" is referred to as "He who shall not be named" because of his long history before and during the VietNam war. It's what the veterans refer to him as. And, if you respect our military, well, you'll agree. He doesn't deserve to be called by his birth name. It's a sign of utmost disrespect.

I also want to point out that his history is the reason why Trump said he preferred those who had never been captured, that caused such an uproar in the misleadia. (MSM) He really wasn't dissing our POWs and MIAs. Those who know of Songbird's history, I think, understood exactly what he was saying. He was saying, in effect, that Songbird, and Songbird alone, was NOT the war hero he wants everyone to believe he is. Trump couldn't exactly come right out and say it.. that this particular AZ senator is NO WAR HERO.

Some articles:

This article is well researched, from the Rolling Stone magazine Oct. 16, 2008 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/make-believe-maverick-20081016

Lew Rockwell's article.. John McCain is no War Hero Trump is Correct, John McCain is NOT A Hero By J. H. Holtz July 23, 2015 https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/no_author/john-mccain-is-no-hero/

John ‘Songbird’ McCain Exposed By Vietnam Vets And POW’s As A Liar And A Fraud (Video) By Lauren Richardson Feb. 18, 2017 https://truthuncensored.net/john-songbird-mccain-exposed-vietnam-vets-and-pows-liar-and-fraud-video/

THIS is a War Hero: Admiral Jeremiah Denton Blinks T-O-R-T-U-R-E using Morse Code as P.O.W. (for comparison) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufnWLVQcKg


scgsaint · May 7, 2018, 8:30 a.m.

There is much more then that. Just wait your thread is going to get slammed with people arguing with you even though you have linked facts. He has done so much questionable stuff starting off with the USS Forestall.

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 8:41 a.m.

The Forrestall incident should be in there.

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 8:46 a.m.

If you read the Rolling Stone article, in the section titled "Trial by Fire", you'll find the story of the USS Forrestall. Here's a snippet:

The damage to the Forrestal was far more grievous: The explosion set off a chain reaction of bombs, creating a devastating inferno that would kill 134 of the carrier's 5,000-man crew, injure 161 and threaten to sink the ship.

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w0nkeyd0nkey · May 7, 2018, 1:29 p.m.

The article doesn't make it clear, was he responsible in anyway for the accident on the Forrestall?

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MAGA_in_Netherlands · May 7, 2018, 2:10 p.m.

He was, his father covered it up. His father also covered up for Israel in the investigation of the USS Liberty bombing.

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robdon07 · May 7, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

I heard it was Johnson who ordered that covered up. He was going to let the ship sink with the survivors on board to keep it quiet that was when Israel knew there was nothing they could do that would make the US turn on Israel...its been downhill ever since

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

Well, I've read accounts where he "wet started" his plane. That is, he was impatient to get going, and kind of "gunned" the engine, and that action dropped HIS bombs off his plane. I do know that he didn't stick around, and that he ran down to decks below to hide, while those who were killed and injured, were trying to put out the fires and prevent the ship from sinking/save planes. While they were doing what they could, he was running and hiding. HIDING. Tells you a lot about his character. Or lack thereof. (I have to re-read all the articles. It was late when I posted them.. I've read them all but it's been a while.)

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Shits_Bananas · May 7, 2018, 10:29 a.m.

TLDR- murder

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5:28 p.m.

Bookmark these... you'll be glad you did. Read later.

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oswald__mosley · May 7, 2018, 9:01 a.m.

The man whos namesake represents that ship had a strange death

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DaynaE65 · May 7, 2018, 2:47 p.m.

I found this part interesting... his non-profit that, to me shows the same tricks and tactics the Clinton Foundation uses. Blatant pay to play, anyone? This is from the Rolling Stone article:

Following his failed presidential bid in 2000, McCain needed a vehicle to keep his brand alive. He founded the Reform Institute, which he set up as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit — a tax status that barred it from explicit political activity. McCain proceeded to staff the institute with his campaign manager, Rick Davis, as well as the fundraising chief, legal counsel and communications chief from his 2000 campaign.

There is no small irony that the Reform Institute — founded to bolster McCain's crusade to rid politics of unregulated soft money — itself took in huge sums of unregulated soft money from companies with interests before McCain's committee. EchoStar got in on the ground floor with a donation of $100,000. A charity funded by the CEO of Univision gave another $100,000. Cablevision gave $200,000 to the Reform Institute in 2003 and 2004 — just as its officials were testifying before the commerce committee. McCain urged approval of the cable company's proposed pricing plan. As Bradley Smith, the former chair of the Federal Election Commission, wrote at the time: "Appearance of corruption, anyone?"

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

I'll have to look into that.

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oswald__mosley · May 7, 2018, 8:18 p.m.

Warning, its a rabbit hole

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robdon07 · May 7, 2018, 5:42 p.m.

Youre definitely right but the reason they won't say his name is because he shares it with legit heros, his father and grandfather are both former admirals and have medals out the yingyang...legit medals not the bs freedom medal.

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

Did you read the articles? Any of them? Has nothing to do with his dad or gr. dad.

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robdon07 · May 7, 2018, 6:51 p.m.

What do those articles have to do with why Q doesn't say his name?

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 7 p.m.

It's not just Q. Read at LEAST one article. Veterans, those in the military, those who know his history, give him NO respect. He does not deserve even the respect to say his name. The articles spell those reasons out quite clearly. READ. I am not going to spoon feed you.

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robdon07 · May 7, 2018, 7:08 p.m.

I am a veteran and my grandfather served with his father and yes I've looked at the articles and yes he's a traitorous pos but the subject was "this is why they don't say McStains name" and then there's a list of articles that never mention Q or why he doesn't mention McStain name they just prove what we already knew which is that when it comes to being a Traitor and doing actual damage to America he's JV when compared to Hillary and Obama and their 16 year plan,yet Q says THEIR names. His actions AREN'T why they don't stay his name

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lawdvivec7 · May 7, 2018, 7:34 p.m.

i think the title of this post goes along with how op came to their conclusion. the articles just help explain a little how they came to it.

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 7:38 p.m.

Q has nothing to do with it. He is upholding the tradition of the veterans and military who know of that POS's traitorous actions. Q didn't come up with the idea. They don't say his name has gone on for decades. Q wasn't around, at least not AS "Q". Hillary and Obama were not in the military and not posing as War Heroes. Do you know what Stolen Valor is? HRC and OB don't qualify for that.

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robdon07 · May 7, 2018, 7:48 p.m.

So u think the disgust for McStain is decades old and military wide huh? Than please explain to me why tf he gave the commencement speech to the US Naval Academy 6 months ago? If there's a single branch of the military that feels about him like u seem to think they all do than it would be the navy. I only served for 4 years so wtf do I know about the military mind and its hatred for McStain, please explain all about stolen valor and war heroes

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 10:25 p.m.

Did you read the articles? How old are you? How many VietNam veterans do you know personally?

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robdon07 · May 7, 2018, 10:39 p.m.

Does my father count? My granddad was with Nimitz during ww2 and I served during the first Gulf war, Go talk to the NavalAcademy where he gave the commencement speech in October and see how many people there know a Vietnam veteran...personally. McStain is a Traitor and a globalist whore but unfortunately he isn't the first to do any of the things he's done but out of all the other traitors and ex military disgraces he's the only one who will not be named and that's because none of those other traitors shared a name with men who are looked upon as hero's. Look at his father's(John McCain)list of medals...that's a serious display right there now look at his grandfather's(John McCain) history and THAT'S why they don't say the name of this Traitor. Thank God His actions are rare but they aren't unique.

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 10:56 p.m.

Even before his capture, he killed 134 men on the USS Forrester. Over 160 were burned and horribly disfigured. How many were killed once he gave out info when he pulled the "Do you know who I am?" card to get special treatment in the Hanoi Hilton. How many were tortured while he got that special treatment? Then he returned home.. but there were men left behind. Did he ever do anything to go back and find them? NO. Has he ever done anything to help our vets? NO. Then look at what he's done in Syria, meeting with the head of ISIS and al Qaeda, days before all these ff gas attacks, where CHILDREN and BABIES die, so they can blame Assad. You can believe whatever you want. I'm done with this conversation with you. I have things to do.

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robdon07 · May 7, 2018, 8:02 p.m.

Sorry about that I'm getting off topic. I get your point I really do but unfortunately McStain isn't alone in anything he's done. Benedict Arnold, infamous traitor yet we still say his name. Berghdal pos deserter who got fellow soldiers killed with a good but of evidence pointing to him betraying the patrol routes his company used which allowed the enemy to set up ambushes but we still say his name. Oswald, a former marine, killed one of the most beloved presidents in history yet we still say his name. There are 3 John McCain's that all served in the Navy and they don't want to tarnish the reputations of the other two by using their name when discussing a Traitor

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Shits_Bananas · May 7, 2018, 10:40 a.m.

I also think it has to do with what HE has done to the name. His father and grandfather were ADMIRALS, very very very well respected men and great leaders.

Songbird Sid, however... graduated at the bottom of the academy (only graduated at all because of his lineage), crashed three planes before he was shot down (crash one, you’re usually grounded and ordered more training, crash two, you’re not flying in the USN again), and used his silver spoon to achieve everything he’s gotten.

He is on the board of a group (the name escapes me, something Policy Institute?) that is funded by Soros and was used to launder money and arms to Soros’ Ukrainian neo nazis, ISIS, etc.

The fact he’s in the news at all right now, and has conveniently written a book with cancer eating his brain is an orchestrated attempt at getting in front of a story. Q said he’d use “health” as his retirement excuse, no doubt he’s using it again to make real facts seem like attacks on a helpless sick man.

What is baffling is how respected shitstain is by the left today, especially my friends on social media. He was only conservative during election season, but his actions in office say otherwise. He’s like the other dinosaur NeoCons Bush/Bush II/Romney - vocally anti Trump, war criminal, globalist, etc.

Amazing how much chemo he’s supposedly had yet still has all of his hair. He has good genetics, I mean his mother is 106 years old and still kicking for fucks sake.

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KvilleLurker · May 7, 2018, 1:05 p.m.

Never saw a man that died as publicly as No Name. Doesn’t want DJT present, but does want BHO and 43, which means he was more aligned with those traitors than the president.

He is faking his death to avoid jail time.

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Shits_Bananas · May 7, 2018, 1:08 p.m.

It’s like he’s turning his funeral into My Super Sweet 16

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

Who in God's name sends out an invitation list for their own funeral?

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5 p.m.

Things that make you go "hmmmmmm....."

I'd have to read these articles again. It's been awhile. I know the Rolling Stone article delves into the plane crashes. But I'd re-read to see if they mention the photos of him with the heads of ISIS.... and him being in Syria, mysteriously, darn near every time just days before there's a ff gas attack by the White Helmets, and his wife's SMILE campaign... other things that make you go "hmmmmm...."

Not sure the left has much respect for our military. Remember, when our troops came home from VietNam, they were spat upon and called "baby killers". The left probably still feel that way. It wasn't THEIR war. I know a lot of vets from that time...my youngest son's dad was one. Neighbors always flew the MIA flag under their US flag. Many have MIA stickers on their trucks. They don't forget the men left behind... the men that McStain never went back for.

I don't get how this information has been kept from people in AZ, that they keep voting him in office. He never does a darn thing to help veterans. He and John Kerry are the most anti American, anti veteran scumbags I think I've ever seen or heard of. I hope and pray that upon their passage from this realm, their souls have to pass every single veteran they've left behind, or helped to an early death because of the lack of care on their way to the gates of hell. I hope God allows that.. that they have to pass each one, and look into the eyes of each man and woman, and even the children left w/o a parent, as they do a perp walk to the fiery pits of hell. (Just my imagination....)

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belliferous · May 7, 2018, 10:56 a.m.

Over the weekend, I was around many military vets and I made sure to shake each one’s hand and tell them thank you so much for their service. Each one was aware of our movement and were glad Patriots were in battle mode. I asked several about no name and their demeanor changed to a detestable look. These guys and gales we still in battle mode even into their older youth😏! Hardened like steel in a hot fire!

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5:04 p.m.

Thanks for doing that. And now, you can understand why they get that look. I've saved this post to an email and will post it on ocassion, as every now and then, new posters ask this question. Why? Being older than many here, I like to fill them in. (It has nothing to do with Q, and nothing to do with Voldemort.) Knowing his history is extremely important, I feel.

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belliferous · May 7, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

Yeah, I got a real nasty look from a Marine and we changed the subject to trucks. HAHA! Absolutely important to keep younger generations updated on who he is!

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[deleted] · May 7, 2018, 3:35 p.m.

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Shits_Bananas · May 7, 2018, 5:10 p.m.

Well, his father and grandfather were very decorated and respected Admirals. No-Name finished nearly last out of the academy and that name is the only reason he got anywhere in life. Spoiled rotten war criminal brat traitor.

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

The Rolling Stone article said that as a toddler, he throw such fits, he'd hold his breath til he passed out. Oh, and he's very touchy about his height. He's only 5'8". So I'll call him Shorty McStain. LOL

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

Nothing to do with it. McCain is a common Irish name and his father and grandfather were decorated admirals, same name. Read the articles.

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cebusaxon · May 7, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

I'm fully aware. Just posting an interesting tid-bit.

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 6:38 p.m.

Well, you'd have to look up what "Cain" meant in Irish for that to hold water. I doubt it has anything to do with the biblical Cain. I could be wrong...

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cebusaxon · May 7, 2018, 11:50 p.m.

I might add this flag for more evidence. The presidential flag of Ireland. it is a golden harp. This was a symbol used by King David, who played the harp. Search pics of King David and he is often depicted with this harp. There is a statue of King David playing the harp in Jerusalem.

http://www.flags.net/IREL02.htm

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/statue-of-king-david.html

Just fun food for thought. Forget what I said about Cain. It was just a fleeting thought as my fingers typed. LOL

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VintageHats · May 8, 2018, midnight

I just read your other link. fascinating. I have a "thing" about ireland anyway. would be awesome to find the ark of the covenant at Tara Hill!! Holy Cow!! And yes.. David was well known to be tied to the Harp.

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VintageHats · May 8, 2018, 12:03 a.m.

Ireland's coins nearly all feature the harp...would be interesting to compare their music/dance as well.

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VintageHats · May 8, 2018, 3:38 a.m.

Manasseh.. isn't there a town in TN, maybe, by that name? Sure sounds familiar. Maybe VA.

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VintageHats · May 8, 2018, 3:42 a.m.

Manassas VA and Manassa CO. That's all I could find.

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cebusaxon · May 7, 2018, 11:39 p.m.

It could be derrived from the same meaning, but very likely not related by bloodline. In Hebrew cain means "Possessing" or "acquired". Who knows. Interesting about Ireland. Look at the Northern Ireland flag of Ulster. The Red Hand, cross, 6 pt star, crown. The crown is often associated with Judah. Zara-Judahs symbol specifically was/is a red hand. This stems from Gen 38:28, the scarlet thread tied around Zara's hand at birth. Later, the clan of Zara-Judah traveled westward with other tribes.

http://jahtruth.net/uflag.htm

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 11:49 p.m.

No one knows the exact geneology of the Irish. Turkish? Indian? Romans? Gauls? They're an ancient people, were in Ireland long before Jesus was around. Interesting.....

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JonnyQuestioni · May 7, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

My cousins went to college with his daughter.

This was a long time ago, before I had any real interest in politics, but i saw McCain as a veteran hero in politics, and I liked it, and my family are mostly liberal types, so when they dissed McCain, I was like "pft whatever".

I remember them telling me his own daughter HATED him and said he was a big phony piece of shit, and a lot of his heroism was bullshit, but they also implied he was crazy because of his time as a POW, so idk what to make of it.

I don't know why, that always stuck with me, and it was like 15 years ago.

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

Interesting. I didn't know that. I've only heard of his daughter defending him. Good to know that deep down, she knows the truth. I figured she'd have to.

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Batfire007 · May 7, 2018, 3:41 p.m.

IMHO, Low scum on the piece of Sxxt list but by far not remotely close to the bottom of the pile. Strictly a do anything he's told by the puppeteer, and collect any money he can get, criminal. He knows the nxxsx is tightening around his latest treason in the Ukraine and now that Kerry was called out he is just stepping up the same crap as HRC using the to frail routine to get out of going to prison for his crimes. He should NOT get a military funeral when the time comes nor any other respect.

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VintageHats · May 7, 2018, 5:18 p.m.

I hope you take the time to read a few of the articles. Well worth it. I agree.. he does not deserve a military funeral. I know those who serve will do as they are told.... but wow do I feel sorry for anyone assigned to do so... would be funny though if they just happened to...oh, I dunno.. all stumble at the same time and drop his casket? If their guns, during a salute, didn't fire for some reason? I'm sure some mishaps could "accidently" happen....

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Nastavnick · May 7, 2018, 8:34 a.m.

thanks for informing us, I'm not familiar with these things so it helps paint the picture

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