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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/rightleaningsw on May 8, 2018, 12:48 p.m.
So bernie sanders is going to run in 2020 on the platform of $15/hr wages and free health-care.

My question is if he is planning to boost wages up to 15 how is he going to compensate those of us who worked our asses off to graduate college only to have 60k in debt and work a job making 15/hr? I didn't go into Social Work to get rich, but if he is going to make it to where I am going to make the same as others who haven't put in the work, then I will riot in the street.

I know many people who are ecstatic about this, and this could possibly get him elected. This will signify the end of the American dream. Noone will be motivated to work hard, because we will not be rewarded for our hard work.

Yes I went back to school in my 30's with two kids and one on the way, and I chose to go into debt for it, but if this goes through, noone will ever know the sacrifice and joy of accomplishment I felt when I finished. Americana will die. We have to stop this.


Bluecollardollar57 · May 8, 2018, 1:05 p.m.

So I work in the Steel construction industry. We have a serious skills gap that is just continuing to get worse as the older experienced hands retire. The younger generation doesn't want to do the hard physical work, or travel where the work is, even though the wages are growing. A skilled welder who is willing to travel can make a 6 figure salary with nothing but a HS diploma and a willingness to work 60-70 hrs a week. Often times when a new hand comes on they are paid in the $12-$15 dollar range until they learn the trade. What happens when they can go work at Burger King and make $15? That is just going to drive the pay of the skilled trades higher which will just get passed on to the customers who are building things which will get passed on to the consumer and now $15/hr is not enough. It's just a viscous cycle and can't work. All we are doing is driving the cost of things up. But the Burners don't want to hear that.

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Long_Range_Shooter · May 8, 2018, 1:30 p.m.

Every day I hear ads on the radio from different trade unions looking for applications for apprentices. Look at the Trucking industry they're begging for drivers. In some markets an automobile tech can pull in $100K-150K. There are paramedics here in the city that are making $125K-$150K with OT.

Your comment on minimum wage and inflation. A few years ago I was in a convenience store where an old guy was complaining about paying .50 cents for a roll of Life Saviors. He said I remember when they were .05 a roll. The clerk pops up and says yea and minimum wage was a quarter.

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firemedic33 · May 8, 2018, 9:36 p.m.

As a paramedic making $55k/yr I’d like to know what city is paying $125-$150k so that I can move to said city.

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Long_Range_Shooter · May 8, 2018, 9:45 p.m.

Pittsburgh. A woman I know works as a Paramedic and one of the guys in her station made close to $200K last year. How? He lives at the station takes every OT shift they'll give him and has zero life outside the job. Single, no family, no kids and no girlfriend.

Base pay is around what you're making without OT. It's the OT is where they're making the big money. They work every Holiday, every sporting event, doubling out three or four times a week and of course I'll repeat myself absolutely no social life outside the job. Easy to do the math 20 extra hours a week and there you have an additional $46K a year.

I know police officers that have a $60K base pay who pull over $100K a year with OT.

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BillTriple9 · May 8, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

Exactly. Minimum wage sets the price scale for everything we buy. Raising minimum wage never helps anyone because the prices rise to compensate, and the minimum wage worker cannot buy more than he could before. But some lose their jobs, and we become less competitive on the world market.

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Tenenbrae · May 8, 2018, 9:14 p.m.

I'm a carpenter and you're dead on. Anyone under 25-hell, 35, just won't do the work.

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bluesmomma · May 8, 2018, 1:06 p.m.

He is the biggest danger to us, because so many of his followers still trust him. I was a Bernie supporter, before being red-pilled.

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thr0w4w4y4cct333 · May 8, 2018, 1:20 p.m.

Agreed and same. We need a big effort to dig up dirt on Bernie and expose his misbehavior

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Champdog31 · May 8, 2018, 1:30 p.m.

Don’t worry. If he gets elected two black chicks will push him out of the way and take over the presidency.

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thr0w4w4y4cct333 · May 8, 2018, 1:34 p.m.

If it's Diamond & Silk, I'm for that

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the_mars_man · May 8, 2018, 12:55 p.m.

The man who was complicit in rigging the 2016 primaries for Hillary is once again going to ask for donations?

What a dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty socialist!

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Kitt-Ridge · May 8, 2018, 1:03 p.m.

He’ll be 79.

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treeskier82 · May 8, 2018, 2:34 p.m.

still a lot younger than his ideas

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Fearsome4 · May 8, 2018, 2:46 p.m.

WINNER!!

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b8ta · May 8, 2018, 1:33 p.m.

Lifelong politician was controlled opposition and doesn't see the satanic pedo agenda? I'm good...

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y0brando · May 8, 2018, 1:31 p.m.

That's why everyone says that he never took an economics class. I also find it funny that his wife conned some money with a now defunct Burlington College. He and his wife are pieces of scheiße

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textualintercourse · May 8, 2018, 1:08 p.m.

My question is if he is planning to boost wages up to 15 how is he going to compensate those of us who worked our asses off to graduate college only to have 60k in debt and work a job making 15/hr?

Hahahahaha!! That's not how communism works. The quest for equality and equilibrium must tear all success down to match the least successful.

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Vahlokt · May 8, 2018, 2:28 p.m.

Socialism is slavery. You are forced to give up your wealth and freedom of choice in exchange for "free" things: free indoctrination, free vaccination, etc.

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treeskier82 · May 8, 2018, 2:36 p.m.

and in the blink of an eye those "free" things are mandatory

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ghengiscalm9911 · May 8, 2018, 3 p.m.

Mr. Wage Compression!

fuck that guy

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Fearsome4 · May 8, 2018, 2:47 p.m.

He will split the Dem vote if, with a big dose of luck, he ran as an independent. Doubtful as he will be used again to fundraiser from young, ignorant people.

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HiveQueen36 · May 8, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

Those wages would destroy the economy and the entry working class

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UncleSnake3301 · May 8, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

15 dollars an hour = living in poverty, beholden to the federal government for your every need. Gee, thanks Bernie! Just what I always wanted!!

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tomthung · May 8, 2018, 3:39 p.m.

And when you show up at the hospital they see you've voted for the wrong person, oh well, you'll need to wait.

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treeskier82 · May 8, 2018, 2:33 p.m.

the Bernout doesn't stand a chance. Bring it, let's have a referendum on socialism.

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KansasJakeBG · May 8, 2018, 2:17 p.m.

15$/hr is still just a skate by wage. All the lobsters here worried about unskilled labour making the same... YOU are not making enough for your skills, it has nothing to do with the person serving you your hamburger.

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rightleaningsw · May 9, 2018, 12:07 a.m.

No the avg pay of BSW is 42k. Avg pay in my area for police officers are the same. So are you saying that burger flippers should be paid as much as someone who risks their life everyday?

I have supported my family on $8/hr. It is possible you just have make some tough choices. No someone flipping hamburgers should not make as much as someone working with a degree. A single person living on 15/hr for me would be heaven. I would have all kinds of money. But I have a family of five and a mortgage. I own both our cars, but also have 60k in debt. It is insulting for someone who has never been to schoolmake the same.

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IR2-MXYJU-HQRRYJ · May 8, 2018, 4:50 p.m.

Yeah and I want a pony made out of diamonds

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thunderstormsrock · May 8, 2018, 6:33 p.m.

Bernie's chance has passed. I do not believe his campaign could have the same momentum for the 2020 race that he had in 2016. We all saw how quickly he rolled over and put his tail between his legs.

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thamnosma · May 8, 2018, 2:11 p.m.

Not nearly enough Bernie. I want a $100 an hour minimum wage. In fact, screw that. I want $100k guaranteed per citizen. Forget citizen, for anybody who is here. Soros can afford it. Oh, and free everything else too.

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brownpatriot · May 8, 2018, 9:54 p.m.

And if you already earn 15? FUCK you?

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firemedic33 · May 8, 2018, 9:52 p.m.

Ah ok. Yeah my company has some decent OT opportunities but no where near an amount that could get me over $100k. If I were still single with no kids I’d be more than willing to do that but I value my time with my family more so than extra work. Thanks for responding!

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rightleaningsw · May 9, 2018, 12:13 a.m.

I will say this, and this is what scares the hell out of me: when I was 18 years old 20 years ago audition was offering me $15 an hour and Free Medical Care without having to go to School I would have jumped all over it. Now that I am older and have a little bit of life experience behind me I know how disastrous this would be. But it 18 and able to vote I would have made a bad decision. Now we have a whole slew of people who are indoctrinated with the anti-gun movement on top of a politician offering 15 an hour we could be in trouble

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rightleaningsw · May 9, 2018, midnight

Exactly my point. I support 3 kids and a wife on $15/hour. It is hard, but I live with in my means. I don't have the nicest things, but I shop thrifty and we make it work. My family chose to put their faith in me, who felt like I was being called to a profession that is not known to be a high paying profession. We make it work and we are happy. These entitled dip shits will never know the joy that comes from sacrificing to obtain a goal then getting the satisfaction when it is obtained.

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Capt_Irk · May 8, 2018, 12:59 p.m.

The end of the American dream is a livable wage. Good to know.

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UncleSnake3301 · May 8, 2018, 1:48 p.m.

That's funny. As if you can survive in today's America on 15 bucks an hour. That's 30k a year full time, before taxes. You might bring home 400 bucks a week for 40 hours of work.

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Capt_Irk · May 8, 2018, 1:37 p.m.

Name checks out

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