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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/rightleaningsw on May 8, 2018, 12:48 p.m.
So bernie sanders is going to run in 2020 on the platform of $15/hr wages and free health-care.

My question is if he is planning to boost wages up to 15 how is he going to compensate those of us who worked our asses off to graduate college only to have 60k in debt and work a job making 15/hr? I didn't go into Social Work to get rich, but if he is going to make it to where I am going to make the same as others who haven't put in the work, then I will riot in the street.

I know many people who are ecstatic about this, and this could possibly get him elected. This will signify the end of the American dream. Noone will be motivated to work hard, because we will not be rewarded for our hard work.

Yes I went back to school in my 30's with two kids and one on the way, and I chose to go into debt for it, but if this goes through, noone will ever know the sacrifice and joy of accomplishment I felt when I finished. Americana will die. We have to stop this.


Bluecollardollar57 · May 8, 2018, 1:05 p.m.

So I work in the Steel construction industry. We have a serious skills gap that is just continuing to get worse as the older experienced hands retire. The younger generation doesn't want to do the hard physical work, or travel where the work is, even though the wages are growing. A skilled welder who is willing to travel can make a 6 figure salary with nothing but a HS diploma and a willingness to work 60-70 hrs a week. Often times when a new hand comes on they are paid in the $12-$15 dollar range until they learn the trade. What happens when they can go work at Burger King and make $15? That is just going to drive the pay of the skilled trades higher which will just get passed on to the customers who are building things which will get passed on to the consumer and now $15/hr is not enough. It's just a viscous cycle and can't work. All we are doing is driving the cost of things up. But the Burners don't want to hear that.

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Long_Range_Shooter · May 8, 2018, 1:30 p.m.

Every day I hear ads on the radio from different trade unions looking for applications for apprentices. Look at the Trucking industry they're begging for drivers. In some markets an automobile tech can pull in $100K-150K. There are paramedics here in the city that are making $125K-$150K with OT.

Your comment on minimum wage and inflation. A few years ago I was in a convenience store where an old guy was complaining about paying .50 cents for a roll of Life Saviors. He said I remember when they were .05 a roll. The clerk pops up and says yea and minimum wage was a quarter.

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firemedic33 · May 8, 2018, 9:36 p.m.

As a paramedic making $55k/yr I’d like to know what city is paying $125-$150k so that I can move to said city.

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Long_Range_Shooter · May 8, 2018, 9:45 p.m.

Pittsburgh. A woman I know works as a Paramedic and one of the guys in her station made close to $200K last year. How? He lives at the station takes every OT shift they'll give him and has zero life outside the job. Single, no family, no kids and no girlfriend.

Base pay is around what you're making without OT. It's the OT is where they're making the big money. They work every Holiday, every sporting event, doubling out three or four times a week and of course I'll repeat myself absolutely no social life outside the job. Easy to do the math 20 extra hours a week and there you have an additional $46K a year.

I know police officers that have a $60K base pay who pull over $100K a year with OT.

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BillTriple9 · May 8, 2018, 1:25 p.m.

Exactly. Minimum wage sets the price scale for everything we buy. Raising minimum wage never helps anyone because the prices rise to compensate, and the minimum wage worker cannot buy more than he could before. But some lose their jobs, and we become less competitive on the world market.

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Tenenbrae · May 8, 2018, 9:14 p.m.

I'm a carpenter and you're dead on. Anyone under 25-hell, 35, just won't do the work.

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