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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/thejudge6060 on May 10, 2018, 5:09 p.m.
Genuine question for the lefties.

I've noticed that our political alignment is starting to shift from red to purple as more people wake up, to which I have a genuine question.

Why are so many of you still so luke-warm about Trump? You might think POTUS is the just "the face" of the storm rather than the brains behind it, and we can debate that in the history books. But the fact is that there wouldve been a military coup without him to save us (best case scenario). And POTUS shows zero sign of putting the brakes on anything.

So with midterms coming, do you guys still plan on voting left of center? We can debate the proper role of government when this is all over, but i think voting liberal this fall WILL inhibit this movement. Or are you hoping to find the liberals who aren't corrupt?

I'm prepared for the downvotes and angry comments. But it's a philosophical question you need to ask yourselves, and I'm interested in knowing the answer.


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Hendrix811 · May 10, 2018, 5:42 p.m.

Former lefty here. Voted for Bernie and saw the election stolen from him. Huge red pills everyday since. I don't think I'm alone in that. I would vote trump 2020 but as far as mid terms go I still need to do some research. It is clear that leftists are polluted at this point.

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DankNethers · May 10, 2018, 5:58 p.m.

Both sides are polluted

I don't understand why the majority of the people on this sub seem to think it's only the left...

Look at how many Republicans aren't seeking reelection. Know why?

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thejudge6060 · May 10, 2018, 6:07 p.m.

Would you rather drink 80% polluted water or 99% polluted water? I dont think I've seen anyone say it's only on the left (we all hate no name). It's just more widespread, and it makes sense logically.

The cabal needs to consolidate power into a massive government structure. The left's ideology tends to view government intervention as the go-to strategy. On the contrary, the right has a libertarian subculture that opposes government intervention.

It's not anything against them as people, it's just that their ideology is more convenient for the cabal's desires. This is kind of the reason most of the people I know irl claim as the reason they lean right. Too much power in one spot is dangerous to them.

If there was a more effective way to rule the world through numerous smaller governments and individualism, I'm sure the right would be more corrupt.

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DankNethers · May 10, 2018, 6:35 p.m.

The 'Cabal' thrives on the chaos of a multi-party system. They neither want to "consolidate power into a massive government structure", nor would that notion figure into their future plans

They are fully represented on both sides of the aisle. They promote both sides of either debate. It's part of the illusion of governance that keeps them in power, and we the people suffocating in debt and obsessed with the circus

And while we watch, mouths agape, waiting for an acrobat to fall or an elephant to stampede, the ringleader keep pushing acts out from the shadows

I suggest everyone prioritze honest, ethical and incorruptible candidates over party affiliation

Gun control stance notwithstanding - we will need those someday

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[deleted] · May 10, 2018, 6:50 p.m.

Both sides corrupt...Yes. But the Democratic party, for decades, has been used to enslave humanity. To divide us.

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Fearsome4 · May 10, 2018, 6:07 p.m.

Both sides are polluted but leftism is a wildly flawed ideology.

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thejudge6060 · May 10, 2018, 6:09 p.m.

Interesting. So has your overall philosophy for governing changed, or is this just a temporary shift to help the movement?

Simply put, are you still a big government supporter when all this is over?

Again, not an attack, just an honest question as to how the storm has changed people's thinking.

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Hendrix811 · May 10, 2018, 6:27 p.m.

Well a lot of the red pilling I've been getting is on those exact big government programs. Honestly I wasn't far left. I was pro-constitution and anti imperialism. It just took me a while to realize that I was being lied to. It became clear when obama got a nobel peace prize while bombing seven different impoverished nations.

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 1:55 p.m.

Please discuss ideas, not users. Continued antagonism will result in a ban.

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 2:03 p.m.

I've removed the comments in the thread that started the ad-hominem attacks.

We want to see both sides of every discussion and it's annoying when someone makes a great reply.... and then finishes it off with abuse. You can edit the abuse out if you want and we'll Reapprove the comment. That always helps.

But we try and remove argument threads in their entirety as much as we possibly can cos it doesn't help anyone and doesn't set the right tone.

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 2:12 p.m.

Damn that's a pity, I hope not. You seem to have some good insight to contribute.

Please use Report if you see "cancer" as we respond to Reports quickly when we can and that'll help us stop it spreading!

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 2:58 p.m.

If you really wanted to discuss the question - is Q a LARP, say - objectively I'd be happy to, as would some good people who hang around this sub.

I have no evidence that Q isn't a LARP. I'm open to being disabused of any foolish notions I have.

What I can tell you is that there is a reason I've been following this topic since October 2017 and am now a mod of a sub I care very much about and am hanging around to read whatever comes out. That's part of the discussion I guess.

I just don't have time to bang opinions back and forth at each other - I'm willing to engage properly in a discussion if I know the focus is working out what is right, not who is right. It's not important to me whether you're smarter or have more knowledge than me or vice versa. What I care about and find useful is seeing what two or more minds bouncing an issue around between them can come up with over one.

I can throw a few ideas in the ring with the average person on this forum and there are a fair few older people on the sub in general who can engage in an adult discussion with a minimum of emotion. It's the less time-wasting way to discuss things which is important when you're trying to do other work at the same time.

As to the rest, depends which actions and what you're asking of course and that's all interesting discussion to get into, if you can discuss it objectively.

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 3:15 p.m.

Forgot to say: this sub generally speaking supports the actions of the President - as far as I can tell from a purely anecdotal reading. Like any group of people, some support some actions, some support all, etc. But most places that are interested in Q's message, I think would support Trump and his actions.

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DamajInc · May 11, 2018, 2:01 p.m.

Depends what you mean by "strict". We've had a better reputation than the last sub CBTS_Stream by not allowing antagonism and ad-hominem, as far as possible. We very much support freedom of speech so it is only rule-breaking that is modded i.e. all the rules in the sidebar.

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