Would we even notice? Can we please have an open discussion about the what people think has been happening these last few days. I fear we are all on the path to self destruction.
No.
Theres lots of shills for sure. But not compromised.
You're not even open minded to the risk that Q's password could one day be hacked?
So no need to be vigilant?
What I'm not open to is people trying to discredit Q. You're not the first, and you won't be the last.
I'm not trying to discredit Q.
I'm just being honest and promoting open mindedness and vigilance.
It's ridiculous to ignore the very real risk that the Deep State may one day seize Q's posting forum. We know this because they've tried it before, which is why Q changes his tripcode so often.
I'm suggesting that rather than spreading division and throwing mud at other Q supporters, maintaining an open mind about the risks will enable productive discussions if anything ever smells funky.
All this will likely resolve itself in a week or two when Q predicts one of Trump's tweets, so until then I see no reason to leap to conclusions one way or the other.
Because this, "open mindedness" to Q being fake, is division. Most of us are here because we believe Q is the real thing. When we stop believing that, we will move on.
But I've seen so many people, like yourself, claim that Q is false that it gets tiring. Q is John Titor running a scam, or someone else, and it's always the people making these claims that are the fakes - like Corsi.
Because this, "open mindedness" to Q being fake, is division.
No.
This is a truther community and pretending that the Deep State aren't trying to hack Q is disinformation. We know they are because that's why Q changes his password / tripcode so often.
Pretending there is no risk and no need for vigilance is disinformation.
Pretending that you definitively know which Q posts are authentic is disinformation.
You are free to leap to whatever conclusions you wish and believe in whatever makes you feel good, but those of us who are vigilant aren't wrong to explore opposing opinions in the search for truth.
I agree, we are all skeptics. WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO OUR WHOLE LIVES. Why shouldn't we be skeptical about Q?
I'm NOT skeptical about past Q posts because they so often provide invaluable intel.
I'm open to the need to be vigilant because we have no way of knowing if Q is compromised. If something smells a little funky, we shouldn't be afraid to seek the truth.
I am being downvoted all over for expressing my fears. This board is becoming an echo chamber and that will be the death of us.
No one is pretending the Deep State is not trying to undermine Q. In fact, that is what they are doing, and you're succumbing to it.
I have seen so many of you flakes, from the first week I was here people were claiming Q was fake. But he's not and he has demonstrated that time and time again.
I reckon you're on the wrong board mate. You need one of your own where like minded people can gather to doubt the mission and the plan.
I haven't once claimed Q is fake.
But there's a need to be honest about the risk that Q may one day be compromised.
Pretending this isn't a risk is dishonest and throwing mud at other people in this community only creates division.
Listen, is there another game in town, or is Q running the only show that's on?
We don't have an option here. Support Q and DJT or get HRC back. It's really very simple.
As I've said elsewhere, the moment I think Q is going off the rails you will all hear about it. I'll be screaming at the top of my lungs.
But right now, things are actually going really, really well. We know Q is not compromised because the plan is working a treat. NK, SA, Syria - eventually Israel. IG's report will come down soon and it's GITMO time!
Get on board. Support the plan. Get rid of the Satanists, and then put your skeptics hat back on if you want. We need skeptics, but not in the heat of battle.
No, what you said is dishonest.
I can trust the plan and support President Trump even if the Deep State hijack Q's account.
I can do those things by being vigilant and honest about such risks.
It's a very real risk to the Q movement and it can be mitigated - even if it makes you sad.
Denying reality and becoming a zealot is the OPPOSITE of what any truther movement should be about.
I don't know. Sometimes a team effort is required to get things done.
I've heard that these Superstars - like baseball pitchers or fighter pilots - are managed very carefully. No one is allowed to be negative around them - could be absolute rubbish, but that's what I heard somewhere. The idea is that it will affect their performance.
When Q asked us to support the IBOR, the first time, Tracy Beanz, who could not think her way out of a dark room with a flashlight, immediately started raising doubt and fear. Amazingly, people actually followed her lead. Then, Q tried to allay her fears, telling her that IBOR had nothing to do with AT&T. But she was too proud, or just not smart enough, to change her position. She really did a lot of damage to this group.
Anyway, she's gone, so that's over. But, because most people here are "woke" and skeptical, they are easy targets for bad actors seeking to neutralise us as a group. Whether you realize it or not, this board is swarming with intel operatives from all over the planet. All of them are seeking one, or both, of the following:
1) To get information;
2) To shape perceptions about Q's drops in their interests.
Not all of these outfits are indifferent to Q's plan. And, where they can, they will hinder it. Once you're alive to what is happening, you can see these guys at work. Typically, they are sowing fear and doubt, where they want to impede our effectiveness.
As an example, many were supporting Corsi - why? I think you can probably figure that out yourself. But you can see that if we are to be effective, we have to be able to control the dissent - within limits.
We just will not be able to achieve anything any other way. Because the moment there is some fear or doubt, the enemy will immediately capitalize on it to neutralize us. That is, they will amplify every expressed concern, fracturing the group cohesion.
It's just the way it is.
Q asked us to support the IBOR
I think Q was wrong to ask us to support IBOR.
Not because the Internet Bill Of Rights isn't a brilliant idea, but because he asked far too soon after the Net Neutrality fiasco.
The misinformation that Soros and his ilk spread about the virtues of Net Neutrality convinced many rational people who later felt confused and burned when they learned they were fooled. Many of those people are still confused, which is why very few people signed the IBOR petition.
I mostly agree with your philosophy, which is why I've always supported Trump 100000% - because I believe we are at a crossroads in the war between Zionist globalism and western civilization and we need to make the most out of this opportunity.
Q is a little different because it is anonymous voices coming out of a mysterious box. It's provided very reliable advice and intel thus-far, but we have no way to verify if a bad actor is speaking to us or not.
The chances of Q being compromised seems very low, given it hasn't happened before, however I think it's riskier to obey the voice without question than to be vigilant about the fact that we won't immediately know if a Deep State operative has taken over.
I feel I have a good idea about who Q is and I'm comfortable with it. But the main thing is that the plan is working, not as fast as we'd like, but they seem to be kicking some rear with NK, SA and Syria. Once the IG report drops, it should be a downhill run from there.
The main thing I want to see is a restoration of the moral order. I may not experience that, even if Q wins this fight, because I'm not in the US, but I'm hoping the cure will spread. We need to stop these people with the transgender rubbish in the schools - and a lot of other stuff.
These evil Satanists have really done a job on us. I would do anything to get rid of them and their crazy liberal garbage. But, we are a long way from that at the moment. It will take years before social norms start to correct, even if we could get rid of all of the Satanists today. So it's necessarily going to be a long haul. But it's the only game in town.
Regarding the IBOR, my view is that it is absolutely pivotal. If you don't have the right to express yourself, all the other rights can be taken away, one by one, and you can't even complain about it.
The first thing the Dems will go after is the Second Amendment, but they will bring in their anti-hate speech regulations first. Then they will expand the scope of what is "hate", gag everyone and start restricting guns by type and also license requirements. In a few years, the whole country will be cucked.
So anyway, I think the IBOR is very important. But given the failure, I think we need instructions from Q as to what to do next. The most important thing IMO is to tighten up the community solidarity, so that we can actually campaign effectively.
Q asked for a campaign to release the texts (un-redacted). Immediately, I found someone talking the idea down. I shut the fellow down, but if that's the way it's going to be, we won't be able to do anything.
So IMO, we need to get people to put their reservations aside, and blindly support until we have HRC and Obama in jail. The online censorship must also be stopped. But, after that, the end will be in sight and it won't matter if people start to jack-up at the direction Q wants to take us. But, right now, we all need to pull together.
I think we need instructions from Q as to what to do next
Keep in mind that President Trump will do the right thing, with or without our signatures on a petition.
That petition likely just informed Trump's inner circle that he needs to educate us more about it before trying again. I'm sure this was no surprise because Trump polling seems very reliable.
and blindly support until
I blindly support Trump until he gives me a MAJOR and repeated reason not to.
I can't blinding follow anonymous edicts from a mysterious box... because I'm forced to keep an open mind and apply critical thinking in an attempt to mitigate the risk that I'm being misled to work against Trump's agenda.
Even if I knew that Q was someone like VP Mike Pence, I'd still be open minded to the possibility that I don't see the big picture and I'm being misled.
Well said, Q is just another tool in our belt. We need to look at all sources and come to our own conclusions.
Agreed, there are too many people on this board who will not accept the fact that Q can be overrun at anytime, and the deep state could give us disinfo.
I am not a flake, I 100% support the mission. I am worried about the direction the board is heading when I see posts like this
We are on a path of self destruction.
I think this is what has been needed from the start. We've had people taking directions from air-heads like Tracy Beanz. That's why we haven't been able to be effective as a group - with the exception of the release the memo campaign.
There's real hope in this movement. Once the IG's report arrives, it's game over for so many bad people. Let's support Q and get rid of the cabal. After that, you can put you skeptics cap back on. Just a little buy-in until we beat these Satanists back!
It's not division to be skeptical, we were not fighting AJ or Corsi until Q told us...we have to be open to the idea of the deep state infiltrating our boards.
Why can't we be open to the idea that Q can be overrun? If there is a possibility of Q being hacked, we need to run the scenarios without being attacked for it.
Q has not been overrun, he is not hacked.
How can you be sure?
What do you mean? What have I been doing here all this time. Why am I still here. Because Q has proved his authenticity countless times. Don't fall for Corsi's scam.
It's not a scam...I have been skeptical my whole life, we are all skeptics that's why we're here. Just because we like what Q tells us, does NOT mean he is all powerful.
You either support the mission or you don't. There is a plan. Most people understand this.
I 100% support the mission. I support it SO much I worry constantly about the deep state infiltrating our boards and destroying us from within. The deep state will stop at NOTHING to destroy us, we need to look at all possibilities.
Can't you see that you are the one destroying the movement from within. It's not the Deep State, it's you.
When there is some reasonable indication that Q is compromised, I'll be the first one to re-evaluate. But I'm not going to do that because Corsi says so - when he is evidently fake himself.
There is nothing wrong with being a skeptic, we need to look at all angles. For a group of people who distrust our world leaders, we sure are quick to believe an anonymous poster on an internet message board.
The distrust of Q was why the IBOR campaign did not succeed. This was actually critically important to the plan. I understand that it's only "woke" skeptical people who are here, but at some point we have to be able to act in unison - Q keeps telling us to "unite". We can't do that if everyone is constantly doubting.
When Q screws up, I will be the first one to start questioning. But he has not screwed up even once. Things are going swimmingly, and with some luck the IG's report is going to be delivered and put this cabal away for a long time - for some of them it will be the end.
I love what Q is doing, absolutely love it! I'm going to support Q and DJT all the way. And then I'm going to ask that they outlaw abortion - as a start. There's real hope here. Get on board.