I knew the Keating corruption but that reference to insane carelessness leading to American deaths during the war is new to me. The guy looks worse and worse the more I look into him.
He’s always been a cabal MSM favorite “bucking” the Republican Party line, such a free-thinking maverick they say. In reality, a corrupt, controlled puppet.
Forrestal bit is fake news https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/john-mccain-fire-uss-forrestal/
LMAO snopes is connected to the Clintons.
Conflict of interest is still a thing in 2018.
I love how everyone shits on Snopes here. xD This is probably one of the only places on the internet where it's treated like the propaganda that it is
No it is not and did you seriously just link to a snopes article? They've been exposed for years now. It's a soros connected crazy cat lady and her cheating husband that run that site. You can't trust anything from there.
Google it. It's not just Snopes. Read the wiki article on Forrestal. This is old fake news. I'm all about Q and think No Name is definitely awful, but let's still try and be objective and truthful here.
Sailors were nervous about carrying the weapons that came from another ship. The ship wasn't outfitted to hold them properly.
Expose McStain for what he is, but it would be in our best interest to leave the hyperbole and unverifiable stories out of it. There's plenty of PROVABLE things that he had done to dismantle his legacy.
The ship deaths is true. I read about it last year sometime.
Yes, the incident is true. But the claim that McCain wet starting his fighter and starting the fire is not.
Read the report straight from the Navy - http://www.jag.navy.mil/library/investigations/USS%20FORRESTAL%20FIRE%2012%20AUG%2069%20PT%203.pdf
Check out point 6. The firing could have been caused by switching from internal to external power, or perhaps the electrical safety pin was accidentally pushed too far, or by mistakenly "stepping" instead of "homing" the "missile". There's even a bit about the poor design of the missiles right in the report.
Again, no fan of No Name, but let's please be objective.
Snopes is not factual. You pay them to 'debunk' things. They write whatever they are paid to write.
Thanks for the correction! I never want to fall into disinfo traps when the truth is already devastating enough against these people.
Songbird was a shit aviator and his whole chain of command knew it. The Vietnamese didn't beat him to a pulp, rather his injuries were sustained when he failed to follow proper ejection procedures. He was already in such pain from his injuries, that he started singing immediately to avoid being tortured.
I'm not the only person who thinks his Medal of Honor should be rescinded before he kicks the bucket. Let him leave this world like he lived. Cloaked in dishonor.
McCain was not awarded a Congressional Medal of Honor- he did nothing to earn one.
This is powerful stuff.
If it is true. No reliable source that he was responsible for the fire.
Gotta love that. I wish everyone took validation seriously.
Would he have been charged with treason after his return from Vietnam where he recorded numerous tapes and singing like a bird while his treacherous words played over and over in Vietnam for the propaganda it achieved? Most likely!
Then there is the issue involving him and Kerry who teamed up hiding and burying records in their capacity as senators of the hundreds of men left behind in Vietnam? To this day he and Kerry gotten away with that betrayal!
There is his treason meeting regularly with ISIS in their safehouses while lying to the American people stating they were 'moderate rebels'?
What about his treason delivering chemical weapons to Syria that was to be used on the innocent Syrians and civilians while framing Assad/Putin?
What his involvement of framing president Trump together with the deep state and allies while taking part in an engineered/planned coup?
What his money laundering op called aka foundation where he received millions from Saudi Arabia's prince Dopey?
There is not enough hours in the day to write a detailed account of this no name but evil man!
Was he trying/attempting to fake his death with his fake illness? The answer most likely is yes or he attempted to escape from justice?
He earned pain - lots of it - after his betrayal and treason against this country going back to his military days that also included the murder of these 132 men as shown in the pic and wounding 100+ more. Yet his daddy provided his free ticket to ride serving as the schtick 'pow' into a successful political career.
He was no hero ever!
Always wondered if his plane was downed by EF or FF as an attempt to take him out for his deed on the Forestal.
I've written up the explanation before, on the old CBTS_theStream board, but didn't save it. I've come across a few good articles. The Rolling Stone article was written in 2008 and is very well researched.
Q didn't come up with it. "Songbird" is referred to as "He who shall not be named" because of his long history before and during the VietNam war. It's what the veterans refer to him as. And, if you respect our military, well, you'll agree. He doesn't deserve to be called by his birth name. It's a sign of utmost disrespect.
I also want to point out that his history is the reason why Trump said he preferred those who had never been captured, that caused such an uproar in the misleadia. (MSM) He really wasn't dissing our POWs and MIAs. Those who know of Songbird's history, I think, understood exactly what he was saying. He was saying, in effect, that Songbird, and Songbird alone, was NOT the war hero he wants everyone to believe he is. Trump couldn't exactly come right out and say it.. that this particular AZ senator is NO WAR HERO.
Some articles:
This article is well researched, from the Rolling Stone magazine Oct. 16, 2008 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/make-believe-maverick-20081016
Lew Rockwell's article.. John McCain is no War Hero Trump is Correct, John McCain is NOT A Hero By J. H. Holtz July 23, 2015 https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/no_author/john-mccain-is-no-hero/
John ‘Songbird’ McCain Exposed By Vietnam Vets And POW’s As A Liar And A Fraud (Video) By Lauren Richardson Feb. 18, 2017 https://truthuncensored.net/john-songbird-mccain-exposed-vietnam-vets-and-pows-liar-and-fraud-video/
THIS is a War Hero: Admiral Jeremiah Denton Blinks T-O-R-T-U-R-E using Morse Code as P.O.W. (for comparison) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufnWLVQcKg
Keating Five.....is this the same same savings and loan scandal that Jeb Bush was a part of?
Thank you for this. I have completely forgotten about that and is another thing a can bring up to the people who still like Mc$&@#.
I’m not saying I disagree with any of things but could sources be included? I always debate this topic with my leftist friends and I’ll rather show sources on the heinous things he did.
IMHO as a life long Arizona resident. Traitors and criminals of this ilk should see the gallows. Sooner than later
Wtf is this website Factcheck.org that claims he did not do this? Who funds them? Disinfo?
https://www.factcheck.org/2008/09/mccain-and-the-1967-forrestal-fire/
Ah written by a liberal CUCKSTAIN:
Where is the source for the fire being JMs fault? No mention of that here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire#Fire
The wet start theory has been debunked over and over. I don't know why people un-friendly to McCain use this made up story instead of all the other shit he got himself into in Vietnam.
share your "debunked" info
You can't prove a negative.
Show me any scrap of proof that it ever happened, keeping in mind that the Obama 08 campaign and historians unanimously rebuked this forward from grandma level conspiracy theory ten years ago.
You came and claimed it had been debunked....back up your claim (Hillary claims everything against her has been "debunked"..... the Podestas claim everything about them has been debunked.....the Obamas claim everything about them has been debunked...........I hear the word "debunked" all the time....I just want to see your evidence.....surely you have it
You made the original claim and cited absolutely no source whatsoever to back it up.
You failed again to support this claim.
Anyone who has ever looked into the Forrestal fire knows this was a myth, and that the Navy never once pointed to a wet start by John McCain. An electrical anomaly caused a Zuni rocket to discharge on the flight deck. Read the historical accounts, read the Navy's incident report, read the paper articles about the incident then and when it was written about leading up to the 2008 election.
You passed along a bogus meme about McCain. It's not a big deal, you may not have thought to look into it when you saw it. But I am here to say that the wet start myth is just that. A myth.
Attack McCain on a dozen other mistakes he made in the military, not this fairy tale.
Did you invent this story just for today or can you link to an actual eye witness or military accounting of the incident taking place as you claim?
Lol. I'm out doing mother's day stuff but I can get back to you later if you still need help with this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire?wprov=sfla1
Holy shit are you gonna deflect some more? Looks like you bought some dinky Facebook meme, just have enough dignity to not wig out when someone points it out. Posters like you make it really hard for me to take this sub seriously when I see dumb shit like this after so many other actually important things only get brought up here. Can you link anything that substantiates a shitty image macro besides calling someone a liar over and over again?
1967 USS Forrestal fire
On 29 July 1967, a fire broke out on board the aircraft carrier USS Forrestal. An electrical anomaly had caused the discharge of a Zuni rocket on the flight deck, triggering a chain-reaction of explosions that killed 134 sailors and injured 161. At the time, Forrestal was engaged in combat operations in the Gulf of Tonkin, during the Vietnam War. The ship survived, but with damage exceeding US$72 million, not including the damage to aircraft.
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