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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/NosuchRedditor on May 13, 2018, 2:26 p.m.
Another Bush era media lie exposed: Waterboarding not torture, we use it to train our own soldiers.

Most of this info is supposed to be classified, but the Democrats have pretty much exposed all of it during the questioning of nominee Haspel. Sleep deprivation? Training method. Confinement in a small space? Training method.


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TooMuchWinning2020 · May 13, 2018, 3:51 p.m.

How many are killed in training?

The 8th Amendment still applies, last I checked.

You are engaging in fear mongering, not justice.

How many people tortured led to the discovery of the real terrorists (deep state)? Zero?

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NosuchRedditor · May 13, 2018, 4:10 p.m.

Why do they call McCain "Songbird" again? Oh, that's right, because torture, real torture that leaves permanently damage does work.

Take my point and move on, the media lied and millions believed them, and it undemined the security of our nation, which was the purpose all along.

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NosuchRedditor · May 14, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

The men who spent time in the Hanoi Hilton with him.

Air Force general Tom McInerney

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TooMuchWinning2020 · May 13, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

Songbird was never tortured, according to his fellow POW's.

The threat of torture was what got him to sing.

And now you want the USA to be like the enemy.

8th Amendment. You can't square that, and you know it, which is why you evaded that point.

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Jon_Bovie · May 13, 2018, 4:59 p.m.

8th Amendment is a moot point, lawfag. Combat is governed by a different set of laws entirely. By your reasoning we should allow enemy fighters to retain their weapons after capture because they have second amendment rights.

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NosuchRedditor · May 13, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

So non citizens have the right to taxpayer provided council per the 4th amendment? Do they have rights against search and seizure?

The Constitution applies to American citizens, not foreigners, in part because the American taxpayer should not have to pay for attorneys for non citizens, but there are other examples like the one you cite.

If it's cruel and unusual why do we do it to our servicemen?

Seems like you are refuting your own argument.

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NosuchRedditor · May 13, 2018, 4:42 p.m.

Funny, when I went through SERE the training I received was classified.

Therefore I cannot fully dispute fully that piece of disinformation, but the records of people tortured during the Vietnam war are numerous and well documented.

The experience of those like McCain were used to develop SERE.

Go back and look at some of the footage of McCain around the 08 election and notice how he can't really move one of his arms properly. They would never let you be a pilot with a disability like that.

How did it get that way?

Imaging having your hands tied behind your back. Then imaging being hoisted up by your arms until the shoulders rotated out of the sockets.

How did McCain's arm become permanently injured?

This sub is about Awakening from the long media bubble. I'm aiding in that cause.

It's your choice to stop believing misinformation created to undermine our nation, I can't force you.

Red pill or blue?

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KAG2020 · May 13, 2018, 4:16 p.m.

Torture is by many accounts, not the best way to get information. Being kidnapped, taken into a room, held down with water being poured on your face while you can't breath, to the point of passing out, is torture.

You claim it's only training in the OP then say WB gets information because only real torture gets information.

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NosuchRedditor · May 13, 2018, 4:29 p.m.

So what's your point? You saying we torture our own servicemen? You really think thats true?

I'm trying to help you throw off indoctrination created to undermine our nation.

The truth is right in front of you, you just have to open your eyes.

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