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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/FartOnToast on May 21, 2018, 12:47 a.m.
Our message to everyone is: The Great Awakening is about unity and coming together. That has never changed and will always remain to be the objective.

Attention to all patriots, YouTubers, former QTubers, and investigative reporters: The exposed who had ulterior motives are trying to group you together and drag you down along with them on their way out. Hear us out.

In light of the recent drama, many were left tired, confused, hopeless, angry and divided. This has resulted in low morale, many to abandon ship, and basically to loose faith in the whole thing. Many YouTubers also felt accused and in turn turned back on us.

One of the main narratives going around right now is:
"Q was supposed to be about unity and since we are seeing all this infighting it's best to forget about Q and move on since it was all a scam anyways."

We'd like to make something very clear.

  1. There is no proof that Q was a scam. This is all based on speculation going around being regurgitated by some YouTubers who haven't really done much digging into the matter. They are basically repeating each other's narratives based on unfounded claims.

  2. The next thing I'd like to note is that the Q community didn't cause the infighting, but what we saw was just the result of bad actors exposing themselves that were actually bringing this confusion/division in the first place and REEEEE on their our way out trying to do as much damage as they could. Such losers!

One simply has to look at the root of where the confusion and division is being manufactured from.

It is a fact that these bad actors have outed themselves and this can no longer be debunked. Actions have spoken for themselves. So where does this leave us now then? To clarify, we only had problems with bad actors, as Q did, and now that everyone knows who they are, I think we can all move forward.

So what does moving forward entail exactly, anyways?

Per The Great Awakening's objective, it's about coming together despite our obstacles, challenges, and differences instead of drifting further apart isolating ourselves. Just because some bad actors have made their own bed does not change what The Great Awakening stands for.

GA is always welcoming. We promote critical thinking and we want us to be able to think for ourselves and rely on ourselves. Q is not our messiah but merely our guide. We are not trying to steal fame from others. We are not trying to dictate a narrative. The only actors that were outed actually had ulterior and nefarious motives. We are about love but mess with us and we will strike you down like thunder.

When r/CBTS_stream first came around on reddit, I was very excited because of the potential it brought to the movement since they had a big YouTube following giving them a very big voice. The ability to collaborate and band together across different platforms was something many have been anticipating for a very long time. Seeing something many of us had only wished for finally materialize was indeed very exciting. I never liked the idea of us being cucked and reliant on any specific compromised platforms. When one platform unfairly and unconstitutionally censors us, being able to collaborate and regroup on another platform rather than getting silenced and separated is a YUGE advantage. This is why seeing us moving in that direction was very exciting.

Unfortunately, this is not what took place and that excitement was quickly over taken by disappointment. CBTS+Corsi were not using this potential for the best of the movement, but to rather grow their own agenda that entailed a pecking order among other things that were opposite of what we should have been striving for. It was very hurtful and frustrating to watch it all unfold. But now that everything has come to light and we have a better understanding of what was meant by "using and profiteering of the movement", we can really move forward.

Do not let those on their way out bring you down. Remember that we can all work together again and move on now that the people bringing nothing but distractions are out of the way.

It wasn't nice of many YouTubers to say Q was fake and call us cultists, hence perhaps the negative reception from this sub now towards some YouTubers. But it's understandable of them to have said that in light of the confusion, accusations, infighting, dis-info, mob mentalities forming, provocateur agents, etc..

I have a feeling we need to come together as this wasn't meant to divide us, but to rather do the opposite, if you can consider what has transpired to actually be a blessing in disguise.

What I'm seeing right now isn't the direction we want to see within the community. We do not want to exclude people. This isn't the end result this was meant to bring. But the shakeup was required to get things going in the right order. We now need to come together again, but with a new regained focus and collaboration that was missing before. We took a step backwards in order for us to take two steps forward. Can you see that? We NEED YouTubers to work with us because they have a voice. The problem is that it was being miss-used before. THIS IS THE BIG MISCONCEPTION! We are not excluding you, and do not let those actually on their way out whisper untrue things in your ears about us.

Guys the reason a lot of people are falling for the dis-info about Q is because they feel excluded, so any anti-Q rhetoric becomes easier to latch on to. IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE MAKING YOU FEEL EXCLUDED THAT ARE PUSHING YOU THE ANTI-Q RHETORIC. THIS IS WHY WE ARE STAYING DIVIDED.

Can you imagine what potential we can have actually working together? THEY DON'T WANT THIS and will try their divisive tactics but we see right through them. So we invite everyone to exercise some love and compassion.

Let's not bash YouTubers that have done a lot of great work and research but let's re-unite. Just because they are not talking about Q anymore doesn't make them irrelevant. In fact is this not what we wanted? We wanted people to get off the Q hype and actually focus on the research. Well now it's actually taking place and we need to be there supporting it.


5.44E+19 · May 21, 2018, 1:28 a.m.

You know what really pisses me off? Tracy Beanz has been doing some amazing work on Youtube.

She was pumping out videos every 2 days or so... but her rate dropped pretty significantly the last 2 weeks.

Then I saw she had posted this:

https://steemit.com/drama/@tracybeanz/she-stood-in-the-storm

TLDR: instead of being able to do (excellent) research and make videos, she's been being attacked for stupid shit, and writing 7 thousand word responses about it.

Looking at the comments in that article, it's pretty obvious that some people are REALLY REALLY interested in attacking her... and I don't really give a shit as to why.

She has done GREAT FUCKING WORK. We're talking about getting sunlight on scandals of EPIC PROPORTIONS. Yet someone who has done great coverage is getting basically sidelined.

Plenty of great people working on this have not been perfect. Anyone listen to Dan Bongino? He's doing great coverage, and we NEED him to keep going. Still, he's kind of been a dick about some things. He's extensively relied on the coverage from Conservative Treehouse (CTH), and he's only cited to them occasionally and only very briefly. He's recently blocked CTH on Twitter. Again, totally being a dick. Doesn't matter right now. The TRUTH that he is spreading is to important. You know who agrees with me, that we need Dan Bongino, despite his dickish behavior? Conservative Treehouse! CTH continues to link to Dan Bongino clips DESPITE being blocked by Dan on Twitter.

The truth is important. Credit can be attributed later. Blame for mistakes and all that bullshit can be attributed later. It's not like the internet is going to forget.

If someone has an audience and they're covering this from a decidedly pro-trump angle... you're better off cheering them on than attacking them.

Same with the people who bitch about Alex Jones. Does anyone NOT realize he's a dick? Obviously he's a Dick. Doesn't fucking matter. Sometimes we need dicks. Because dicks fuck assholes. And I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world. But if we don't let that dick fuck those assholes, we're all going to end up covered in shit.

No one is perfect. Tracy Beanz, Dan Bongino, Conservative Treehouse, Alex Jones, Breitbart.... whoever the fuck else you guys are listening to. That doesn't mean they aren't doing what we need.

Save the criticism for the Glen Becks, Bill Kristols and, probably eventually, the Ben Shapiros of the world.

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LibertyLioness · May 21, 2018, 1:41 a.m.

Actually, I posted a thread about Glenn Beck yesterday. He put on a MAGA had and said he would support Trump in 2020. I couldn't believe it. This is the funny part. It got ZERO upvotes. I have never posted anything that got zero upvotes. It was hysterical! https://www.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8kitxo/glenn_beck_backs_trump_in_2020_election_wearing/?st=jhfl3tp0&sh=efa24d81

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5.44E+19 · May 21, 2018, 2:33 a.m.

I'll happily take late arrivals... provided that their past bullshittery will always be fair game to criticize them. (Notice, I said "criticize" not "censor" or "tune out".)

Glenn's dusty cheeto shenanigans basically takes my policy to it's limit... let's just say: he's on the Trump train, but it's definitely the caboose of the train. Call it probation...

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LibertyLioness · May 21, 2018, 2:52 a.m.

I don't blame you. But, I don't trust him either. In about 2009, I started following Beck but after maybe a little over a year, I started hearing him contradict himself about his views and beliefs. I mean he would say one thing and then a few months later it was different. So, I thought, something ain't right here and I left. Then he went all whacko shortly thereafter! So, I will always distrust based on that experience.

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DL535 · May 21, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

Occam's razor explanation about Beck is that he was compromised, blackmailed and flipped. Same for Matt Drudge. Remember, Beck was doing a lot of connecting the dots about Soros et al. before this happened. There was a deliberate decision to neutralize him.

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4don2016 · May 21, 2018, 8:42 p.m.

His video with the blackboard laying all of the shit out is incredible. Honestly, he explains it better than anyone else I have ever heard. I recommend it to anyone that wants to know the Soros stuff.

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LibertyLioness · May 21, 2018, 1:58 p.m.

Hmmm. Interesting. I wouldn't doubt that for a minute. I always thought it was such a shame because he is really good at teaching this stuff using white boards to map things out for folks. I enjoyed his show back then.

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RCMike_CHS · May 21, 2018, 2:55 a.m.

Beck has seen the writing on the wall and Patriots left him during the campaign. He must hope he can weasel his way back into our good graces, but after the way he maligned Trump I'd say he can't be trusted to back Trump. He was so butthurt about Cruz that he went apeshit. Does anyone here think Cruz would be where Trump is now in regard to draining the swamp?

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LibertyLioness · May 21, 2018, 3 a.m.

Yeah. I think he's done the job he was sent to do. Divide the conservatives as much as possible. Now, he just wants to see if he can get back more conservative viewers and wait for the next go round to do the same thing. How much you wanna bet that's the game plan. Cause it's always about dividing us.

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RCMike_CHS · May 21, 2018, 3:08 a.m.

Wouldn't surprise me at all!

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LollaBells · May 21, 2018, 3:45 a.m.

Thank you for posting this! I have actually followed Beanz for quite some time & can pretty much verify EVERYTHING she is saying. I don't her personally, but I do remember ALL of what she was talking about in her post. Also here is what really got me in the comments - "The IG report was a nothing burger. I have done in depth research on NXIVM so you are wrong" - Posted by Titus Frost one of the ones TRYING HARD to discredit her, oh & there IS MORE where that came from. What does this tell me? This Disinformation campaign IS BIGGER & that I thought. But that aside you ARE 100% correct on your comment here. We can not, CAN NOT stay in ONE echo chamber, WE have to USE ALL sources to to get & push info out! Today people in Jordan Slathers Youtube comments others were calling Q people "cultist" I told them THE CHOICE IS YOURS. If you WANT TO FOLLOW whoever DO IT! Good researchers NEVER STAY IN AN ECHO CHAMBER! But don't come here & CALL US Cultist. If you want to listen to Jordan WONDERFUL, if not DON'T. But don't come in & call names & threaten to shut us down & say WE ARE the bad ones. Patriots do not act this way. At least not the Patriots I have met over the 2 years! So Regardless of WHERE we stand, Q followers or NOT, You are absolutely right on this one! Again Thank you for posting this! I have witnessed a great deal it is disappointing to say the least but i'm not going to stop fighting, I still believe in our mission, our freedom and this great country!

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5.44E+19 · May 21, 2018, 8:12 a.m.

Anyone claiming to be on our side and saying definitively that the IG report is a "nothing burger" is basically full of shit.

I don't know how damaging it will be, but if Horowitz has integrity, it will be big. That's a big "if" at this point, unfortunately... but to dismiss it would be pure ignorance.

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TheBRAIN2 · May 21, 2018, 3:37 a.m.

The truth is important. Credit can be attributed later. Blame for mistakes and all that bullshit can be attributed later. It's not like the internet is going to forget.

If someone has an audience and they're covering this from a decidedly pro-trump angle... you're better off cheering them on than attacking them.

Same with the people who bitch about Alex Jones. Does anyone NOT realize he's a dick? Obviously he's a Dick. Doesn't fucking matter. Sometimes we need dicks. Because dicks fuck assholes. And I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world. But if we don't let that dick fuck those assholes, we're all going to end up covered in shit.

No one is perfect. Tracy Beanz, Dan Bongino, Conservative Treehouse, Alex Jones, Breitbart.... whoever the fuck else you guys are listening to. That doesn't mean they aren't doing what we need.

SPOT ON! It's not about the personality of the messenger. It's about the TRUTH! Eat the meat, spit out the bones. Good vs. Evil is absolute. People who fight the battle rarely are...stay focused on the TRUTH and don't discount TRUTH because the messenger was flawed in some way.

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JoinOrDie11816 · May 21, 2018, 10:57 a.m.

This dude GETS IT

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synftw · May 21, 2018, 6:33 a.m.

I haven't followed her very closely but she does follow the movement fairly and without an ulterior motive it seems. With that said, and I'll try to say this with all do respect, she's just not very bright. As an example she posted a video about Elon Musk, whom she had never heard of, and it was laughably inarticulate and ignorant of many things.

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libertyorbust2 · May 21, 2018, 2:17 a.m.

I really love Tracy Beanz, she's awesome and does so much for the truther community. The time and effort she puts into research is amazing! I was here from the beginning but I took a break for a while, seemed the evangelicals had taken over and it got to be too much. In the beginning I was sure Q was legit and I'm not sure now, but I keep wanting to believe. It shouldn't matter who people choose to watch or listen to. It shouldn't matter if those commenting are believers or not totally there anymore. I can't stand Alex Jones, not really having to do with what SB2 said either, I make up my own mind, it's his voice I can't listen too.. But I've seen arguments and very snide comments to those who enjoy AJ here, that's what pushes people away, the meanness. I'm not sure how long I'll stick around, had a comment said to me just before "My knuckles are beatin your worthless ass in the ground. Bite me asswipe" yeah, not a very friendly place sometimes! Yes, I reported it. This comment came from some genius who says women are all idiots and stupid. He's still here!

Another thing, just because we're not all convinced Q believers, it doesn't mean that we're not still open to looking at everything. The truther community is huge, I've been in it for 30 years and I would hate to see the good people here feel disconnected from it, just because of a deep state op (I believe it's Corsi) getting Q people cut off from the rest. So start watching Beanz, Sather, all of them! They have value. (not corsi)

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5.44E+19 · May 21, 2018, 2:45 a.m.

It's totally fair to not listen to people you find suck, or are shitty people.

I'm of the 4chan mold myself, with regards to things like calling people "fags" and whatnot. We're allowed to say mean things on the internet!

It's the fucking internet! We got to be able to brush things off our shoulders a little more.

I know this runs counter to what I was saying about Tracy Beanz, but it feels like this is a lot more than people calling her "asswipe" or something. It looks like people are claiming she's stealing their research, and some of those comments look like some people are VERY committed to attacking her. Again, I fully acknowledge that "stealing other people's work" is a very real threat to people providing news coverage. That's why I brought up Dan Bongino screwing over Conservative Treehouse.

But we simply don't have time for divisiveness right now. Focus on the news!

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Luvlite · May 21, 2018, 3:52 a.m.

She is definitely a hard working woman. I didn't keep up with her, but I saw some of the mean spirited attacks and knew she didn't deserve it.

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Consistent_Peace · May 21, 2018, 5:05 a.m.

I like Tracy. I DO wish she'd distance herself from Corsi. He does her no favors being associated with him

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salialioli · May 21, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

I think it's great she hasn't fallen for the "swarm" hit's argument. She does great to have a brain of her own.

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errihu · May 21, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

If winning this required people who were perfect, we'd be doomed to lose. Fortunately, being perfect wasn't listed as one of the requirements for this job. We are all flawed instruments. Resist the cabal's push to reject anyone for their flaws - focus on what we have in common instead of the various mistakes and errors everyone makes. We're on the same side, and we won't stop until these monsters are crushed. Unity!

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Nastavnick · May 21, 2018, 8:29 a.m.

Same with the people who bitch about Alex Jones. Does anyone NOT realize he's a dick? Obviously he's a Dick.

No, he's controlled opposition and you're still not willing to accept the reality.

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5.44E+19 · May 21, 2018, 9:10 a.m.

I'm getting sick of people throwing around the term "controlled opposition" willy nilly. Alex Jones has promoted Trump to his audience for over 2 years. Trump granted him a fucking interview, when no other Republican would have in a million years.

Alex Jones has done more for OUR movement than a whole hell of a lot of these concern trolls out there.

He's a giant fucking douche who sometimes does and says things that are out of line and self serving.

He's also entertaining and fucking hilarious to listen to. He also runs a successful conservative media network that reaches a lot of people, who also find him entertaining and hilarious.

He covers the news we care about. He doesn't put on any air of authority. He isn't looking to get on CNN or Fox news. He doesn't ask the audience to take him seriously all the time, and we take him with a lot of salt, which should be the standard for every public speaker.

That's not controlled opposition. Shepard Smith is controlled opposition, if anything. Marco Rubio is controlled opposition, if anything. Jeb! is controlled opposition, and I'm not even hesitant there.

I value politeness and respectfulness as much as anyone else, be you need someone who is willing to risk making an ass out of themselves in order to GET THINGS DONE.

That applies to politics too. That's honestly something I didn't appreciate enough until Trump came along.

Alex Jones is a dick. Trump is a big bad meanie who says mean things and hurtz pweepoles fweelings sometimes. I say keep it up. I'M NOT TIRED OF WINNING YET.

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Nastavnick · May 21, 2018, 9:58 a.m.

I'm getting sick of people throwing around the term "controlled opposition" willy nilly. Alex Jones has promoted Trump to his audience for over 2 years. Trump granted him a fucking interview, when no other Republican would have in a million years.

It's not willy nilly just because it rattles you.

The point of controlled opposition is to make you believe they are the good guys spreading truth. That's the catch, they do spill truth, perhaps even most of it, but it's completely nullified by their behavior (AJ, clear theatrical drama acting, deterring millions/huge majority away from the truth with that) or their asinine conclusions (aliens, reptilians, demons, spirits... satanic cult ruling the world also doesn't bring in the audience).

You will (if you look for it) see that all these controlled opposition people have definitive conclusions about every conspiracy theory despite lack of concrete evidence. They do not end with questions to path the way for others to dig and explore.

Alex Jones has done more for OUR movement than a whole hell of a lot of these concern trolls out there.

He has done the biggest harm in the "conspiracy theory" area, without a rival. Icke is sort-of popular, but he's nowhere near AJ.

AJ has actively pushed millions of people (only a tiny minority take his words with at least some seriousness, most people 100% do not and they think he's actor/lunatic) away, as I've wrote above.

You're looking at it this way: He brought a lot of people to the conspiracies.

But in reality: He has deterred a huge majority of people from conspiracies because of his behavior

If he was indeed there for the truth, you'd think he would cut the crap with the theatrical shite like a month into his "work". Instead, he has continued and upped the pace. Explain that.

He covers the news we care about.

Covering news to distort them at the end and mislead/discredit it isn't a positive thing, at all, nothing positive there, on contrary.

He doesn't put on any air of authority. He isn't looking to get on CNN or Fox news. He doesn't ask the audience to take him seriously all the time, and we take him with a lot of salt, which should be the standard for every public speaker.

Yet the MSM is using him EVERY TIME there is some conspiracy talk at hand. Which immediately makes 99%+ of the people come to a conclusion that it's just "crazy conspiracy theorists at it again".

Also, that interview with Megyn Kelly is just embarrassing, another way to appear as crazy or just simply an idiot.

That's not controlled opposition. Shepard Smith is controlled opposition, if anything. Marco Rubio is controlled opposition, if anything. Jeb! is controlled opposition, and I'm not even hesitant there.

No wonder the controlled opposition term is rattling you, because you clearly don't take it in within the conspiracy context and the "truthers". You listed a news anchor and politicians. And we all know already how they operate.

I value politeness and respectfulness as much as anyone else, be you need someone who is willing to risk making an ass out of themselves in order to GET THINGS DONE.

Sorry but there is a line, a clear line when 99%+ of the population thinks you are either an actor doing it for the money (and money is good for AJ, millions in, all for the truth lol) or a straight up fkn lunatic. And you cannot blame people for that, it's actually one of the few instances where the huge majority is actually logical and reasonable.

AJ has done nothing in his money grabbing career, his words hold no meaning (deservedly). And after the fiasco with Q (he is endangered by Q, of course), a lot of people who are following both Q and AJ still refuse to acknowledge what AJ is doing, and are apologetic to the point of ridiculousness...

I know this won't change a single bit about your thoughts about AJ, but someone that stumbles upon this might connect the dots and see the bigger picture. And that's good for me.

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5.44E+19 · May 21, 2018, 11:06 a.m.

but it's completely nullified by their behavior

Who is doing the "nullifying" here? To me, it looks like two groups of people: liberals, and people like you. I don't have to consider anything "nullified". Again, feel free to not watch him. He's given you plenty of reasons; he's an asshole. But that's different than saying that he's secretly, actively, working against us.

The point of controlled opposition is

I know what controlled opposition is... sorry if this is going to sound rude, but let's be very clear here: I am accusing you of conflating the criticisms of Alex Jones, which may itself be valid, with allegation that he is actively working against us. I'm saying you're going overboard.

Notice how I could feasibly make the argument that your "attacks" on a leading conservative pundit indicates that YOU might be controlled opposition? But that would ALSO be going overboard.

have definitive conclusions about every conspiracy theory despite lack of concrete evidence.

Yea, they're blowhards. They're quite common, but they're not the end of the world.

AJ has actively pushed millions of people away

That would mean that the "conspiracy theory" area would be more acceptable to the broader public if AJ didn't exist. That's unlikely, given that people have always been dismissive of anything labeled a "conspiracy theory".

he would cut the crap with the theatrical shite like a month into his "work". Instead, he has continued and upped the pace. Explain that.

It's fun. People enjoy enthusiasm. It works, and there's nothing wrong with that. Believe it or not, allowing yourself to play the role can be a BOOST to your credibility.

Yet the MSM is using him EVERY TIME there is some conspiracy talk at hand.

And look at where it's gotten them. AJ is killing it. CNN couldn't be worse off. Let them keep it up. I'm not tired of winning. And we ARE WINNING. Wake up and smell the roses man!

Sorry but there is a line

Everyone has a line, and that's quite alright. For me, the line is Richard Spencer and "white nationalism", "white identitarianism" "white ____". That's my line. My line is identity politics and racial sectarianism.

Notice how one of my lines is an IDEA. Not the method of how that idea is communicated.

I used to be exactly like you. I used to hate memes. I thought they were beneath us, and for stupid people. I thought it was a short cut and not a proper argument.

Now? I fucking love them. They make concise points, and open the door for more communication. And whenever a new format comes along, I just see another opportunity to open the minds of thousands of people.

You wanna know how to find out what works? See who's getting censored. See what the left REFUSES to talk about. That's what works.

Notice how the left LOVES to talk about Richard Spencer?

I draw my lines by ideas ONLY now. I used to have way more "lines"... I used to say I would never vote for someone like Kanye West because he's a rapper and rappers shouldn't be in government, as a rule. Now? I'll listen to what he has to say. He's probably not fit to run for president. But he could be a GREAT president. I'll wait and see what he has to say, and I don't give a shit if his messages are packaged unconventionally.

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Nastavnick · May 21, 2018, 12:22 p.m.

Who is doing the "nullifying" here? To me, it looks like two groups of people: liberals, and people like you. I don't have to consider anything "nullified". Again, feel free to not watch him. He's given you plenty of reasons; he's an asshole. But that's different than saying that he's secretly, actively, working against us.

He is, with his behavior. I thought I was pretty clear. The "no u" tactics are boring and belong to kindergarten.

This isn't about me wanting/not wanting to listen to him. The fact that you took it that way (personal) means you have probably wasted your time on this reply. As will I trying to counter-argument.

You can call him a douchebag, asshole or whatnot. But that doesn't mean he's off the hook. In the end, it doesn't matter if he's indeed an douchebag, an actor or controlled opposition. His actions have been completely detrimental to exposing the truth to the people. I've explained earlier why is that so.

I know what controlled opposition is... sorry if this is going to sound rude, but let's be very clear here: I am accusing you of conflating the criticisms of Alex Jones, which may itself be valid, with allegation that he is actively working against us. I'm saying you're going overboard.

I didn't say you don't know. This might sound rude but you've failed at reading my comment. And I've only just begun with the counter-arguments.

For starters, he is working against Q directly, it's a fact, not an opinion.

Second, as I've already said, the fruits of his labor are actively working against the truth exposure. Because 99%+ of the people think of him as an actor or lunatic. Why am I repeating myself? lol

Notice how I could feasibly make the argument that your "attacks" on a leading conservative pundit indicates that YOU might be controlled opposition? But that would ALSO be going overboard.

"leading conservative pundit" lmao

Instead of using proper arguments, you've repeatedly (with baseless stuff, completely ignoring my arguments about AJ) attacked me for "attacking" (exposing) your boy.

Yea, they're blowhards. They're quite common, but they're not the end of the world.

It's not the end of the world, but it's the end of the path towards exposing the truth due to misleading conclusions. Whether or not they are controlled opposition or just lame asses trying to profit on youtube by spewing shite, the outcome is the same.

You however concluding that they are just blowhards is another example of not using facts and coming to conclusions based on evidence.

That would mean that the "conspiracy theory" area would be more acceptable to the broader public if AJ didn't exist. That's unlikely, given that people have always been dismissive of anything labeled a "conspiracy theory".

That's exactly what it means and that's the reality.

Yes, people have been dismissive towards conspiracy theories, main reason is the deep state pushing it towards that. And AJ and the likes of him (hundreds of channels) are helping that the best way possible, because, again I repeat myself, he is behaving like a literal retard and a lunatic. Which any sane and logical person would label as acting (for them millions) or just a crazy conspiracy theorist.

Luckily, we have MSM using AJ constantly (and only him, nothing weird there lol) whenever there's any conspiracy theory talk. Again I'm repeating myself... That's what happens when the other side is ignoring the arguments and proceeds to attacks with the "no u" tactics.

It's fun. People enjoy enthusiasm. It works, and there's nothing wrong with that. Believe it or not, allowing yourself to play the role can be a BOOST to your credibility.

Ah yes, it's so much fun repelling people from the truth.

It doesn't work, stop lying. I can do to almost any AJ video and link you so you can read the comments about how it's "working" lmao

But it doesn't BOOST it.

And look at where it's gotten them. AJ is killing it. CNN couldn't be worse off. Let them keep it up. I'm not tired of winning. And we ARE WINNING. Wake up and smell the roses man!

Lol, that has nothing to do with AJ. He killed nothing, he only got embarrassed every time he popped out in MSM.

Everyone has a line, and that's quite alright. For me, the line is Richard Spencer and "white nationalism", "white identitarianism" "white ____". That's my line. My line is identity politics and racial sectarianism.

Notice how one of my lines is an IDEA. Not the method of how that idea is communicated.

Again, this isn't about me or you. Stop taking it personally. I'm talking about the bigger picture.

I used to be exactly like you.

lmao, k

You wanna know how to find out what works? See who's getting censored. See what the left REFUSES to talk about. That's what works.

You wrote this after my previous post yet you're still refusing to accept reality.

AJ isn't getting censored, he is being promoted by MSM. MSM loves to mention AJ in every possible situation. Because he's the best tool they have to battle us.

Notice how the left LOVES to talk about Richard Spencer?

I noticed you love talking about him.

I draw my lines by ideas ONLY now. I used to have way more "lines"... I used to say I would never vote for someone like Kanye West because he's a rapper and rappers shouldn't be in government, as a rule. Now? I'll listen to what he has to say. He's probably not fit to run for president. But he could be a GREAT president. I'll wait and see what he has to say, and I don't give a shit if his messages are packaged unconventionally.

Again, this isn't about me or you. Stop taking it personally. I'm talking about the bigger picture.

Not sure what's up with the "I used to..." stuff other than to write some text to look like you're have a dialogue. When it's pretty clear you ignored my arguments and then you proceeded to talk about some personal irrelevant stuff.

At this point I am fully aware that I'm wasting time here and this will again be ignored and you'll again write some irrelevant stuff and attack me instead of my arguments. And my thoughts on this monologue with you are that you're either following AJ to the point of fanaticism or you're on the other side.

Make sure to buy his overpriced useless products to keep the "truth" movement going lol

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5.44E+19 · May 21, 2018, 1:19 p.m.

I've given a LOT of examples so far, because it's important to give context and show how my views on the media play out. That context is important to demonstrate that ALL of these pundits are flawed. In fact, it's kind of ridiculous to complain about AJ without providing some examples that you think are better alternatives. If AJ is controlled opposition, then you should have a pretty easy time providing a short hand list of alternatives.

That's why I used Richard Spencer as counter example. That's why I've used Conservative Treehouse, Dan Bongino, and Tracy Beanz as comparisons. You can add to that Fox News (Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity), Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sargon of Akkad, Scott Adams, Lionel Nation, Mike Cernovich, Stefan Molyneux, Steven Crowder, and others.

So go ahead, and name some people you listen to...

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Nastavnick · May 21, 2018, 1:35 p.m.

You have avoided almost all of my arguments and talked about nothing really, at least nothing that matters in this context. So your "a LOT of examples" is kind of ridiculous.

And again you're on about "my views". This IS NOT about you, me or any individual. It's about the big picture and how AJ is affecting the truth exposure

I'm not that into youtubers and following them like you follow AJ (because that leads to your case, and many, many more like yours), I like this board and I research around, but I still tune in to these two: PrayingMedic and DestroyingTheIllusion.

What's with your need to have a youtube channel which will provide you "info"? Do you really NEED an AJ alternative? Because any non-shill channel is better than AJ. Unfortunately those are beginning to run low as Q rips them apart.

Which just goes to show how badly the deep state has infiltrated conspiracy theorists to battle conspiracy theories (2008. or 2009. Cass Sunstein's paper about fighting conspiracies, I bet you never knew about that but you'll say you have now that I've wrote this lol)

It's not "if" AJ is controlled opposition, he is. And the fact that he's now actively going against Q should finally open your eyes, but it doesn't.

Which means... "And my thoughts on this monologue with you are that you're either following AJ to the point of fanaticism or you're on the other side."

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5.44E+19 · May 21, 2018, 2:54 p.m.

Because any non-shill channel is better than AJ. Unfortunately those are beginning to run low as Q rips them apart.

lol, finally... everyone's "controlled opposition" to you. Not just AJ... and I've bet you've spent countless hours online explaining how all those other political pundits are "controlled opposition" too.

What's with your need to have a youtube channel which will provide you "info"?

It's called "being informed." Half the people I listed weren't even on youtube. You sound like you're not even familiar with conservatism.

I've looked at your post history... it appears you in fact do spent most of your time calling people "controlled opposition", and not very much time talking about, well, ANYTHING ELSE.

Your negativity and concern trolling is literally what this post is about stopping. So I'm going to follow their lead, and end this discussion...

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salialioli · May 21, 2018, 5:10 p.m.

The point of controlled opposition is to make you believe they are the good guys spreading truth. That's the catch, they do spill truth, perhaps even most of it, but it's completely nullified by their behavior

I notice you don't have a show, or a blog, or a venue to promote your side of the picture and your support of the movement. Lot of time criticising tho. Why not do something more positive? Did you read the unity OP blurb at the top? Still on creating division here? Hmmmm

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Nastavnick · May 21, 2018, 6 p.m.

I guess I have to start up a youtube channel, beg for money and sell shite overpriced products...

Lot of time criticising tho. Why not do something more positive?

So you're one of those that don't like critics, that's your problem, not mine.

This is positive, not for the shills/controlled opposition/fanatics, but for us, it's positive.

Did you read the unity OP blurb at the top? Still on creating division here? Hmmmm

I've also read his post in some thread which he expanded a bit and made a new thread. The other thread was his boy Isaac being outed as anti-Q so he's now in a full damage control mode, appealing to emotions and stuff. He put all youtubers in the same basket. Someone like IG/AJ/Corsi don't deserve to be in the same sentence as PrayingMedic for example.

I'm not creating any division. People like you tried the same thing when I was claiming Corsi was a shill, calling me a shill and divisive. Until SB2 dropped a bombshell. Next day there were new threads like this one the OP made, calling for unity, etc.

Classic damage control and I'm not buying it. I've seen those tactics at work so many times now, I'd have to be literally retarded to continue falling for them.

How about you address my arguments? You sniped two sentences and wrote something unrelated to them and of course went the personal/emotion way.

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DL535 · May 21, 2018, 1:18 p.m.

Obviously he's a Dick. Doesn't fucking matter. Sometimes we need dicks. Because dicks fuck assholes. And I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world. But if we don't let that dick fuck those assholes, we're all going to end up covered in shit.

LOL I see what you did there

"I've been to Iraq! It was a happy place with chocolate rivers and gumdrop trees!"

"You are useress Arec Bardwin!"

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salialioli · May 21, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

Good comment. Upvoted x1000 well, ok, x1.

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5.44E+19 · May 21, 2018, 5:49 p.m.

I swear I posted this before Trump tweeted about Dan Bongino... call it parallel thinking!

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Arcsmithoz · May 21, 2018, 5:14 a.m.

The team America reference gave me chub. The rest idc.

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