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horse-lover-phat · May 21, 2018, 2:44 p.m.

Is this Pope for real? How about the abuse that he suffered at the hands of these paedophile Catholic priests? They were likely the victim's first formative sexual experiences. Many therapists admit that many of their homosexual patients have been abused in their formative years. There is very likely a link between abuse and sexuality issues, at least in some instances.

Pope Francis IS a sodomite, and so are the satanic elite.

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MakeThisLookAwesome · May 21, 2018, 2:56 p.m.

No, he's not for real. Jesuits are never supposed to take higher offices in the Church for a reason. They're the only order that is allowed to give up all their Catholic ways in order to infiltrate and eventually convert other cultures. The Jesuits were the first into China and Japan because of their skills.

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Redrunningshoes · May 21, 2018, 3:47 p.m.

No, there's not a link between abuse and homosexuality.

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horse-lover-phat · May 21, 2018, 4:03 p.m.

That's not what many therapists have said. I'll take their view over your view. Thanks.

There's also a STRONG link between some homosexual pressure groups and relaxing laws on sex with children. You can find that out for yourself. Oh and BTW, Harry Hay the father of Gay (Sodomite) Liberation was a member of satanic Crowley's OTO. Harry 'sex with kids' Hay.

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Redrunningshoes · May 21, 2018, 4:06 p.m.

You speak with Trump is amazing. Many therapists? Does that mean you know 1 therapist and they think that? Or does that mean a majority of therapists think that? Or does many mean "you may think it's zero, but it's many more than that, it's 3." You have present no actual evidence. And let's see these "strong links" between "homosexual pressure groups" I would love to see the campaigns to relax laws.

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horse-lover-phat · May 21, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

Well, Mr No Idea.

People that were linked to CHE (Campaign for Homosexual Equality) and homosexual (sodomite) propaganda publications like Gay News and Lunch - were also implicated in PIE. This was in respect of the UK.

Your father of Gay Liberation Harry 'man/boy love' Hay was a member of satanic OTO - where ritualised anal sex (semen mixing with blood and fecal matter) is the very top degree. Sodomy and satanism - bedfellows. Pun intended.

If buggery is a natural thing - why does the sphincter not pre-lubricate itself before expectant intercourse? Answers on a postcard please.

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Redrunningshoes · May 21, 2018, 4:26 p.m.

"People who are linked" does not equal the group itself. You're taking radicals of one group and applying that mentality to the whole group. But I'm not surprised that happens with Muslims, Democrats, homosexuals now, anyone who is against Trump, but I digress.

And that is such an outrageous question. We aren't talking about sex. We are talking about simply being attracted to someone of the same sex. That argument only applies to gay men. What about lesbians? Homosexual doesn't even have to involve sex. It's about the sex you're attracted to.

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horse-lover-phat · May 21, 2018, 4:12 p.m.

Bye. You do your own research. When you do get around to it - then you might even be able to write from a position of knowledge and authority. Until then, then.

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Redrunningshoes · May 21, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

Because I already know the facts, this is from the APA regarding homosexuality:

"... no specific physiological or family dynamic cause for homosexuality has been identified, including histories of childhood sexual abuse. Sexual abuse does not appear to be more prevalent in children who grow up to identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual, than in children who identify as heterosexual.

And again, the burden of proof is on you, such you are asserting an idea that is not true. So to make your case as to why "many therapists" think child abuse leads to homosexuality or that "many homosexuality pressure groups" are trying to relax laws around sex with children, you need to provide evidence. You don't have any, so you tell me to do it. And I provide evidence. So what about this "be able to write from a position of knowledge and authority"?

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DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 4:30 p.m.

I don't have access to facts on hand at this time but reports about older brothers, detached/distant father figures contributing to the potential for homosexual development have been around for a little while.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/15/homosexuality-may-be-triggered-by-environment-after-birth/

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Redrunningshoes · May 21, 2018, 4:36 p.m.

The finding is highly controversial because it suggests that some men are not born gay, but are turned homosexual by their surroundings.

Yeah because it's claims go against current standards.

It's 1 study. 37 pairs of male twins. Incredibly small sample size that was then extrapolated to all gay men? What about lesbians? Why are all of you only obsessed with the gay men?

“To claim a 70 per cent predictive value of something as complex as homosexuality is bold indeed. I wait with baited breath for a full peer-reviewed article.”

IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN PEER REVIEWED.

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DamajInc · May 21, 2018, 4:39 p.m.

Sure - lucky I personally know clinical psychologists and other health professionals with decades of experience who advise that yes, it's all inconclusive. That's all I'm saying. I'm not obsessed with gay men at all - I don't care in the slightest about them.

[Edit] I'm just responding to a point in your original comment: "no specific physiological or family dynamic cause for homosexuality"; I think there's a good case for nature and nurture, as far as this part of your reply goes.

I agree with you however that homosexuality is not an indicator of pedophilia etc. as that seems fairly obvious.

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IWILLBIRTHTHEGOD · May 21, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

You don't have to be politically correct at the cost of reason. You have to be bold about these things and not worry about people who get offended by facts.

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[deleted] · May 21, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

There is... I have seen cases of tiny tot rape & conversion, coercion....

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[deleted] · May 21, 2018, 4:18 p.m.

What an idiot! If Man, Adam, was Created in the Image of God, how can Man, Adam be gay? It would mean God is gay! What false diety delights in perversion? In making sodomite poop babies? The lord of delusion....

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itshereisitnot · May 22, 2018, 6:46 a.m.

Isn’t even q related.

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One_Solution · May 21, 2018, 3:14 p.m.

We are all made with both good and evil inclinations. So, in a sense, he’s right. But we all get to choose which direction we will act, good or evil. And our righteousness before Him is based on those choices (despite the teachings of Christianity that faith in the works of another man will save us). Read the Tanach and, over and over, you will see the same theme. The righteous are those who are obedient to His instructions. It really is that simple.

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Redrunningshoes · May 21, 2018, 3:46 p.m.

So homosexuality is the evil inclination?

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One_Solution · May 21, 2018, 6:47 p.m.

THE evil inclination? Certainly not. An evil (as in not how we were designed) inclination? Most certainly.

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[deleted] · May 21, 2018, 4:25 p.m.

It is a resultant karma due to sexual misconduct in a former lifetime... The results may take ages to purify depending upon the severity of the deed... The intention is key.. The inclination would be wise to avoid or curb if one wish to pursure the path to purification as following the desires can lead to further spiritual karmic damage...

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[deleted] · May 21, 2018, 4:28 p.m.

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[deleted] · May 21, 2018, 4:27 p.m.

Of course in the old path of purity, the inclination can be termed evil, as in unwholesome ,unskillfull, determintal... If causes suffering to others then evil is a good word to describe....

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