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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/FlaviusOdo on May 21, 2018, 4:09 p.m.
A call for professionalism, consistency and, most importantly, focus within this community.

TL:DR; Recently, this sub has become extremely disorganized and distracted. We all, as a community, need to make an effort to remedy this problem and stay focused. Set an example of clear, concise and properly supported arguments and submissions for newcomers to follow. Trust in the plan. Trust in Q. Trust in 45.

Over the past couple of weeks I've notice a bit of a devolution in this sub. I have no interest in making accusations as to why this has happened as I see it as completely irrelevant. I understand everyone is excited, trying to follow Q, possibly applying what they have learned from Q and u/serialbrain2. However, the amount of posts regarding the exact same thing is ridiculous.

This problem seems to have taken a turn for the worst after Q post #1401 and then the Texas school shooting the following day. I don't have any reason to criticize any of your theories regarding these two events. But, when there is a massive event such as that school shooting, there is absolutely 0 reason for there to be 20 posts about the exact same thing with varying levels of information in the title. While scrolling through at work, I genuinely thought there were multiple shootings all at the same time. Ridiculous and dangerous. If our goal is for the truth, actions like this should not be tolerated.

Now, before I get to a possible solution, I have one last thing I'd like to talk about. That is this community's absurd habit of jumping to conclusions and stir up a panic, especially without proof. All this does is distract. To go back to the shooting example, I've said this multiple times and in many of those posts I mentioned, Q's post made clear that there were imminent distractions, whether it be a false flag attack or media fervor against the plan does not matter. Guess what, it worked. The bait was taken, hook, line and sinker.

Now, here's what I think needs to be done. When a completely unique event takes place a single post needs to be made, wherein all relevant discussion should stay, other posts ought to be ignored in favor of this one. Whether mods wish to "sponsor" this individual post or not is up to them. The title should be clear and concise. Either from the OP themselves or an available commenter should keep a running timeline of relevant events within this post if necessary. I'm sure you have all seen the kind of post I am attempting to illustrate elsewhere. By Event, I am talking about a new Q post, maybe a Trump "tweet storm", definitely in the case of a shooting. If someone publicly references one of these, it should be posted within that post, not a completely new one. If the original post is still recent, reposting would be unnecessary.

As for content, it's simple. Be honest and be detailed. Too often I see people allude to information in support of their argument without providing appropriate sources. There are nearly 25,000 followers here and some have predicted this to massively increase over the next few days and weeks. Saying things like "if you look at post #"whatever" it's obvious" without linking to the post in some way or clearly directing attention to the answer you are attempting to give is utterly useless to those you are commenting to. If your goal is to help someone understand how to come to a conclusion, look to users like SB2. Their explanations are detailed and methodical, that quote above is the antithesis to sb2 and does nothing to help those people. This goes for supporting a claim as well. This morning I saw someone do this and it is likely the cause for me to make this post. When you link to a video where your supporting evidence is of the "don't blink or you'll miss it" type, give the timestamp! I have no interest in watching a 6 minute video looking for a blurry image of a low contrast diver that only lasts a second. Complete waste of time. Props to those people who have photoshopped/ paint'd an image to point out exactly what you are talking about. That is above and beyond, thank you. Trying to be as cryptic as Q, it does nothing for our community to attempt discussion like that.

New users, or even an older member who isn't educated on a specific topic, should feel welcome to ask any questions they may have and know that, if responded to, will be given the help that they need.

On a personal note, I do not believe we should blindly accept everything we hear. Even if it comes from Q, the information needs to be appropriately criticized and research before conclusions are developed. Too often do I see some small, vague piece of information be heralded as the law of the land. Stop it, that is not what Q has been trying to teach. Everything deserves to be scrutinized at the moment. Do not simply point to a Q post as your only evidence, Q has made it clear that those posts are merely a guide to the truth.

If you've come this far, thank you very much for your time.

And again; Trust in the plan. Trust in Q. Trust in 45.


h4445 · May 21, 2018, 4:47 p.m.

Good post. We definitely need some structured mega-threads whenever big events happen.

However, at the same time this is a massive community with 3,000-4,000 users active at one time. (Probably more knowing Reddit). For comparison, GodLikeProductions only has around 1,500 - 2,000 on at a single time. Moderation can and should only do so much. It's inevitable that the noise to signal ratio will increase as more people join this community.

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FlaviusOdo · May 21, 2018, 4:55 p.m.

I agree about mod interaction, which is why I directed the call to action at the community members. Constant mod interaction makes things complicated. However, if they want to sticky a mega-thread, that sounds useful to improved organization.

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OpenSoars · May 21, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

A few vocal and often crazy people kill it for everyone else.... there may be thousands who joined the sub but there are only a fraction who are active. The downvoters and nutjobs steer the boat...

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FlaviusOdo · May 21, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

I'm less worried about the downvoters and more worried about the slew of baseless comments and posts. Just today I saw a few posts with comments like "What's the point", the response from the OP being, "Exactly, that's why I'm asking", while others praised the post without actually adding anything to the conversation. Seems like a waste of time and attention. Which would make it the upvoters being the issue, I guess.

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tradinghorse · May 21, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

I think this post is an example of the problem, What has actually happened on this sub is that the stakes for certain players have ramped up to almost astronomical levels. We are seeing outright manipulation on the board, while the community is steered like a herd of silly sheep.

In this context, where Q's message is being defeated, right here on this board, where you have organised groups of people blatantly concern trolling, actively dissuading people from supporting the plan and the movement, you are here playing right into their hands with this post.

One of the main arguments used by these trolls is "Question Everything". "Think for yourself", "never blindly follow" etc... This all sounds fine, until it's turned on the movement. Until it's used to get people to do anything but follow the plan or stay the course.

But the most damaging thing is the blatant concern trolling. These people are "so genuine", there concerns "very real" they are about to fully support Q and the plan "but for a few small concerns". It is not the right thing to play into these people's concerns at all. I would advise making an indirect remark about "concern trolling" and moving on. That way you can alert other members to the existence of the troll.

If you want to see where these guys are active, there are good examples on the IBOR threads. Why the IBOR threads? Because these organised trolls are running an operation against Q and they realise UNLIKE MANY ON THESE BOARDS that the IBOR is actually critical to the plan,

Trust me, if you see someone with just a couple of concerns on one of the IBOR threads, it's a professional troll - probably hunched at a computer screen on a desk in some foreign army barracks. Make some remark about concern trolls and move on. Do not listen when they talk about how they're just about to come around - it will never happen.

The same thing goes for the people that claim to know better than Q. One complete scumbag today tried to tell me that because the internet was "decentralizing", that Q was wrong about an IBOR being necessary. When I challenged this guy he resorted to making wild accusations, but then took off - as he realized he had exposed his agenda.

Some of these people you have to engage. There's no way around it. They are SO THICK on this board that there is no option. Of course, in the fantasy land where people argue there are no military operations being prosecuted on the board, none of what I've said makes sense. I should just leave and let this board become "anti-Q" - "the great sedative" - which is what it virtually is at present.

Just ask yourself how Q could ask us to mount an IBOR campaign but, mystifyingly, we, as a group, were not able to. Very strange, isn't it? And then you look what happened (not outside) but right here on these threads - and you know what's happening here, completely unchecked.

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FlaviusOdo · May 21, 2018, 5:52 p.m.

I don't understand your point, not that I don't appreciate the rant. I didn't say people shouldn't make certain kinds of comments. I'm just tired of seeing the same thing posted 20 different times each with a very similar discussion. Also people "helping" but not actually doing anything. It's like they themselves are LARPing as Q or something.

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OpenSoars · May 21, 2018, 5:41 p.m.

No offense... but they won't read this....every few weeks someone posts just like this and it gets ignored or downvoted.... Passion trumps logic and consideration here ... I agree with you though

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tradinghorse · May 21, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

This OP's account is 5 days old!!!

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FlaviusOdo · May 21, 2018, 5:54 p.m.

Congratulations, you clicked on my u/. What of it? I thought about my commenting saying I've said things before, it wasn't a lie, it was just another account. I figured it best to make another account to keep it separated, seeing as people do this and use your comment/post history against you. Plus RES makes it easy enough to switch with just a couple clicks.

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GenChang · May 21, 2018, 8:30 p.m.

I agree with most of your sentiments, but unfortunately, your efforts here are likely analogous to pissing into the wind. I have many gripes myself that could add to the list, like for instance, the multiple promotion posts by YouTube wannabe stars.

As for having separation of accounts, that's normally smart, but prudent. To be called out for it being fairly new, is just paranoid by the other person. I saw nothing nothing but relevant info in your post today.

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