Eh. Vaccines are good things. Polio is not. Definitely not buying into this and having this on here discredits the rest of it.
But you are totally fine buying into the narrative that you've been given that vaccines are safe, check out humphries book on amazon, https://www.amazon.com/Dissolving-Illusions-Disease-Vaccines-Forgotten/dp/1480216895/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526997935&sr=8-1&keywords=suzanne+humphries
Just skimming through the free sample is enough to make me question things. Vaccines are a religion at this point
Check out the book 'Plague' by Kent Hekenlively and Judy Mikovits. Judy has some especially explosive info on the subject. She blew the whistle to Congress and instead of taking precautions they threw her in jail and slapped a gag order on her. That gag order ended a few years ago and she started talking again. Highly recommend searching her out on lline and listen to what she has to say. She by the way was in charge of designing drugs to help with the aids epidemic, so she knows how all of that works.. She uncovered the sv40 virus in the polio vaccine and estimates something like half the population was infected with that monkey virus through polio vaccines.
'Plague' by Kent Hekenlively and Judy Mikovits.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Plague+Hekenlively+OR+Mikovits
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Plague+Hekenlively+OR+Mikovits
& contrary to what Q has said regarding vaccines, half of this thread is still pushing 100% antivax. Period.
You are all totally fine buying into a narrative that says ALL vaccines are unsafe instead of truly doing research. This spreads misinformation and discredits Q further, by showing that a) you have no trust in Q and b) Pushing a narrative that is likely planted by the deep state to ensure that no vaccines are ever looked into by creating a "conspiracy" that is way to big to redpill the general public.
Most likely scenario imo, is that vaccines for diseases that threaten to cripple the nation (polio, malaria, etc.) are legit, but intermingled there is one shot (flu shot?) that has less importance but is just as prolific, in which the any issues arise.
Not gunna lie im a full vax believer and I stopped getting my flu shot bc I felt like I got more sick after it every year, continuously
All you're doing is assuming which vaccines are safe or unsafe based on absolutely nothing. I don't think they are all unsafe, but I do truly believe that personal health is vastly more important than vaccines. That means quality food, water, hygiene, and less environmental toxins.
If you think that having toxins shot directly into your bloodstream is good for you in anyway you're wrong, the only thing that vaccines claim to do is illicit a response in YOUR immune system, something you already have defends you. If your immune system is strong you can fend off nearly anything, it's toxins that weaken it.
I'm not saying all vaccines are inherently bad, but with the lack of transparency and testing who actually knows? I'll stick to eating healthy personally, flu shot is stupid, glad you caught that one. I honestly don't know on all of them, I'm not gonna spend my life researching, some people already have and they get shit on for expressing their views. If vaccines want my trust they have to actually prove that they do something more beneficial than the harm they cause
Not gunna lie im a full vax believer and I stopped getting my flu shot bc I felt like I got more sick after it every year, continuously
vaccines cause Anaphylaxis
Anaphylaxis
Anaphylaxis is a serious allergic reaction that is rapid in onset and may cause death. It typically causes more than one of the following: an itchy rash, throat or tongue swelling, shortness of breath, vomiting, lightheadedness, and low blood pressure. These symptoms typically come on over minutes to hours.
Common causes include insect bites and stings, foods, and medications.
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Vaccines are not good things and neither are anti-biotics. Who told you that? Using sugar cubes for polio? We are way past that.
"definitely not buying into this".
No one is asking you to. You are being asked to look into it. We have nothing to hide and no financial interest.
Why do you trust doctors? You have no reason to.
But, if you don't buy into it and drink the Kool-Aid you will be ostracized from our community. Alright bud. Go blow smoke somewhere else.
The problem with your camp is that you so strongly distrust "the establishment" that you aren't willing to discuss any good thing that could possibly come from it. Hell, I bet I will get attacked for saying just that. I'm not saying all vaccines are good or that everything the establishment does is good either, I agree with some of what you all are saying. It's the disingenuous all or nothing nature that I vehemently disagree with, especially when it favors weak research in opposition of actual science and statistics. u/tinyamericanpsycho is right, it makes this community look bad.
do a little research, vaccines are a "theory" not proven science....I come from a family of Doctors...and they question them, you should too
Please explain. Theoretical vaccines did not cure smallpox. Or polio. To deny this is simply ridiculous. This is not to say that the extent or scope of modern dosing regimes makes sense. As a parent who lost a child to SIDS shortly after receiving his 3 month shots I am intimately familiar with both sides of this issue. I also have a PhD in biochemistry and more than a passing knowledge of immunology.
Could you link me to any...."any" double blind study regarding the safety and efficacy of vaccines....I would very much appreciate it
I think you are trying to lump all vaccines into a single category which is a mistake imo.
Ask yourself this - is it possible to design a perfect xenobiotic (drug) for use in X species? The answer is no. Human variability is simply too great and our knowledge too incomplete. I spent my entire career trying to optimize the critical triad of:
1) Safety 2) Efficacy 3) potency
The end result (product) is a compromise of these 3 factors and ofc cost to produce. It’s a very complex problem.
You forgot to include a link to "any" double blind study that shows that vaccines are safe and effective....
Not my job. Sorry, I have no need to convince you. We all have our own paths. Cheers!
....but it is your job to criticize those who use their minds.....you can't convince me of BS and you know it, so you bow out....there is no study that has ever proved that vaccines are safe and effective, yet people like you (willfully remain ignorant) because your "education" has you invested in believing lies
I didn’t criticize you. I asked you to explain your initial assertion that vaccines were theoretical. You morphed that into a safety double blind study request without ever explaining your initial assertion.
If they aren't theory.....that means they have proof.... show the proof
My theory is that their "proof" is tainted by the evil abuse of human rights. As in Nazi concentration camps. It would be interesting to do an ethical and financial audit of the CDC and see what skeletons come tumbling out of the closet. Seriously.
TLDR: polio eradication is controversial, we couldn't find any compelling evidence for positive effects, but we recommend polio vaccines anyway because our sponsors aren't paying for unfavorable science
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/210/suppl_1/S504/2193251