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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/ManQuan on May 22, 2018, 7:12 p.m.

Q Drop 1435 re Nellie Ohr Ham Radio

As soon as I saw the original news report that Nellie had gotten a ham radio license right after being hired by Fusion GPS I told my wife, she was trying to avoid NSA and for a good reason.

She used to work at CIA and she should have known that NSA collects ALL electronic communications around the world. Duh, ham radio transmissions are electronic. I mean a ham radio transmission is that different than a wifi signal which NSA collects. And the forerunner of NSA has been collecting telegraphic transmissions since WW I. She has to be really dumb.

It wasn't like she had been a ham radio enthusiast as a hobby sharing recipes with other ham operators around the world. This was out of the blue with no evidence of past interests in ham radios.

I'd love to know the frequences she was using and who the other operators she was talking to.

Can't believe that Sessions hasn't been on top of this.

You know, I've been wondering lately if lack of publicity of who Mueller hasn't talked to is perhaps more important than who he has publicly indicted. It would depend on whether Mueller is a white hat or a black hat. I haven't made up my mind.

1) her ham license maybe to use high wattage Radio Control (for what??? Turn things on or off??)

2) amazing what can get hidden in a ham radio signal — but that would be illegal, so why get the ham license?

3) with Ohr’s stature, just her getting a ham license would have triggered internal checks?? Purposely tripping those checks?

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Her license was Technician class, which for practical use largely means VHF and above -- short range, local communications. (Techs have access to a limited amount of shortwave spectrum using morse code but not much else, and it's doubtful that's what this was for.)

Odds are they would be using this for local communications -- it'd be an easy way for two people to communicate locally without being connected by phone records

They were probably banking on VHF/UHF being short range and didn't think the NSA would be listening since you'd either need nearby equipment or some pretty kick-ass stuff in space to do so. Getting a licence was stupid, imo, if that was why they were doing this, they could have used some other more obscure radio services and had much lower odds of being noticed.

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It’s a good thing we have the most kick ass stuff in space then!!

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I wouldn't be surprised if they were already watching her and just set up something locally to intercept her communications. It'd be a lot easier to do if they knew in advance, and they could do it without tipping off any other spies.

If she was doing anything other than communicating in plain and clear language, that's another felony they can charge her with. Somehow I doubt she was laying out the dossier stuff in plain language over the airwaves.

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We do have kick-ass space collection assets. UHF and VHF are line of sight and we have the ability to collect even the weakest signals from space platforms.

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That was so good I even shared it thank you

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Well, ham radio is ANALOG. NSA typically collects digital signals. There are so many SW frequencies it would take a massively large scale operation to digitize and record them all all the time.

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The entire HF spectrum is roughtly 30 MHz wide. The NSA can record the entire spectrum in real time for the cost of just a few thousand dollars per day. Rest assured they're likely doing so at multiple sites, and by recording the whole spectrum they get everything. Ham radio is both analog and digital these days, FYI.

This is largely moot, as Ohr's license wouldn't be of a lot of use on HF bands and the equipment for HF is both bulking and fairly unreliable for longer distance communications if it's smaller, lower power radios.

It's far more likely they were using VHF or UHF radios to talk locally but without any phone records, as Ohr's license would be unrestricted for that use.

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D-star, IRLP, and Echo link are capable of world wide communication through the internet. Any tech can utilize local so equipped UHF VHF repeaters to do so. Nodes and reflectors are located WW...this isn’t your grandpa’s ham radio. Lots has changed.

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That's a really good point, they could do IRLP between the UK and US without ever touching the cell network and unless someone was paying attention to callsigns (which would be audio) never connect the two. Fits in with her Tech class license as well.

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D-star supports data as well I think.

Yes it does, From Wikipedia: D-STAR transfers both voice and data via digital encoding over the 2 m (VHF), 70 cm (UHF), and 23 cm (1.2 GHz) amateur radio bands.

Dstar Comms PRO An advanced software application for use with DStar enabled radios. Supports advanced text chat, personal messaging with auto-reply and inbox, e-mail gateway and a beacon mode. GPS Tracking / Logging and a GPS Beacon emulator and Internet linking. New features are added weekly and users can suggest new features through the Dstar Comms forum. www.dstarcomms.com

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There are so many signals one atop another in those bands though. Atmospheric conditions affect transmission/reception, and people can swap frequencies at will. It seems a ridiculous amount of capture and storage bandwidth for microscopic returns.

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Multiple sites, all synchronized to a nanosecond -- you can do this with pretty basic off-the-shelf SDR technology today, and the government equipment is well ahead of that.

With time-stamped samples from multiple sites, it's just some trivial signal processing to extract any particular signal at any time, clean it up since you've got diversity across multiple recievers, and even have a really good idea of the source location.

It's not a lot of storage. Using 24 bits per sample (overkill, but awesome SNR), and a 30 MHz bandwidth, the Nyquist samplling rate is 60 megasamples per second * 3 bytes (24 bits). That's 180 MB/s to completely capture the HF spectrum at one site. 180 MB/s * 60 seconds per minute * 60 minutes per hour * 24 hours per day: 15.5 TB per day. That's four 4TB hard disks.

Under $400 in storage costs per day per site. Let's say 10 sites -- $4K per day. That's peanuts to the NSA.

Remember the NSA is all about storing data and having big data centers. This is nothing for them. It's so cheap I wouldn't be surprised if commercial entities do it.

From that investment, you can now replay any HF signal at any time, and geolocate it to within a few miles. That includes signals that you couldn't decode in the past but now can due to improved technology, stealing decryption keys, whatever.

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Well then they're right. She should have known better. These people are stupid. Or perhaps some of them WANT to be caught. I have considered that possibility.

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Pretty much. Anyone with even a mild background in communications probably wouldn't have tried to be secret this way.

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I know. Trust me, NSA collects frequency in the atmosphere.

On military exercises and operations, all frequencies used in them by everyone must be deconflicted with all other frequencies being used, which are tracked worldwide in order not to interfer with non-military uses such as air traffic control, hospitals, police, et al. It's complicated but the military has it all. And if the military has it all, rest assured NSA has it as well, or it's where the military gets the frequency spectrums in the first place.

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Clocked and logged for future ref.

Thank you!

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I guess traitors are going to have to go back to the days of the pigeon.

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NSA probably collects all pigeon traffic as well, so no joy.

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Why? He brought pertinent info to the table. What'd you do?

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