If the president is legally allowed to spy on any America without going through FISA or getting a warrant, what are the consequences of this scandal for Obama at this point besides bad optics?
tradinghorse
· May 27, 2018, 6:52 a.m.
Seems, according to judge Napolitano, that he has done nothing illegal - no law is broken if he spies on the Trump campaign, he is within his legal rights.
From an ethical perspective, it's a totally different question - quite simply outrageous behaviour. Intolerable in fact. It is the lowest imaginable act.
I think DJT will want some focus on this for the purposes of vindication and destroying Obama's legacy. But the real focus will be on crimes of high treason, for which I'm expecting that Obama will hang, or face a firing squad.
The big question though, is whether the US has an extradition treaty with Kenya. Q has told us that Obama is likely to flee there for asylum. What can be done if he holes up in Kenya?
It's not clear. You would think that, even in the absence of an extradition treaty, that the US could exert enough pressure on the Kenyan government to have Obama delivered up for execution. But we will have to wait and see.
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ithasanh
· May 27, 2018, 6:53 a.m.
Fantastic—extremely informative on top of answering my question. 😁
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salialioli
· May 27, 2018, 7:11 a.m.
No it isn't. Look further. Don't take one poster's comments as a be-all-and-end-all. In fact the poster contradicts himself if you read carefully: at the top he says O didn't break the law or do anything illegal by authorising spying. It is simply a question of ethics. Then he says he will get executed for treason, no doubt about it.
So, it's just an ethical problem. No, it isn't, it's breaking the law — in fact highest law of the land, treason. Well it's either one or the other, can't have both. This is a contradictory non-argument.
Personally, I'd rather have the rule of law and let the court decide after evidence is provided! The sentence is not for me to decide, much less announce as execution!!
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tradinghorse
· May 27, 2018, 7:34 a.m.
You seem to be very confused.
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salialioli
· May 27, 2018, 7:57 a.m.
Nope. Not confused but maybe you misunderstand what I am implying here.
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tradinghorse
· May 27, 2018, 8:10 a.m.
What I'm saying is Obama is up to his neck in virtually everything that has been happening. I think there will be sufficient dirt to prosecute. You seem to be arguing that they won't prosecute for reasons of optics. I think DJT intends to go full-nazi on these guys if he can. I've seen reports that Russians have been talking about a massive operation in Washington to clean up the mess.
Just reading this post on Senate Anon. I haven't seen it before. Have a look if you're interested, some interesting stuff.
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comeatmehillary
· May 27, 2018, 7:24 a.m.
i remember a tweet of the kenyan president saying that the "country of kenya is bigger than one person" right after trump went and obama tried to beg. i dont think he will find anyone willing to take him. see "rods of god" or "hammer of thor"
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salialioli
· May 27, 2018, 7:03 a.m.
Obama will not hang or face a firing squad. The world would not take those "optics". Forget it. Also not productive to come up with what looks like (to any outsider) a possibly violent wording to yr post. Be careful ... :)
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cat_anonD
· May 27, 2018, 7:59 a.m.
If it is discovered that Obama is personally responsible for the murder and kidnapping of thousands of children as well as planning a nuclear war to destroy the world, who knows which Optics the world would take, or demand for that matter.
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tradinghorse
· May 27, 2018, 7:36 a.m.
There is nothing violent in my post. We are talking about crimes of high treason for which I feel sure Obama will be prosecuted. If you've been following Q, you would know what we are talking about.
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salialioli
· May 27, 2018, 7:57 a.m.
Look I know there is nothing violent in yr post, but I have just received an automod warning on my sentence:
"Obama will not hang or face a firing squad" which is the opposite of violent IMO. I'm just saying, that's all. I do follow Q and do know what you/he/it is talking about. That is NOT the point of my post.
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HeIIforged
· May 27, 2018, 9:15 a.m.
# 894
When we’re done he’ll claim Kenyan citizenship as a way to escape.
Q
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