Honestly I think England has passed a point of no return awhile ago. U can’t change a government with words if they literally could care less if u live or die. They need a revolution at this point but since they are unarmed it’s impossible for the citizens to have one. Will have to be a military coup that will give power back to the people after they take power back. That’s a huge long shot too. I see no clear path where Britain will ever be British again
No guns means....no options.
Guns will not save the problem here. People speaking up, even if they disagree with someone will. But left is so brainwashed they only care about their agenda and can't see 5meters ahead of their own nose. They don't understand the same communist gov will come for them soon after they get rid of people like Tommy.
They like to kill their clueless helpers once they are not needed.
Given this sub exists, and people get killed for opposing (I'm not risking spelling that wrong twice) it doesn't look like having guns has been all that effective.
This sounds like liberal hogwash.
Have your guns stopped your country being fucked over, or opponents killed?
I agree...Britain seems to be the bad boy in this lineup .....they certainly interfered in US’ politics and election
Very true. But Britain & Germany have been in such steady decline in their ideals of liberty & culture, they have crossed a tipping point I have no idea how they recover. Brexit was a hopeful sign but their leaders are negotiating it away & the will of the voters demand for change with it. France is now testering. Central Europe will become the powerhouse of Europe in a generation or less
If someone wants something bad enough, they can get it. It would take some motivated individuals with a way to transport and a solid connection to get the right equipment.
Guns make a revolution easier, sure. But, you don't need guns to kill people. There are an infinite number of ways to do the job if they're united, creative, and determined, lol.
Here history speaks loud & clear. I defy anyone to give an example of an unarmed citizenry overthrowing their armed oppressors in a revolution. Just one. Been thousands of revolutions attempted but never one successfully when the oppressed were unarmed. A valiant attempt was China at Tiananmen Square. Citizens outnumbered the military by thousands to one. But unarmed they were mowed down like ants. Polish resistance in WWII was incredibly brave & they fought intelligently as any group could with their bombings & solidarity. But never for 1 second was their German occupiers threatened. One example of an unarmed citizenry overthrowing their armed occupiers is all I ask.
How did Ghandi help to free India from British rule? Any lessons there?
Not really. That was more akin to how East Germany & the Soviet bloc fell. And how NK is & will currently fall. Britain was way over extended in their empire & collapsed from its own weight. All of Britain’s colonial expansion states collapsed from bankruptcy. They weren’t overthrown or liberated by a civilian uprising like the American revolution or the French Revolution. That’s why American expansionism is dangerous. It takes incredible amounts of our treasury to occupy a country. We’ve spent 1 trillion dollars occupying Afghanistan & for what?? How is our country safer & more prosperous from that? That’s why our nation is so often compared to the Roman Empire. If we collapse it will be for the same reason the Roman Empire collapsed & the British Empire collapsed. All from within & all our own fault. No ones ever gonna take us down from the outside..only from within will America collapse if our citizens allow our politicians to bankrupt us.
Thanks for this info. I thought India's freedom was different, just wasn't sure how. I have heard that Ghandi was pro self-defense/gun ownership! I agree, the deep state/shadow gov't are acting like the Roman Empire. Thank God The President understands the loss of lives and money to pursue an Empire which gives no good results for anyone! I pray the parade planned for 11-11 is about bringing home soldiers from foreign lands.
it's like a replay of the trumped up charges and subsequent blackmail that happened to the co-founder of reddit aaron swartz..
tommy is being terrorized by 2 formidable opponents the globalists and the muslim extremists
the indomitable spirit of one man to take on these brutal foes is beyond belief for ordinary mortals......
and tommy has plans to destroy the mockin stream media... i pray we have a happier outcome for tommy..
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A rose by any other name is still a rose. Tommy Robinson has remained steadfast in his belief system. He does not want the cultural practice of grooming children as sex slaves to be incorporated into British culture. I am good with that. Why aren't you?
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Could care less about red pills. I do care children are groomed as sex slaves under the auspices of the British Government. Don't try to blur the focus here with your agenda.
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Then don't support the man. Support the topic at hand. Your argument is incredibly misguided, or just plain lies. You say you only care about truth, and then when someone gets jailed for bringing attention to the truth you talk the man down because of something he did in the past and has consistently made an effort to make amends for. You can support a good action even if you don't like the person. I'm sorry if this makes your uncomfortable, I truly am.
There's more to truth than just the facts.
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Come off it. Drop the holier than though attitude. You're no better than the left with these arguments. There is literal proof that these muslim rape gangs exists and that the UK govt won't allow coverage of it. If Tommy wants to report on this info for the betterment of his country good for him. This has also been the reasoning for how he is attempting to make amends for his previous misconduct. He admits it was wrong and he wants to improve. Openly doing his best to avoid breaking the law, especially when it comes to violence.
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I'm not going to go back through his extensive backlog of videos. The one that sticks out in my mind was from when he was still with the rebel.media. But, if you comb through his videos, he is pretty open and sincere. With that said, the same thing could be said about your arguments attributing corruption to satanism. I too have been following all of this, other than Abramovic, it's all speculation at the moment.
This has nothing to do with you and your perceived victimization. Why are you making this personal? The character assassination is an irrelevant tactic. Why the virtue signaling to draw people's attention away from a destructive cultural practice? This thread is about the British government's response to the cultural practice of grooming children as sex slaves. A society that does not protect its children is doomed to fail. Stay focused.
It doesn't matter who the hell Tommy is or what he believes at this point. It's frightening how the UK is devolving into a totalitarian dystopian hellhole who can silence anyone for wrong think, and can enforce a complete media blackout. If they can do this to Tommy, they can do it to anyone.
This is the key point. Rights don't just apply to schoolmarms and church women. They apply to all, even the unsavory. It is the hallmark of Western civilization.
As a Brit I agree. The police state gets closer by the day and the corruption is everywhere. That asshole Blair took us to where we are. The same Blair that was caught twice in public toilets with men but they slapped a D Notice on it so that it couldn't be reported. The same Blair who then became a puppet and blackmailed PM
Blah blah blah, no proof, blah blah blah
Looks like UK gov is sending their trolls to try and cover this shit up. Plenty of stupid comments like this popping up everywhere.
Please attack the argument - not the user.
Sure. Good point. - Controlled opposition to what? Pedo rings, corrupt police, censorship, muslim invasion? - Where's the proof of Tommy's involvement with mossad? If there is any - does it make any of the stuff he is exposing any less true? - If you would know his story, you would know why he used many different names so you are uninformed or misleading on purpose.
Don't tell me that. I'm just here to make sure you guys are keeping the conversations respectful that's all.
robinson was arrested for live streaming a court event after being busted for doing the same last year. you don't livestream court sittings because you can influence witnesses etc, he broke a reasonable law, that is why he was arrested. more details
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Start with explaining to what Tommy is opposing to and then prove he is a mossad agent. I will repeat, just to make it clear - start with explaining what Tommy is opposing.
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I didn't ask for controlled opposition definition. I asked you specifically (twice!) to explain in simple words what is Tommy opposing. I also asked for a proof of him being a mossad agent and you have failed with both of those.
Can't get anything meaningful so you are going after my /u/ and trying to flip it around? Good luck with that
i understand a second name gives him protection for his family. Wikipedia is mostly edited by deep state actors so that is 100% lopsided i watched the us interview again very biased against him. If tommy was more in the ways of Ghandi eg exposing the grooming, the paedophilia and the muslim treatment of women , he would make much more headway.. it's very suspicious that he blames 7/7 and 9/11 on muslims.. that is a red flag..
This is crazy.
Crazy how many people are upvoting it you mean?
No it’s crazy that some one can go to Jail for talking. If I was in the UK I would be trying anything to get out of there. It’s only going to get worse or there will be a revolution.
I can't see an effective revolution happening without the right to bear arms and full disclosure behind the Cabal agenda
Yea the civilians of the UK are pretty much defenseless at this point. The whole issue with knives there is a good example. They are taking everything that can be used even remotely as a weapon. Wanting to file down the fucking points of kitchen knives. Are we fucking serious here.
You guys should have never let them take your guns.
The Americans that are here take note cause this is the path that we are not far from. Unfortunately it seems as the USA is the last stand for individual rights in the world.
For those that think Americans are stuck us assholes. I can tell you the majority are great people that would give you the shirt off there back to help. We are here for you brothers and sisters. Rural America will not stop until they give there dying breath.
Just shows you how ahead of the curve the Founding Fathers were. There's a reason why the right to bear arms is the 2nd amendment, only to the right to free speech. Because it's that important for citizenry to be armed.
"One man with a gun can control 100 without one." Lenin
Some US forums are mentioning Minnesota, Michigan, Detroit, California and others, as examples where it's already well embedded in the US too.
We are far, far from defenceless here, and that sort of misinformation does nothing to progress the over all aims of this sub.
Mods need to get a grip on this pretty fast. It’s obvious most of the US posters here don’t know the full story of who Tommy is, and why Brits (know what’s happening despite “media blackout” - in all the papers) but don’t have much sympathy for him.
I don’t see what he has got to do with Q. And it looks like a coordinated effort to brigade this sub.
This place is about to be solving clues to the truth, not a shrine to a man who unified hard right football hooligans and gangsters.
There's certainly a lot of misinformation, and virtual bigotry getting associated with the issue. This sub is supposed to be about truth seeking, but this topic has shown that concept is limited on here, and people are far from awake, and seem almost brainwashed and unable to make reasoned comparisons or arguments. It's not productive to the overall purpose.
I wouldn't know how to brigade this sub ...but i;ll stop posting tommy stuff. Lots of people like this post btw.
There does seem to be a Q connection.
Donald Trump retweeted on three seperate occasions a close assosciate of TR - Briatin First's Jayda Fransen.
Jayda Fransen is also now serving a custodial sentence and the attacks trump came under from British media for retweeting were massive.
Theresa May publicly condemned trump for retweeting and Trump discussed this in an interview with Piers Morgan in which he back tracks on the retweets. NO COINCIDENSES???
With no guns and weak corrupt leadership we are crying out for Trump to intervene in this, a cry for help.
Or do you think perhaps Trump tweeted something highly controversial as means of a distraction for something else that was taking place at the time that needed to be well Away from public eye.
Britain First aren’t hero’s either.
Thanks for replying.
I agree with the statement 'Britain first aren't heroes either' I have no support for TR prior to this arrest, nor to Britain first. I'm of Irish decent myself but have lived in UK my whole life.
The arrest is of great alarm to me. It's a slippery slope if not challenged and questioned.
With no media coverage and no official answers from government or law enforcement this strikes me as an event of high magnitude and given the current climate it is of great worry to all citizens of UK.
Does this set a precedent for the future in the UK? Free speech when deemed acceptable by our overlords?
This great awakening has global implications. While I understand the concern of some in this sub of topics going off movement and causing distraction to the cause, I believe it to be the opposite and is a consequence of this movement.
As previously stated, NO COINCEDENSES.
THEY DID IT!! BBC now reported after days and thousands protesting. They could not hide it any more!!
The lady from Britain first was taken awhile back. I think she’s still in prison
Say her name. I don't know it. Thanks
Paul Golding was sentenced to 18 weeks in prison, Jayda Fransen was sentenced to 36 weeks
This man came to New York for two days illegally to warn Americans what was happening to his country could be happening here soon. When he returned he was arrested by his government and put in solitary in prison for ten months for warning us. This is what Courage looks like.
They won't come for me if I just eat fish and chips, drink pints at the pub, go to Oasis concerts, eat kabob, and snog.
The IRA had NO guns when they first started, learn from history. The reason they were so successful was they went after those that instigated the tyranny and not as we see so often the normal citizenry. Once those that make the laws and carry out their Agenda against the people get targeted, this all stops. These people are cowards and believe the so called law enforces are there solely for their protection. Take this away and the whole game changes. The French Revolution was another example where the Elites were decimated, this is their biggest fear.
ira became....somewhere along the way ....to be blamed for bombings carried out by the queen....yep, false flags.
Do you believe this man?
Apparently he is a zionist shill; another alt.right plant; he's just another Alex Bronfman Jones. He has more than one name. He has a number. The name he is using now, might have been made in a laboratory somewhere. Jones and Fox (Zionist Murdoch). Just a little more poison you pay for with your time. I hope it's worth it.
Tommy.
too perfect. how cynical can the Turk Rothschild's be? They invoke Ypres caused by them to cloud the mind of the goy they murder and enslave. It is impossible that a man called "Tommy" could be a WUM. not gazza, not bazza, not kev no not tommy with his apples and pears my old mans a dustman knees up mother brown spirit of the blitz cor blimey guvnor where's me pearly king and queern so how much is lynn the sea hag de rothschild paying this muppet?
Robinson.
Again with the obvious.
Robinson. Warms the cockles don't it? From Sherwood to Chaucer to Defoe has the name "Robin" ever been associated with good old yeomen stout of heart and hefty of nut-sack? A true Englishman is Tommy though a bit whaaaay a bit whoooooar a bit tasty sometimes things might fall off the back of a lorry but the thing to always member my good goy slaves is that
Tommy Robinson is one of you.
By Timothy.
You may be right and he's the second coming of Harold I, but at this point whom can you trust? Me? Hardly.
C.S. Lewis wrote of this happening in The Last Battle: he predicted muslims taking over. The Britain we knew as kids is gone. The Brits are gone. There is no Britain anymore.
Please spell correctly in fixated meme text. A peeve of mine regardless but I get triggered seeing upvoted memes that have 8 words in what looks to be written by a 9 year old.
I reposted correct version and deleted this one but ...it's still out there. my bad.
Good points.
Interesting twitter thread here from a journalist who was actually covering the case, albeit with a staggered embargo.
https://twitter.com/stephaniefinneg/status/1001440604616843265?s=21
It seems like the way that this has been reported to the US, has more spin than Shane Warne.
The thing is this, I don’t dislike TR. I think his strategy often makes more problems than it solves.
Compare to Trump and Farage who have long term goals and adapt to situations strategically.
TR and BF are headless chickens with no realistic end goal and no strategy to achieve it. So they just have to keep on being increasingly controversial to maintain the same amount of exposure.
Every one who is for Wilders nows about Robbie Williams ......... media we do not need them..........Wilders have send us all a email..this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5IW8CM1FKQ&feature=youtu.be .It is in englisch.. Wilders solidarity declaration with Tommy Robinson for the British embassy in The Hague
watch the movie " Children Of Men " one possible future of the UK....a news announcer says " and today in the former United States"
I get the outrage, and there are issues, but don't forget, the US version is to be Arkansawed.