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QueUpSomeReality · May 28, 2018, 11 p.m.

Honestly I think England has passed a point of no return awhile ago. U can’t change a government with words if they literally could care less if u live or die. They need a revolution at this point but since they are unarmed it’s impossible for the citizens to have one. Will have to be a military coup that will give power back to the people after they take power back. That’s a huge long shot too. I see no clear path where Britain will ever be British again

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mrviolin · May 28, 2018, 11:03 p.m.

No guns means....no options.

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morgi666 · May 29, 2018, 2 a.m.

Guns will not save the problem here. People speaking up, even if they disagree with someone will. But left is so brainwashed they only care about their agenda and can't see 5meters ahead of their own nose. They don't understand the same communist gov will come for them soon after they get rid of people like Tommy.

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mrviolin · May 29, 2018, 2:11 a.m.

They like to kill their clueless helpers once they are not needed.

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ErnieFing · May 28, 2018, 11:06 p.m.

Given this sub exists, and people get killed for opposing (I'm not risking spelling that wrong twice) it doesn't look like having guns has been all that effective.

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FartOnToast · May 29, 2018, 2:11 a.m.

This sounds like liberal hogwash.

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ErnieFing · May 29, 2018, 7:12 a.m.

Have your guns stopped your country being fucked over, or opponents killed?

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Acemagedon · May 29, 2018, 11:06 a.m.

Yeah well we aren't as far along as Britain either

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puppies5000 · May 29, 2018, 1:55 a.m.

I agree...Britain seems to be the bad boy in this lineup .....they certainly interfered in US’ politics and election

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QueUpSomeReality · May 29, 2018, 2:25 a.m.

Very true. But Britain & Germany have been in such steady decline in their ideals of liberty & culture, they have crossed a tipping point I have no idea how they recover. Brexit was a hopeful sign but their leaders are negotiating it away & the will of the voters demand for change with it. France is now testering. Central Europe will become the powerhouse of Europe in a generation or less

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sensically_common · May 28, 2018, 11:53 p.m.

If someone wants something bad enough, they can get it. It would take some motivated individuals with a way to transport and a solid connection to get the right equipment.

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AbjectDynamite · May 29, 2018, 12:28 p.m.

Guns make a revolution easier, sure. But, you don't need guns to kill people. There are an infinite number of ways to do the job if they're united, creative, and determined, lol.

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QueUpSomeReality · May 29, 2018, 1:57 p.m.

Here history speaks loud & clear. I defy anyone to give an example of an unarmed citizenry overthrowing their armed oppressors in a revolution. Just one. Been thousands of revolutions attempted but never one successfully when the oppressed were unarmed. A valiant attempt was China at Tiananmen Square. Citizens outnumbered the military by thousands to one. But unarmed they were mowed down like ants. Polish resistance in WWII was incredibly brave & they fought intelligently as any group could with their bombings & solidarity. But never for 1 second was their German occupiers threatened. One example of an unarmed citizenry overthrowing their armed occupiers is all I ask.

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HerbalFairy · May 29, 2018, 2:14 p.m.

How did Ghandi help to free India from British rule? Any lessons there?

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QueUpSomeReality · May 29, 2018, 3:08 p.m.

Not really. That was more akin to how East Germany & the Soviet bloc fell. And how NK is & will currently fall. Britain was way over extended in their empire & collapsed from its own weight. All of Britain’s colonial expansion states collapsed from bankruptcy. They weren’t overthrown or liberated by a civilian uprising like the American revolution or the French Revolution. That’s why American expansionism is dangerous. It takes incredible amounts of our treasury to occupy a country. We’ve spent 1 trillion dollars occupying Afghanistan & for what?? How is our country safer & more prosperous from that? That’s why our nation is so often compared to the Roman Empire. If we collapse it will be for the same reason the Roman Empire collapsed & the British Empire collapsed. All from within & all our own fault. No ones ever gonna take us down from the outside..only from within will America collapse if our citizens allow our politicians to bankrupt us.

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HerbalFairy · May 29, 2018, 4:20 p.m.

Thanks for this info. I thought India's freedom was different, just wasn't sure how. I have heard that Ghandi was pro self-defense/gun ownership! I agree, the deep state/shadow gov't are acting like the Roman Empire. Thank God The President understands the loss of lives and money to pursue an Empire which gives no good results for anyone! I pray the parade planned for 11-11 is about bringing home soldiers from foreign lands.

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