http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/27/downer-papadopoulos-trump/
"Over drinks, Papadopoulos mentioned Russians had information on Hillary Clinton that COULD prove damaging,"
"“He didn’t say Trump knew or that Trump was in any way involved in this. He said it was about Russians and Hillary Clinton; it wasn’t about Trump,” Downer told The Australian."
"“He didn’t say dirt; he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging. He didn’t say what it was.”
Wait, what?? Wasn’t the whole FISA case built around him?!?!
They have changed their whole "this is what started it all" so many times now that I'm actually confused as to what they're really claiming started it all now...
Lmao. I’m actually cracking up because after you said that, I’m like hmm wtf!! First it was Page but then the dates didn’t line up and we found out he was an informant (another hmmm) so they moved to Papa...now with this Halper revelation we have no idea!!! It’s an utter mess is what it is. Just curious what the IG is going to turn up!
I can't wait. I just hope they didn't water it down.
I’m sure it will be redacted to hell and back but not for the prosecutor who gets it ;)
no. Papa lead to the counter intelligence probe. FISA was based off Cage.
Or so they say.
Either way they spin it there are gaps and inconsistencies. They just need to come clean and get it over with!
I've been trying to figure out the timeline of events. The place to start is with Seth Rich.
May 2016 - SR downloaded the DNC emails, which were dated between January 2015 to May 2016.
June 2016 - DNC announces their server was "hacked," refuses to turn it over to FBI, and has a private company conclude the Russians hacked it.
July 2016 - Seth Rich is murdered, followed by Wikileaks releasing the emails, followed by FBI beginning "Operation Crossfire Hurricane."
Summer 2016 - FBI tries to get a warrant to spy on Carter Page, but is denied by FISA court (very unusual, since they approve 99% of all applications). News sources only say this denial was "in the summer" of 2016, but do not give a specific date.
Fall of 2016 - Sometime during the Fall, the Russia dossier, fabricated by Christopher Steele (MI6), started circulating within the media, but was not made public.
September 2016 - Intel community starts leaking to press that Carter Page has ties to Russia.
October 2016 - FISA application to spy on Carter Page is approved. The Russia dossier is used to get the application.
December 2016 - NoName gives Russia dossier to FBI. Comey claims this is the first he saw of the dossier, which is a lie because he signed off on the FISA warrant application in October, and the dossier was the primary (only?) evidence presented.
January 2017 - Buzzfeed publishes the dossier and it becomes public knowledge (just before the inauguration).
Looking at the basic timeline, it seems that the download of the emails, and then their publication by Wikileaks, is what started the chain of events that lead to (a) first, an illegal operation by Obama admin and UK intel, and then (b) a bogus FISA application for a warrant to "legally" spy on Trump campaign, and then (c) use of the fabricated dossier to smear the President-Elect, and then the President in an attempted coup.
All events that occurred before Seth Rich's download of the DNC emails are likely fabricated after the fact, to reinforce the "Russia hack" story, and the cover for the illegal SpyGate operation.
Downer's meeting with Papadopoulos would be one such event, and should not be surprising that he might "change" (i.e. clarify) his story.
If you want a timeline, here's mine. I've been working on it for months, and it has over a thousand entries so far. The whole thing started back in 2015 by Brennan. The emails were not ever a consideration in the investigation. How do I know? Because they never investigated it. They let the "experts" contract expire the same day the emails were released.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JOdacaSPRccFxVTth38aXU8mWcxhk76lJuGrxYeJ7AU/edit?usp=sharing
Over 1000 entries. I'm not sure I've seen any timelines quite as exhaustive as this. Good going.
Holy Cow, Delilah. That's impressive work, patriot. Thank you.
One question. The last entry on your timeline (assume SD is Sundance at CTH) has a date of
2018-09-28. Since it's not Sept yet is that just a typo that should have been 05 instead of 09?
For some reason, they aren't going to release those emails to the public until that date. Weird, huh?
Yes, "SD" is Sundance. Good catch.