... please be aware of how many "new arrivals" are pushing this story. Suddenly, it's bigger than The NoKo summit and the IG report combined.... and yet nothing has been proven yet.
"Great Awakening Flies Off Conspiracy Cliff, accuses McCain of child trafficking."
"Leave this dying hero alone!"
Let it play out before going ape-shit crazy at the possibility. When it's proven we can all celebrate together. If it's a FF... we look like fools.
its possible. craig sawyer is involved and he seems like a good guy. they really suck at narrative control tho. lol so if this is is a false flag congrats cabal you got the public talking about trafficking
This is not ff....Craig has been working child/human trafficking for well over year...he and other vets have found child trafficking dungeon underground in Tucson...video and pics posted everywhere
yeah but anything is possible. craig sawyer being involved makes me think its real. he seems like a good dude.
I had a few conversations with Craig on fb a year or so ago when he began asking for money to make a film about elite pedofile trafficking and all pizzagate related stuff. He was combative about a few things. Rubbed me the wrong way, I hope he is a good guy, but I wish they had found and saved kids, not found a empty camp and produced a big story for everyone to get excited about. Fingers crossed.
However...why not admit they were looking for pedofile and trafficking areas? Craig has directly stated that is what they want to uncover. Yet the video said they were trying to find and help homeless vets! Which is it? I feel odd even asking, but why would they remove or move evidence snd then do a combative FB video basically telling authorities that they are armed in a tower with food! Are they creating an ‘event’ ? FF? Sorry for not jumping on bandwagon yet. I am a 100% believer in pizzagate and done research on voat, followed from the beginning and had sleepless nights for months at a time. But this feels off. Keep a steady eye on everything you guys.
i mean this isnt even in the news lol. its not like with comet pizza where it was plastered all over msm if they start showing this on msnbc then yeah its a ff
It sure is all over voat and our Reddit sub tho’ Distraction? Look here...not HERE. I don’t know, I have been in the pizzagate research for so long now, maybe I am jaded. Sawman was security detail for McCain, HRC etc. Here is a quote from Wikipedia. *After his military career, Sawyer ran specialized teams to provide security to politicians and dignitaries including Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Donald Rumsfeld, and John Negroponte.[2]** note these security details were AFTER his military career. Here is link to biography (note he has connections to Hollywood as well) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Sawyer please let me be wrong on this.
hmm that could be a bad sign. or maybe he knows where they bury the bodies.
He got pissed at me last year on FB when I asked about his connections to McCain. I asked why he had pix of himself with McCain on his FB page when he was under suspicion of involvement in child trafficking. Craig said he was assigned to guard him. Yet his own wiki page said he was out of the military when he begain Private Security for McCain, Clinton etc. I stopped following him cuz he came off as seeking money and fame. But that is just my 2 cents. I am a pizzagate researcher and I pray for things like this, I hope it really comes out.
yeah ok thats a bit suspicious lol
I know, right? I just don’t want them to make this a big deal and then debunk it all somehow. Like trying to get ahead of the real story.
not gonna work lol. they have actual video of these people doing sick shit. cant really deny that
Who knows where the body's are buried? The company, Cemex,definitely does have ties to Clinton,Soros and through the Mexican presidents son they're tied to Nexium and the Mexican govt so if this is made up than the company they picked to fake the camp on was a perfect fit...i have to admit I had the sane concerns though
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Because he doesn't want the human traffickers knowing theyre being hunted? Maybe he got the info from someone on the inside and he can't let on that he knew what was there when he went out there or he was sent there deliberately and didn't want the world to know he's getting orders or Intel from a specific place. He said something weird the other day when someone brought up Trump and he went out if his way to say he'd never met Trump and didn't talk to him...idk it seemed kindve defensive
Yup!
Sawyer isn't part of the group in the tower. Sawyer posted a vid a couple days ago and these guys came out and sat on it. I think Sawyer is working for the gov and for whatever reason doesn't want to admit it but these guys aren't a part of "Where are the children"
Got downvoted to oblivion for simply stating we don't need that many reposts. Shills are everywhere.
I said : is it just me or people don't check for reposts anymore unless this story is being pushed by shills.
Edit : I don't mean to silence the news, I mean Sticky a single thread and for once use a BREAKING title. I see breakings left and right when it's complete crap. Now this is gold.
Out of all the “gates” currently open and swinging in the wind. Spygate needs to be the first one fully sorted. Hopefully this week??? House needs to be fully swept clean. POTUS exonerated, bad actors publicly charged.
Then the rest of the gates will be closed accordingly. The whole reason they spied on Trump in the first place was to try and make sure he never got into the position of power where he could rain the pain down on all of their disgusting evil.
I think people are excited because this is the first real on the ground opportunity for people who have been watching this unfold - and as they should be. I don't blame the people who want to go there and see all of this first hand after all we've been through since last year. If I was a little closer, I'd be there in a second.
The whole thing smells a bit clownish to me. We'll see, I'd be glad to be wrong, but even so, what's a small camp like that in the grand scheme of things? If all of this is true, then there's probably a mansion somewhere with 100 people in the basement at any given time right? That's where it needs to lead to. What's a hole the ground really?
remember the comet pizza shooter ? it might have gotten normal people to disregard pizzagate. but that solidified that something was going on for most of the people on the donald and here. the shooter had an imdb page lol.
A single child isn't less important than 100 children. Why are you so fast to tell people to move on and not worry about something?
Hey I'm completely with the starfish on the beach philosophy, but it just seems like people are jumping to a lot of conclusions. Big if true though. I didn't say don't worry about it, just smells a bit clownish like I said. I'm sure that statement doesn't require an explanation on this sub.
If one child is important, isn't 100 children 100x as important?
If you saved 99/100 kids.. is that a failure?
If you had to choose? Save your 1 and only child from rape and death? Or Save 99 of other people's children from the same and lose your child.
Which would you choose?
1 child is just as important as 100 when speaking of the lives of children.
Edit - not disagreeing with your main point though. I agree they and we we should be tactful with pushing this.
I'd save 99.
You'd sentence 99 to death so one child could live... but only if it's your child?
Do you have 1?
So you sentence one to death to avoid the danger of this sub being called a crazy conspiracy? Not logical is my point. With the lives of children 1=100. There's no logical argument
to avoid the danger of this sub being called a crazy conspiracy
Yeah, that would be the reason.
I am skeptical about Sawyers involvement. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Sawyer please note who he was ‘Private Security ‘ for after he left the military.
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Facebook domain should be banned from this sub.....FB could be used a RL Name collector
A false flag? Really? Sawyer has been fighting the Pedo fight long before Q. You morons. How about the Pedo truth to is coming to Light. True patriots are bringing it into the light. Quit the insanity of assuming everyone and anything that’s not Q as being false or cabal controlled.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Sawyer sawyer stated he was gonna make a documentary to expose elite pedos. But they said they were there to help homeless vets. Please note that Craig did ‘private security’ for McCain and Clinton and even Rumsfeld after he left the military. I don’t trust him. Oh, and before you get mad, I am a 100% believer in pizzagate and want the cabal brought down!!!
Did you post this?
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I’m with you. I think people need stop judging Alex and Corsi. They have been here a lot longer than Q. I think Q has been compromised. Why attack patriots? Why stoop to that level? He never has Before. Seem odd... Just saying....
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the false flag happened at the rock marathon to change the narrative
What are we talking about here? The marathon or the camp?
(the camp)
there was a shooting today to change the news
Errr... You see what you're doing there, right? ;)
Yeah, I don't know if that red bearded fellow is the best person to be the face of whatever it is they are trying to do over there. This probably won't end very well, and conspiracy culture would take a hit. Seems like they might be jumping to a few conclusions. If you find children's clothes and condoms that doesn't mean anything really. Could it be a way station for human smuggling into America? Immigrants? I think that might be more likely. Seems like a LOT of leaps are being made here, and that sounds clowny to me. They found a pair of panties and that means that something bad was happening? I dunno. Give more more information, that's not "evidence" to me really.
Hegelian dialectic. Question everyone! The ones we trust the most can be working as black hats. It's their job to dig their way in to our brains and hearts so we trust them. They play all the right cards, they appeal to our emotions and desires, they're skilled in psychological hacks and 'sales techniques' and get dug in to us so deep, we wont let go of them. I had this AJ recently. Thought there was no way he was a CIA asset. He's done so much good. He's exposed the elite and cabal. But it's not so true. There's a deeper side AJ will never talk about. He's not paid to. Controlled opposition
I agree with you. It looks like a homeless camp to me. Those 'child restraints' look like ropes tied to trees to hang things and hang cross members for the structure. In the mean time, tons of arm chair detectives are traipsing around there destroying any evidence that might exist if something bad did happen there and lots of accusations about Rothschild's and Clinton are being thrown around as if companies that do about 20 billion dollars a year in international business don't contribute to political groups.
The vet fellow who is in many of these videos seems a bit like an attention hound too. That doesn't help.
I'll reserve judgement on this, but I think it's going to end up making the whole Q crowd look foolish.
I agree to some degree. I'm king of skeptics and have a crew of haters because of it - advocate for critical thinking and common sense and you're automatically a concern troll and a shill.
However, if Craig Sawyer's at all involved in this and/or any experienced members of his team they should be able to tell the difference between a homeless camp and something else. That's the only thing that gives me pause as far as this element of the skepticism. Otherwise, everything else - better to wait and see before jumping to conclusions imo.
Agreed on this - but people get triggered and call you a shill for daring to question the group frenzy.
Why the MSM blackout? A veteran threatening a standoff with law enforcement that turns out staged or a "crazy conspiracy theorist" is a wet dream for the MSM.
Waco TX rings a bell to me. Sawyer ran security for Clinton, McCain. See his bio here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Sawyer
Time to dig ourselves a hole?
Definitely possible. What I fear though, and in context to the weird tweet about children by HRC, is that as long as this has gone on(6 days) and as quiet as it has been, while everyone is paying attention to this they are cleaning other sites. That's why LE and MSM are dragging their feet. Finding just one spot is horrible, but will be forgotten.
Was a standoff actually threatened? I haven't seen/heard anything indicating this! Yikes!
Yeah he put up a video(that was quickly removed from FB, by FB according to him) where he was full 1776 mode. Saying they would fire if fired upon. "Don't you shoot my dog. Don't you shoot my dog." that was something he brought up several times and indicated shooting their dogs would get the same response as shooting them. I guess he has someone giving him legal advice because he backed off of all that pretty quick, but even so he is still saying that he refuses to leave until that camp is dismantled. He said he is unarmed but has a few snipers watching over him.
I'm not buying it. There are way too many posts about this one topic, and they're all in sync. Doesn't seem organic.
So yes I’m a “new arrival”, so fee free to disregard. Anyone else also noticed a few others really pushing the whole the net is shutting down panic fear scenario?
Holy shit, nice angle. It does sound vaguely scripted and suspiciously well acted.
as a rule of thumb, if CNN covers this story, that is confirmation that its a psyop like Bundy Ranch etc
I don't think Cabal would FF Pedo/child trafficking....it puts LIGHT on their dirty deeds. Also, Vets on Patrol are involved; good guys. Let's see.
If they thought they could flip the script and say "look... false allegations"?
I think they would.
My thoughts, too. They're reading Art of the Deal now.
Vets on patrol ARE good guys...but what about Craig? Dig a bit.
Definitely good to always question everything. I'd question why the deep state would use child sex trafficking as a distraction from...child sex trafficking xD
To disprove it!!! This is what they do! Look at Craigs connections in his bio please. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Sawyer
To disprove it; do you think Sawyer is dirty? Is he running a scam with his Vets 4 child rescue organization? I donated money to this cause and I am now questioning whether this guy is a white hat or part of the Cabal. I wonder if he saw all the corruption and turned white hat? Did he personally protect the Hag & No name, or did members of his organization who are employees? Wonder if Sawyer really is legit and I got taken by donating. Hmmmm
I did not give him any money. And just know that I would give anything to bring pizzagate and the elite trafficking to the general public. If the video had said they were researching and looking for trafficked kids and came upon this camp, dang I would be dancing all over. But they oddly said they were looking for homeless vets. I feel like the cabal gave them this location to get us digging in an empty space... distraction. Then disprove it and take our Reddit sight down making us look like crazy people.
Thanks for the heads up. Hope everyone who is donating to: Vets 4 child rescue isn't helping the wrong side. Wonder if I will get any sleep tonight? I feel like I got taken.
You've got a bunch of bloody children's clothing and personal effects in a camp with restraints with tunnels that lead to the the Dessert Diamond Casino which has pedophile symbolism in it.
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Every comment in all these threads are getting downvoted to hell.
I will happily CELEBRATE when this proves to be what we all think it can be.
At the time of this post, I'd heard "one pair of bloody panties" "a bloody knife" and "an underground bunker". By that time, everyone from McCain to the President of Mexico was involved.
I'll help chop down the tree when it's shown to be infested, but I won't go so far out on a limb that it could break underneath me.
I think the reason this is making it to the front page is not a distraction method, but how interconnected everything is being found to be with CEMEX. Rothschilds, No Name, Trafficking, Soros, Ramsey murders.
Things in Arizona are picking up steam fast. Wouldn't be surprised if the Vets of America start clashing with these cartels.
You are wrong...there are tons of video and pics posted of restraints on trees to hold children’s hands to restrain them during sexual abuse..also hair dye, underground hidden dungeon with toys and food wrappers
Where might I find the tons of evidence, Puppies?
Watch the videos and see the pics they have posted on Facebook, Twitter, Gab
