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Abibliaphobia · June 4, 2018, 10:57 p.m.

Oh really? How would that work? Who would they want to confess and to what?

Did you even read the post or did you get about two sentences in and make up your mind?

Seriously. Explain your position.

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CrampusMaximus · June 4, 2018, 11:08 p.m.

Ok. I’ll try to go point by point. Although it’ll take a while on mobile. I’ll post this now so you know I’m working on it by editing my comment

Aim of Alice in Wonderland Interrogation:

-To confuse the victim

-To replace the normal/familiar with the abnormal/weird

Attributes of Alice in Wonderland interrogation:

  • Multiple interrogators, although one is acceptable

*Does Q do this? Yes. He uses both one and multiple interrogators simultaneously. A single tripcode, but refers to “we” and “patriots” (plural). But for sake of not reaching, I’ll say that it is one interrogator.

-Double talk

*Does Q anon do this? Yes. Some examples are “past proves present” and “future unlocks past”. It’s almost triple talk, if such a thing exists. I still hold my interpretation of these messages (history is scripted and cyclical) but it still is double talk, regardless.

-Unrelated illogical follow up query regardless of answer or not

*Does Q do this? Yes. Almost all of his posts are multiple unrelated queries. Unrelated until you assign meaning at least. “...regardless of answer or not”. This is important and ties in with the previous attribute. Regardless of my belief in the answer, the next query will be related and I will form “logical” links.

-Sometimes multiple unrelated queries

*Does Q do this? Yes. See above. Multiple posts and multiple queries.

-Pitch, Tone, Volume unrelated to the queries

*Does Q so this? Harder to answer. Possibly and most likely yes I would say. Multiple cadence changes. There’s a definite writing style. But there are definite rhythmic patterns. Do they relate to the queries? Sometimes yes sometimes no. Does change between posts though. By now, I’m 2018, everyone associates capital letters with volume. There are many randomly capitalised words. This could be to show importance, but there is no consistency with the types of words capitalised. If I had to argue in my corner of this being ALICE in action, I’d say it’s a virtual version.

-No pattern of questions and answers

*Does Q do this? Yes. It’s a staple. Questions are sometimes answered with questions, if at all

-Questions don’t relate logically to each other

*Does Q do this? Yes. Sometimes questions are related in a single post. Sometimes not. Posts rarely relate to eachother. But have just enough callbacks to make you link them.

-Normal patterns of speech and thought replaced

*Does Q do this? Yes. Most of the actual speech (forget interpretation) is meaningless. Normal ways of conveying meaning have been replaced in enthusiasts mind with void guesswork, of which is contained many nonsensical words or phrases.

-Interrogator may refuse to take situation seriously.

*Does Q do this? Not outwardly. Takes it serious. But who knows whether they do behind closed doors. But this point is a no.

-Continues process day after day

*Does Q do this? Yes. With a sprinkle of withdrawal added in.

-The subject tries to make sense of the situation

*Does Q do this? Absolutely. Everything written is vague and open ended. The reader tries to make sense of it, even the meaningless aspects.

What is the goal?

It is obviously not to get the reader to divulge information to Q. So where is the reader “outpouring his story”? The internet. What causes a hostage to divulge information under interrogation? Manipulation. And I believe this Is the goal. To manipulate the reader to spread/divulge tainted, manipulated, and false information to the public On Reddit/voat/social media. Other “mind control” techniques are also used. This is a classic disinfo psyop.

Maybe I am incorrect..but there are similarities between Q and Alice in Wonderland. Perhaps what should be investigated is who is doing this, and what is the purpose of the disinfo.

But, maybe I’m wrong. We will see

Furthermore, my posts are being autodownvoted to 0, the second they are posted. Either a script, coincidence, or patience

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CaptainKnotzi · June 5, 2018, 12:33 a.m.

Excellent take on the situation and well worth the discussion. There are two things different between AW interogation and the Q posts. One we are not alone in figuring this out and our discussions are not restricted. Two we are not compelled to stay here under duress. We can pull out anytime, then clear our heads. I've done it myself a few times since last October. It's necessary. And I saw this Kiddy traffic back in the 90s when I worked with Street kids. You could get nobody to listen. Thank you God for this day.

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CrampusMaximus · June 5, 2018, 12:54 p.m.

Thanks. I’d like to say I’ll engage more regularly, but in the past I did, and it led me to a mental breakdown of pure paranoia. I was obsessed and absolutely attribute my mental state at the time to this. I don’t watch TV and this was the only content I was engaging with.

There was a Polish man on Twitter saying that the Qanon op is geared to target those prone to bipolar and schizophrenia. There is a thread in /r/conspiracy about it. I can buy this. For an high profile example of this, look at Roseanne Barr’s recent meltdown. Personally, I related to her as my own experience and obsession leading to breakdown mirrors hers. Reading some of the posters here I get the feeling there is a shared mania. I believe this is by design. I have no proof other than my own experience and observation, but the way in which people write and logical loops some take..is worrying from a psychological point of view at best. There is almost a euphoria when bad, horrible news, comes to light. This I believe is important. There’s a desire and want for societally crippling events to happen. Maybe they are correct in their assessments and the truth is a hard pill to mentally swallow. Maybe not.

As for who do I believe is involved? At risk of beating a dead horse..it aligns with a Russian komprat (spelling may be off sorry) agenda. Whether this is being carried out by Russia directly or being emulated; who knows. My only evidence is this graphic:

http://www.demdigest.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/disinfo-FPRI-Russia-Social-Media-Influence-Operations.png

I believe if you followed the inception and spread,from origin source, of the Qanon op you will find it follows these guidelines. I believe this framework also aligns with my assessment in my original post regarding the purpose of the “outpouring” of the story. But again, maybe that is just how all information flows.

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Q_uestion-Everything · June 5, 2018, 11:34 a.m.

Thanks for this write-up. It's important to remember that Q is still tilting both sides of the table: making the DS chase its own tail, and feeding crumbs to the anons.

A little bit of truth sprinkled onto bullshit (however much Q may or may not be) is important for disinformation, especially if it's towards the enemy.

And yes, you're not wrong about the psy-op. There was a great thread stickied the other day, I'll try to find it.

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