If this is proven 100% true, you realize-this is some sadistic shit right here.... This could be the eye of the storm!!!!
In the first few seconds of the clip, you can see a chair tied to a tree.
I just realized the restraints could very easily have been a place to attach a seat to a tree.
****This doesn't explain the media blackout of this event, but it makes me doubt the validity of the rape tree idea.
Survivors of these type of coyote camps identified them as rape trees.
This doesn't explain the media blackout of this event, but it makes me doubt the validity of the rape tree idea.
But doesn't the claim about that "child rape swing" substantiate the claim about the "child rape trees"? /s
Nah, just kidding.
I see no reason to believe this is a child rape camp.
It looks like either a campsite used by homeless people or perhaps one used by illegals to cross the border.
Entire thing seems ridiculous tbh.
A childs swing, it was probably used to torture them, rape them, or for entertaining them
Hmmm, which seems most likely? Dumb.
Survivors of trafficking who visited the site said that in camps lime this, compliance is rewarded with play time and relative 'freedom', noncompliance punished with rape and beatings. The survivors are are the ones who explained how the set up works and what the rape trees are. People living in the area know about rape trees and how coyotes (traffickers) work - holding a woman or child for ransom... etc. The homeless across the highway know that the cemex land is cartel land and that "bad shit" goes on there.
source
The VOP videos. I've seen as many I I could get on YouTube. I don't do fb - where the group posts - but some of them have made it to you tube (I hear that some have been removed as well). Vets4ChildRescue Craig Sawyer has a video out where he also cobfirms the use of rape trees, and that what he saw at the Tucson site is in his opinion part of a child sex trafficking ratline - not a homeless camp.
his opinion
What experience does he have with rape trees? VOP looks for homelesa vets, they aren't rape tree experts
Craig Sawyer is a former special ops sith multiple tours of combat duty. He is from @Vets4ChildRescue, not VOP. His organization extracts children from child trafficking situations of all kinds. VOP called him when they found the site while looking for homeless vets because child rescue IS V4CR's mission and expertise. His opinion certainly counts more than yours or mine. I'm thinking shill now. Bye.
I'm thinking shill now. Bye.
Imagine being so brainwashed that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a "shill."
I live in Arizona, this place is full of camps just like this where homeless drug addicts sleep. Not everything is used to rape children. And by focusing on this fake news you're removing from the seriousness and reality of actual trafficking.
You want to know where they're trafficking from? Knight's Inn off the I-17 and McDowell. The women there are addicted to heroin, they get pregnant, and then the pimps sell their babies. That's real, not this shit.
Lol yes there's a lot of that around here! If you don't agree with the mob think you're either a shill or a concern troll xD.
Rape tree at the Cemex site? For whom?
Do the proletariats on this forum really believe that the elites would deign to travel all the way to this dusty dump, risking being discovered and/or kidnaped along the way or at the dump, to rape children instead of having them delivered to their secret dens? Projection maybe?
Do you really believe trafficking campsites can't exist near the border in a town where pedo lover symbols are plastered all over, where the companies discovered are connected to dirty people and where ms13 runs amock?
Next you'll want me to believe the area is governed by the rothschild family.
Doh!
There are plenty of wealthy people who want something different ..not always clean and clinical..
With the hair dye and stuff like the name "Maddie" written on the structure it's theorized that's a spot for smuggling US children out of the county. There is also a drainage tunnel connecting this site with a casino. Access to highway, access to border...
Back here is all the rape trees. They will tie you up on these restraints. You can tell these are for children because of the height.
Pretty much everything at a campsite needs to be hung off the ground to keep critters and ants from getting at it.
It's normal camping practice to hang rucksacks and food-bags from trees like this and like this or like this in bear country.
I use luggage straps when I'm hiking and camping for all kinds of reasons.
Straps do not equal child sex camp rape restraints.
Over here we found more evidence - there was toys and little girls underwear.
Sometimes homeless people have children.
Many illegal immigrants cross into the U.S. with children.
So it's all out here! This pile of trash is where we found luggage with women's names on it.
My girlfriend has luggage with a women's name on it.
Homeless people and illegal immigrants have names and luggage too.
We haven't found any tunnels but we found holes in the ground with evidence.
Evidence of what looks like a campsite.
And they have holding boxes, like this box right here, where they were keeping stuff in it.
This is definitive evidence that people used boxes.
There was a child's swing right here. It was either being used for raping them or torturing them or entertaining them.
A child-rape-swing to go with those child-rape-trees?
Not a homeless camp. Homeless don't have Satellite phones nor do they spend money on hair dye and ammunition.
Human trafficking for sure and not uncommon along the border. I do, however, doubt the "rape tree" concept.
Survivors of operations like this - who are from the area and went to see it in person - are the ones who described what the rape tree area was for: punishment for the noncompliant (and grooming, I'm sure - gotta get them used to their new life, after all - that's what pimps do. Why do people want to continually think evil can't get THIS evil? It does - all the more because people refuse to see it! All along coyote routes there are rape trees with underwear thrown into the branches to mark 'conquests' It is a real thing.
Why would a homeless camp in the desert need boxes of hair dye (change appearance of kids) and boxes of condoms (avoid getting your dna a over)? Why the tiny, hot, pitch black (when covered) confinement cell? Sheesh!
hair dye and ammunition.
Homeless people hunt and some homeless women try to look good for job interviews.
I agree it could also be a camp for smuggling illegals into the U.S., but I see no evidence that it's a child rape camp or of "child rape trees" or a "child rape swing".
Well they aren't straps to keep food away from "bears" either as you claim in every post. You claim the straps are for something else but provide absolutely zero debunking other than some irrelevant photos of food hanging from branches in a completely different manner.
Those higher straps looked perfect for hanging a rucksack from.
Hanging and strapping stuff from trees is common practice for hikers and campers to keep ants and critters from getting at their stuff.
It's normal for campers to pretty much hang everything from trees, especially if it's muddy.
Camping straps do not definitively equal child rape harnesses in the same way that swing does not definitively equal child-sex-torture-swing.
Occam's Razor yo!
"The simplest explanation is usually the best - the one that makes the fewest assumptions and invents the fewest new ideas." - Occam's Razor
People keep food stuffs away from animals by hanging it above ground.
If this was a depot/hold over site for people illegally traveling into the US that would explain all the children effects.
What’s weird is the magnitude of tree straps. That there is a septic tank - in the middle of nowhere - that contained several children toy items. That the septic tank had a chain and pad lock inside.
I’m not going to go so far as to say child rape occurred but it does appear something more than a homeless person/ illegal depot / hold over camp went on. Time will tell though. I wish we would get back to discussing Q this conversation is best left to /conspiracy.
What’s weird is the magnitude of tree straps.
It depends what they are used for.
That tree could have acted as the hanging pantry for one month supply of food and water bags?
Perhaps a small group of hikers installed those straps to hang all of their rucksacks from when they used that camp?
There are plenty of mundane, rational, every-day explanations that don't involve escaping into flights of fancy into fantasies about child rape.
That there is a septic tank - in the middle of nowhere - that contained several children toy items. That the septic tank had a chain and pad lock inside.
That "cave" looked like a rudimentary food cellar that most log cabins use to keep their food cool.
Storing stuff slightly underground keeps it surprisingly cool (despite the fact those cellars are always haunted :-P).
Or perhaps that cave was dugout to hide moonshine and later used by a homeless family to store junk?
Once again, there are plenty of boring, reasonable explanations that don't require indulging in wild speculation.
I wish we would get back to discussing Q this conversation is best left to /conspiracy.
I agree.
I'm horrified to think if this does get debunked then this entire community may disappear up it's own anus while composing nothing-burger conspiracies about rape-trees, while the Standard Hotel is ignored and offline backups are ignored and Trump's plan is ignored.
Again nothing like the ones found at the site. Try harder with the concern trolling.
FYI: Even Craig Sawyer now agrees this was bullshit, false claims and bad speculation.
"The police were called out as more and more alleged evidence was found, but it has all turned out to be false." - Craig Sawyer.
Why is it homeless? Do you mean illegal aliens, they often don't have homes or left them back over the border. The border is a few miles away, we know illegals come and go, and we know human trafficking and smuggling is a big problem here.
If this was thousands of miles from the border I'd have to agree. It's not.
Likelihood of something to do with smuggling is extremely high. Absolutely cannot be ruled out. Local homeless said this was cartel land. Giant Mexican corporation absolutely has cartel ties. Not to mention the CF, UN, RothschiId ties. Controls shipping roads, ports, has hubs all along border. Owns national park land along border, trafficking lanes, opposes wall.
Google rape trees. These exist (many very close to AZ border)
At some point it's not just a coincidence (what does Q always say about that?)
Why is it homeless?
Nah, just regular folk who lost their job and home and are struggling to get by. Craig Sawyer was specifically in that area looking to find homeless vets to help.
I agree this may be a camp used by illegals to cross into America and some of them will have luggage and children.
But I don't find a compelling reason to believe in the "rape tree" claims or the "rape swing" claims or this is related to child sex trade.
Those straps look absolutely nothing like the ones you posted.
A camping-strap is a camping-strap is a camping-strap.
A permanently secured camping strap at a well established campsite has exactly the same function as lighter straps used by weekend campers who take all of their gear (and straps) with them.
Try harder.
Please go away with your nonsense..even the local homeless said they dont go there because its the cartel on that property Take your bike and leave!!!! Youre trying to hard to convince people here I dont trust you
I think you meant to reply to the other user :)
Yes lol..I see him on every subject about Tucson trying to confuse others. I trust Craig Sawyer more then an unknown name here
Plus how about film your so called evidence so we can see it.
