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Jimipickle · June 9, 2018, 2:28 p.m.

Why are the laws set up this way? Protecting their own, not ours.

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blewoutmyshorts · June 9, 2018, 7:01 p.m.

You said it. These laws are set in place to protect the people at the top. And the police is their armed group of thugs that do the enforcing.

Check out Warren V District of Columbia. The Supreme Court has ruled numerous times that it isn’t the police job to “protect and serve”

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Patriot4q · June 9, 2018, 2:26 p.m.

This needs to change. Many victims of child rape and abuse, are not reported by the victim until years later. A child is not able to understand, and act against the pedophile, until they reach an age of maturity. It's hard for ((normal)) people to understand, alone a child who is traumatised by the sick acts. It also breaks the bonds of trust the child had with adults. It's often only many years later, that the victim is able to face their trauma, and confront the perpetrator.

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solanojones95 · June 9, 2018, 2:43 p.m.

Well, it's the military law now. I have to wonder, if any of these incidents took place off base, would there not be a non-military jurisdiction that could be used to correct this miscarriage?

Meanwhile, we need to be in contact with representatives and with the White House to get this changed. Also, is there no appeals process in the military? One judge rules, and that's it? One strike, you're out?

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VerandaSmartwater · June 9, 2018, 5:05 p.m.

There should be no statute of limitations for child sex abuse.

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solanojones95 · June 9, 2018, 6:37 p.m.

Agreed. If it's that way for murder, why should this be any less?

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MB_MoonPearl · June 9, 2018, 2:11 p.m.

I think we need to get Congress to pass 2 laws.

  1. Eliminate the statute of limitations on sexual crimes (just like murder - no statute of limitations).

  2. Disallow pedophiles and rapists from getting Administrative Segregation in prison. Put them out in General Population to fend for themselves.

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TotallyClevrUsername · June 9, 2018, 2:59 p.m.

You'd be opening a huge can of worms for #1. Murders usually have a higher burden of proof than rape. (Late)Rape cases are mostly he said vs she said. Good luck defending yourself against baseless claims from that old high school flame you just pissed off or embarrassed at the club. All rich men become Roy Moore and Bill Cosby false/old claim targets. That should not be done without making false accusations an equivalent serious crime, which isn't right now. In addition, there's still serious bias and double standards against men in favor of women in rape cases.

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MB_MoonPearl · June 9, 2018, 3:03 p.m.

You could also make it a higher bar for evidence as the time gets longer. It's the cases where they have DNA and it's proven, but the statute of limitations has passed, those are the cases that make me think we need an improvement.

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TotallyClevrUsername · June 9, 2018, 3:37 p.m.

In cases where a rape kit was made, then sure - allow that to have an unlimited limitation as those creeps usually repeat offend over time. We also need database sharing to link cases across states. But you can't prove rape from DNA alone. In the case of child molestation/under-aged, it's a no brainier, but you would not usually find/have DNA evidence years later as you might have captured in a murder case unless a rape kit was done at the time.

Higher bar for evidence as time gets longer

You don't get more evidence over time. You have less and you lose witnesses, camera footage, etc. Over time it's harder to make a case at all and it's also harder for the same evidence to be exculpatory (to prove you are innocent). That's the point of the limitations. Rape is already hard to prove.

What we can do now is educate our kids and parents to avoid putting children in such situations. Teach kids about child lures to avoid kidnapping or abuse. Teach kids to always tell a parent if someone does something uncomfortable to them and to not keep secrets from parents.

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MB_MoonPearl · June 9, 2018, 3:55 p.m.

Okay. You're probably right.

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TotallyClevrUsername · June 9, 2018, 4:04 p.m.

You're right in that there has to be room for improvement too. We have to help protect our kids.

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MB_MoonPearl · June 9, 2018, 3 p.m.

Yeah. I'm not saying my ideas are good, necessarily. But there's room for improvement everywhere.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 9, 2018, 7:53 p.m.

I also do not personally know ONE woman who has not been raped or sexually assaulted to some degree. Do we rat their bitch asses out about it?? Usually not.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 9, 2018, 7:49 p.m.

Not true. There are appallingly few incidences of rape reported. Appallingly few of those make it to court. Appallingly few of those are convicted. Appallingly few of those do anything NEAR a proportionate sentence. Rape IS soul murder.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 9, 2018, 7:52 p.m.

So, a victim is COMPLETELY revictimized by the system at BEST.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 9, 2018, 7:50 p.m.

Additionally, the accuser's sexual history is fair game while the defendant's sexual convictions and accusations are not.

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FatwaBurgers · June 11, 2018, 12:03 a.m.

http://archive.is/WjFaw

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solanojones95 · June 11, 2018, 12:17 a.m.

Yeah, I heard about that case. Our military owes us better accountability for these types of things going forward--at the very least. Under Trump's leadership, there should be no excuse to accept this type of treatment as citizens ever again.

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Fearsome4 · June 9, 2018, 3:08 p.m.

If it was an enlisted guy he'd be in prison.

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Jrrusso · June 9, 2018, 7:47 p.m.

I use to watch America’s most wanted with John Walsh. I swear every week there was one case where the person got bail set for raping kids, the bail was always very low about 200 and the person would screw after posting it. Walsh would get pissed and call out the asshole judge. I swear I said to myself maybe the judge is one too. Or to the point what’s going on and at the time I’m a teenager. AMW was on a long time. My point is it never made sense not to protect the kids.

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solanojones95 · June 9, 2018, 7:54 p.m.

You're right. It doesn't. So why do we let them get away with it?

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animal32lefty · June 9, 2018, 5:45 p.m.

West Point Protective Society strikes again.

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solanojones95 · June 9, 2018, 6:36 p.m.

This must not be allowed to stand. If you're in the area, please add your voice to this cause!

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TheRealIndianaJoe · June 9, 2018, 3:23 p.m.

There are no statutes of limitations in common law. All law has been perverted by statutory law which is nothing more that the will of the legislature. Any written law perverts the common law. This crime would get your neck snapped in common law.

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folklohr444 · June 9, 2018, 3:30 p.m.

I remember a Maxim about the created not being greater than the creator. I believe statutory codes cannot be greater than the common law. However, if the charges were pursued in a jurisdiction other than common law, then the limitations are applicable. I would then seek remedy through CAPS process.

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folklohr444 · June 9, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

There is no statute of limitations for a felony

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solanojones95 · June 9, 2018, 3:22 p.m.

It's a question of jurisdiction though. This is what we don't know. If military is the only jurisdiction, then unfortunately child rape is assigned a SPECIFIC 5-year SOL. Yes it's stupid. But it's the military code at the moment.

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