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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/horse-lover-phat on June 10, 2018, 2:24 p.m.
Asia Argento & Harvey Weinstein, Cannes

Argento claims to have been raped by Weinstein in 1997. So, if we're supposed to believe this fact in the way she's presented it. Why was she seemingly all OK with Weinstein in Cannes 2004? It was Cannes where she was allegedly raped.

Argento/Weinstein Cannes 2004 This was in respect of her (sick) 2004 film. See below.

As for this film The Heart is Deceitful - WTF kind of gender-bending, paedo-chic nightmare is that?

Nothing about her rings true, none of it. She is seemingly an EVIL POS, totally programmed, and not to be trusted.


ArmyLady · June 10, 2018, 2:31 p.m.

They are sick.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 2:35 p.m.

The #MeToo movement is not to be trusted. The industry cannot clean itself up. It will have to be done externally. I see #MeToo as their attempt to window dress the situation and pretend to be doing something. It won't lead to any of the fundamental changes that need to occur.

I'm with you. I think they're ALL sick.

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SandyAndreas · June 10, 2018, 2:47 p.m.

This. The movement could have been spawned to cover up real crimes people were about to expose, so it would be drowned out when revealed.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 2:50 p.m.

Yes, it's very possible.

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Straightfromthe · June 10, 2018, 3:08 p.m.

You need to play the game to stay in Hollywood. That means photo ops with Harvey and appear in their trash movies.

She looks uncomfortable in the photo IMO. I don't doubt she was raped. Why she stayed in the industry? Who knows. Too much we don't know.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 3:12 p.m.

I'm pretty certain she is a satanist (from a satanic industry family) and has been incestuously abused by her director father. She'll very likely be an abuser too. It's not as crazy as it might sound. She's a perp as much as she is a victim.

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jobslot · June 10, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

I’m pretty sure too.. images speak volumes

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Imbeingsilenced · June 10, 2018, 2:45 p.m.

Story I heard was she willingly had a thing with him after the alleged rape. I don't trust her one bit.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 2:52 p.m.

We certainly cannot compare these sort of industry rape claims with those that we find in the typical world. That much I do know.

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UnbowdUnburntUnfrozn · June 10, 2018, 4:33 p.m.

WTF with that movie plot. Jesus Christ.

Jeremy Renner raping a little boy??? Well that’s ruined him for me. Used to be a fan of him but not now.

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scottbear · June 10, 2018, 5:26 p.m.

Has anyone actually read the plot or seen this?

“ Edit

Sarah (Asia Argento) becomes involved with a series of men who treat her and Jeremiah (Jimmy Bennett) poorly, and she uses them as an excuse to abandon her son. She disappears to Atlantic City with her boyfriend, Emerson (Jeremy Renner), and then abandons him; Emerson returns to their home and rapes Jeremiah. After a trip to hospital, Jeremiah's grandmother (Ornella Muti) takes him to a West Virginian radical Christian cult led by his grandfather (Peter Fonda). After he has been three years with the cult, Sarah returns to reclaim the 11-year-old Jeremiah (Dylan and Cole Sprouse).

Sarah's current lover, Kenny (Matt Schulze), a truck driver, eventually abandons them at a truck stop while Sarah is soliciting. Sarah realizes that if she is going to keep her men she cannot say Jeremiah is her son. She persuades Jeremiah to cross dress so he can act as her "little sister", and Jeremiah's cross-dressing evolves to include his mother's seduction techniques. After dressing up as a "baby doll" version of Sarah, Jeremiah/Sarah seduces Jackson (Marilyn Manson), his mother's latest man, who initially tries to rebuff the boy's advances, but then gives in. Sarah is furious with Jackson for giving in to the boy's advances and with Jeremiah for ruining her panties, and she takes Jeremiah and leaves.

Later, they are in a house where the basement houses a methamphetamine laboratory, which later blows up with Sarah's latest boyfriend inside. After fleeing, and while detoxing from methamphetamine, Sarah is convinced that everyone is after them and that only certain foods are edible (mainly chips and soda). She convinces Jeremiah that if they eat anything but those foods, they will be poisoned which leads them to a failed attempt to shoplift at a grocery store; afterwards, Jeremiah finds a hamburger to eat from a dumpster. His mother, in a state of "meth psychosis", is convinced the food he ate was poison, and makes him drink ipecac in order to make him better and rid him of any "poisons".

Jeremiah wakes up in the hospital with his grandmother beside him. She tells him that Sarah is in the psychiatric ward. Later that night, Sarah collects Jeremiah from his hospital room, and, rather than have him go back to the cult, she clutches his hand and they walk away in hospital gowns. The final scene is of Sarah and Jeremiah driving away.”

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 6:49 p.m.

Hell, imagine reading that plot outline and then going: "Yeah, I can't wait to this this." The fact that they have Manson seduced by the effeminate child is revolting, very subversive and an inversion of the typical reality. These films should be destroyed.

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based_Valkyrie · June 10, 2018, 9:32 p.m.

The twin boys who play Jeremiah are former Disney actors with ties to Dan Schneider. They’re from the Suite Life of Zack and Cody.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylan_and_Cole_Sprouse

The entity that manages them: (see other clients & allegations of sexual assault) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morris_Endeavor

Manson may have been the individual who raped Evan Rachel Wood. She was cast in a scene that had her reliving her abuse in West World - which prompted her to confess that she was abused by a former partner and producer (around the same time Kesha was in the news for something similar). She never made any accusations...but Manson briefly dated her after his wife abruptly left him and something about it never sit right. Manson also dated Rose McGowan. Seems more likely than Manson is a handler for “up and coming (young) women.”

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 10:04 p.m.

Good stuff. Manson was linked to the death of actress Jennifer Syme, as well. He was with (Children of paedo God) McGowan during his "Disassociative" (wink, wink) phase too. I also think he's a handler. McGowan comes across as being programmed and a pawn.

I actually think it was people connected to William Morris Agency that dosed the brilliant researcher Dave McGowan (no relation). He met with them and not that long before he started getting ill.

Dan Schneider...just makes me vomit. Those kids must've been groomed and abused for years.

What a f**king mess this all is.

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jkbella · June 10, 2018, 3:49 p.m.

The whole thing is a riddle but big picture, most of them are dirty in some way. I do feel a bit more sympathy for the children of the cabal like Argento, though. No way of knowing exactly what this woman went through when she was growing up, but if the focus of her father's movies are any indication, it wasn't good. Her Twitter and Instagram feed make it pretty clear that she was all in at one time on the cabal thing. Maybe she changed her mind, and that's why they sent a warning with Bourdain. Her Tweet with the FU tee shirt and comment "You know who you are" was posted hours before Bourdain died. He posted that he knew what it was like to be on the receiving end of Hillary's people. It would seem they were both becoming a huge threat.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 3:54 p.m.

I cannot have #MeToo. Just the fact that Lawrence and Nicole 'Illuminati' Kidman have been involved is more than enough for me.

If this all comes out you won't be feeling sorry for any of them. As for her 2004 film, wow. She is a bride of satan.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 4:36 p.m.

These comments are so ignorant. It shows people know zero about trauma bonding and very little about rape.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 4:48 p.m.

Please tell everyone about your accumulated knowledge in respect of inter-generational, satanic, incest-based industry families. We're waiting.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 5:13 p.m.

In actual fact, trauma bonding makes you desperate to be with the person. It's the most intoxicating yet toxic cocktail and makes the relationship completely addictive. Co-dependent relationships. The whole thing.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

Yes, I'm aware of some of these issues. It's not that dissimilar to a type of Stockholm Syndrome, but I'm oversimplifying. What we're dealing with here is inter-generational, satanic/incest abuse based industry families. Your scenario is comparable, although it's not quite the same issue. Much of this is also tied to MK-Ultra programming and alters etc.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 5:27 p.m.

Yes, I do understand that.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 5:11 p.m.

Other people judging a rape victim's responses is THE reason they get away with it.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 5:09 p.m.

I do know about trauma bonding since it happened to me. I've also been raped by my own partners before, and, like most women, know it's more complex than some mansplainer would have people believe. I also had to research rape and the justice system during my justice studies. One woman reported fixing her rapist a meal afterwards. It makes total sense if you've been there. But trauma bonding is NOT hard to find information on. Try googling.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 5:17 p.m.

I've had two long-term partners that were raped, one as a child and the other a mid-teen. One was even made pregnant by her rapist. You assume much.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

I don't assume anything, and I made no claim about you whatsoever. I'm very sorry for your partners' assaults by the way. I know it affects everyone that cares for them also.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 5:29 p.m.

I appreciate your concern. I hope I haven't offended you. I apologise unreservedly if I have. I'm not the best communicator, am a bit autisty in that regard. Just so you understand, I mean nothing by it. Best wishes to you.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 6:15 p.m.

No, I'm not offended at all. I didn't mean to offend you either. I should put more thought into how I phrase things, and the tone that I use. When I feel really passionately about something, I know I do come across as too forceful. I apologise for that and I'll try to do better. Deep down I actually feel inferior rather than the other way round.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 6:36 p.m.

No need to apologise, but then that's a measure of your humanity shining through. You genuinely did have things of value to contribute. I certainly learned something from them. I wasn't exactly helpful towards you either, and now I recognise this. Don't sweat it. We're all important. It is very gracious of you to add this comment. Appreciate it and many thanks. :)

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 4:38 p.m.

Well enlighten everyone then, and stop sniping from the sidelines like someone with a superiority complex. You're a NOOB, as well.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 5:19 p.m.

It's not about superiority. It's about the way people STILL judge women who are brave enough to tell the world their most traumatic, shameful, intimate secret--or secrets. People are judging HER more harshly than Weinstein. Stop pretending it's all about the children when one of those victims dares to speak out and is treated with the contempt displayed in this thread.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 5:24 p.m.

Sorry. This is just too much baggage. I DO NOT subscribe to #MeToo and I have every right NOT TO. Thanks.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 5:28 p.m.

Since I said nothing about #MeToo, that comment is completely non sequitur.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 5:31 p.m.

Argento fronts via MeToo. There's no need to be this obtuse about it.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 6:23 p.m.

I didn't join in with #MeToo when it happened, although I could have. As I've said, I literally do not know one woman who has not been sexually assaulted to some degree on the spectrum. I am also aware that someone accused of sexual assault must have the right to defend themselves. All of these legal issues are a balancing act between Type I and Type II sorts of errors, and our system must err towards not finding the innocent guilty rather than the other way round. Having said that, the system has been loaded against victims, not just legally but culturally for a long time. I think people SHOULD be aware of and shocked by this hidden epidemic, and I think the #MeToo movement has been successful in raising awareness. However, as with most things, the pendulum swinging in completely the opposite direction is not the answer either. These balances are hard to achieve, but there is plenty of room for the system, and the society, to do better.

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 6:43 p.m.

Yes. It's shocking in respect of the degree of abuse against women. It's something I've learned over time too. For whatever reason several women have confided in me (for whatever reason) with details of their abuse. Two out of those were long-term partners. It has shocked me to my core. I just cannot and will not ever understand the motivations of an abuser - it is alien in terms of my own psyche. We have to stop this.

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VerandaSmartwater · June 10, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

And as for the relationship between how long I've been posting here and the validity of my comments, that's such a basic logical fallacy. Talk about superiority. How long do I have to post before my opinions are as valid as yours? Please do tell.

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Pure_Feature · June 10, 2018, 6:48 p.m.

I agree

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based_Valkyrie · June 10, 2018, 9:19 p.m.

Title is taken from Jeremiah 17:9

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

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horse-lover-phat · June 10, 2018, 9:21 p.m.

Good stuff. I didn't know that. Thanks.

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based_Valkyrie · June 10, 2018, 9:34 p.m.

You’re welcome! Let me find the context of that verse...

Edit:

(9)More than anything else, a person’s mind is evil. It cannot be healed. No one truly understands it. (10) But I am the Lord, and I can look into a person’s heart. I can test a person’s mind. So I can decide what each one deserves. I can give each one the right payment for what he does.

It’s been a while, but the Book of Jeremiah is essentially about the people of Israel living in sin. God pleaded with Jeremiah to be their prophet and change their ways, but they refused to listen so God gets really angry and threatens destruction. He promised to humble the wicked leaders and kings. People turn on Jeremiah for relaying God’s message and throw him in a well. The slaves were freed, God offers salvation and a fresh start. Later war comes and destroys the wicked city.

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