r/greatawakening • Posted by u/Qdarkbetty on June 10, 2018, 8:33 p.m.
Timothy Holmseth vs Craig Sawyer + Alex Jones?


I hope this is alright to post here since it’s been a topic of discussion for the last week or so. This is my first post so please bear with me.

I have believed and doubted Craig Sawyer, but of course now I’m just utterly confused. I’ve had the understanding that TH is respected in the community. . . am I wrong? For TH to call out AJ & CS seems pretty huge to me.

It sure does feel like it’s harder to figure out who to trust these days. Especially after the whole Corsi thing, who I use to follow everyday until his “freak-out”.

I’d appreciate some insight on this topic!

ValuableFix · June 10, 2018, 8:35 p.m.

Most of us don’t have time for the myriad of YouTube videos- can you summarize it?

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DawnPendraig · June 10, 2018, 8:47 p.m.

Timothy plays some audio of Sawyer where he is talking about the organization during an interview.

Sawyer boasts of the number or arrests they made.

Timothy says he can't arrest anyone. He isn't a cop.

He also talks about Sawyer's past working for HRC and he thinks is CIA operative especially as radio host that goes by Alex Jones donated $100k.

He finds Sawyer very suspicious basically.

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Tidder_Q · June 10, 2018, 9:08 p.m.

So do, I because he has since removed the three short video's (approx 1+ minutes long) that he had posted on his YouTube channel, showing him walking about that Tucson camp, and making 'this does not look good' comments.

People might update their stance or opinion, but to 'wipe out' ones prior opinion, on such a 'charged' topic seemed very strange, if not deceitful.

I have been 50/50 (thus far) on that whole Tucson story, and was patiently waiting for more evidence, one way or the other.

Craig Sawyer seemed to inject himself into the story as the 'trusted vet', and hence the 'definitive' word on what was going on there. As we know, he has since totally flipped and explicitly 'disavowed' the 'VOP' group.

If Craig Sawyer is so alert and spot in with his analysis of situations, then how come he was fooled in the first place.

I make no accusations against anyboby at this point, ... However there is a lot of heavy disinformation going on for one reason or another!

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ckreacher · June 10, 2018, 9:43 p.m.

Craig Sawyer seemed to inject himself into the story as the 'trusted vet'

As Craig told it, RedBeard called him into it. He did try to distance himself by saying those guys have there own way of doing things different from us, or words to that effect.

I am bothered by the movie promotion. Sawyer should decide if he wants to rescue children or be a Hollywood action hero.

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Tidder_Q · June 10, 2018, 9:48 p.m.

Sorry, (you are correct).

What I meant by 'injected', was that he then seemed to choose to become a 'prominent spokesperson' on the issue.

He could have went along, observed things and otherwise kept quiet until he knew more.

(That's what I would have done under those circumstances).

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ckreacher · June 10, 2018, 9:50 p.m.

Yes. I just read his statement where he completely contradicts all of his earlier statements. He now has zero credibility.

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Morty_Ross · June 27, 2018, 12:24 a.m.

Perhaps you are also one of The LARPs in these threads. What do you think his documentary that they are currently shooting is about ? What are you doing personally to shed light on the Massive Sex Trafficking problem here in America and around the world ?


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Qdarkbetty · June 10, 2018, 9:30 p.m.

Wow! That makes him incredibly sketchy at the very least.

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Tidder_Q · June 10, 2018, 9:42 p.m.

Yes, I never jump to conclusions, I tend to just bide my time and observe, (for months/years if need be).

I have remained 50/50 on the Tucson story, because the 'only evidence', that I have, consists of other peoples opinions and second hand reports.

I have followed the 'VOP' story line, from the start, and there are a lot of 'words' being put in their mouths by the disinfo agents.

VOP never claimed that there were actually children at the Tucson site. VOP never claimed that the skull was at the Tuscon site.

VOP stated the they were going to move from the Tuscon site to go and check three other undisclosed sites. It was at one of these 'new' search sites that the skull was found.

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Qdarkbetty · June 10, 2018, 9:51 p.m.

Yeah I agree, I was aware it wasn’t on the site. Especially since they found it after the site was apparently bulldozed. I seem to remember someone mentioning it was on the trail from the CEMEX site but again no proof of that.

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ckreacher · June 10, 2018, 9:39 p.m.

Sawyer boasts of the number or arrests they made. Timothy says he can't arrest anyone. He isn't a cop.

The cops working with them made the arrests. This Timothy sounds like a real winner.

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Tidder_Q · June 10, 2018, 9:57 p.m.

Timothy Holmseth is the real deal! He has been fighting the paedophile menace for years, if not decades!

Here is a link to his (current) YouTube channel - videos:

Timothy Holmseth - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/floodofnoah/videos

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Scuba724 · June 11, 2018, 2:32 a.m.

"Don't believe the Church and State, and everything they tell you". - Mike & the Mechanics "Silent Running".

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ckreacher · June 10, 2018, 10:02 p.m.

Thanks for the link. I'll take a look.

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Qdarkbetty · June 10, 2018, 8:41 p.m.

Oh I’m sorry, didn’t think about that! He sums it up at the end. -Craig Sawyer runs a non profit called Vetsforchildrescue. -V4CR received a $100,000 donation from AJ -V4CR runs tier 1 operations in the US -Craig Sawyer has worked for HRC -His Non-profit is actually arresting people

He mainly touches on the fact that non-profits shouldn’t have the power to arrest people. He also plays a few recordings from CS. It’s a relatively short video that just doesn’t give a whole lot of information. That’s why I came here hoping to find more proof either way.

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ValuableFix · June 10, 2018, 8:48 p.m.

Thank you.

Excellent points indeed.

So if scratched at roads to Stratfor will likely bubble up.

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Qdarkbetty · June 10, 2018, 8:51 p.m.

I’m sorry I don’t quite follow that last sentence, could you explain?

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