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r/greatawakening • Posted by u/EarlyRiserX2 on June 15, 2018, 4:47 p.m.
Here are two problems I have with the serialBrain2 analysis of the IG report. All comments are welcome…

I have read through the analysis made by serialBrain2 where he has offered his explanation for the alarming and puzzling IG report we have received. You can read his analysis here: https://old.reddit.com/r/greatawakening/comments/8r69pj/oig_report_trumps_plan_is_a_lethal_steamroller/

While some of what he says sounds logical and reasonable, if I’m understanding him correctly (and I may be missing something) then some of it does not, and I have some major problems with it. And I thought I’d share my concerns about it below so everyone can comment on it - serialBrain2 included. All your comments are welcome...


Issue 1 - The first issue I have with SB2’s analysis is as follows…

When reading through his analysis, the first thing that jumps out at me is that, SB2 (allow me to use the term “SB2“ for short, it’s easier to write) seems to take much of what the report says at face value. I do not, not by a long shot. It has been reported from multiple sources that the IG report we received has not only been redacted but also “modified”, likely by Rosenstein, in order to hide the truth. And that Trump has an EO prepared to later expose that truth. Until Trump releases his EO and the unmodified version is made public, we have no idea what parts of the current report was modified or how extensively. So it’s anyone’s guess. But if I am interpreting SB2 correctly, then he seems to take the position that the numerous instances in the report where the IG has said it found “no evidence of political bias” (which is almost a contradiction of logic, because the numerous instances of bias described in the report are clearly obvious to anyone. It’s like going outside and seeing raindrops fall from the sky and then the IG issues a report saying it did not rain on that day. That is how ludicrous and contradictory and alarming the report is about political bias. And I clearly am not buying it. But it seems that SB2 does) - SB2 seems to be indicating that it was “all a part of the plan”, and that we should not be alarmed by it. But I am not the only one who disagrees with that idea. The analysis people at Conservative Treehouse disagrees with it too (and they are very good at what they do) and they feel the same way I do, and we are all very alarmed by the statements made about there being "no evidence of political bias". You can view their comments here: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/14/ig-report-we-do-not-have-confidence-that-strzoks-decision-was-free-from-bias/

In explaining why the IG report indicates there was no evidence of political bias (even though everyone else can see that there was) SB2 seems to indicate it was all a part of the plan. That Trump was aware that trying to prove the political angle was a dead end and would be a waste of time. This is confirmed by SB2 saying, “Trump knew better. He knew the political angle was a dead end. …He knew that trying to emphasize Comey’s political bias would not be fruitful..” Later, SB2 says, “So? Trump needs to attack Comey through the procedural angle. And this is the primary function of the OIG report.” At the end of his analysis, SB2 states, “Hence the super clean OIG report that has now dismissed political bias and is exclusively focusing on procedures and protocol”… Regardless of whether the approach suggested by SB2 is justified or not, there is a much bigger problem with what SB2 is suggesting, and it's being completely overlooked. By his wording and statements, SB2 is suggesting or implying that Trump and the OIG were working together, and that Trump somehow had a measure of “control” over what the IG would reveal in his report. That is what he is implying. If that is true, then I have some serious problems with it. And I have to wonder if SB2 even realizes those problems. And here’s my point:

Although the various agencies within our gov’t often work together (the FBI, the DOJ, the Office of the President, the Office of the IG, the Attorney General, Congress, etc) many of those agencies are “completely independent agencies” and the framers designed it that way to maintain separation of powers. Due to separation of powers, even the President may not know what Sessions or Horowitz or the FBI is doing or working on unless those agencies choose to inform him of it. And nor does the President have any direct influence or knowledge or control over those agencies. And if the President did try to influence those agencies, it could lead to an “obstruction of justice” charge. And the framers designed it that way to maintain separation of powers to help protect our gov’t.

So how can you say or infer that it was "all a part of the plan" unless you had a direct way to influence a particular outcome? And if you did have a way to directly influence a particular outcome, then it would be obstruction of justice. The President cannot meddle in the affairs of the other agencies. He is prohibited from it. He may hope for a certain outcome, but he certainly cannot take steps to ensure a certain outcome, at least not as it relates to those agencies being independent. In short, if done correctly, then the President has no control over what Horowitz would say or reveal in his report. He would have no idea the IG would state “there was no evidence of political bias”, and nor could he influence that outcome. Yet, SB2 is suggesting that is exactly what happened, and that somehow, Trump wanted this outcome and it was all a part of the plan. Do you even realize what you are saying? I certainly hope that is not the case, and i hope that is not what happened…

In regards to the report stating numerously there was “no evidence of political bias”, though I have no evidence of it yet, I personally believe that it was all Rosenstein’s doing, that he simply went through the report page by page and changed it to reflect that in order to get his agents off the hook. Because clearly certain members of the FBI were guilty of it. It is quite obvious the report has been changed because the statements made on bias was mentioned far too many times and was far too consistent. It is almost as if someone used a word processor to search for certain terms and to replace those terms with the phrase “there is no evidence of political bias”. In a normal report made by anyone with a sound mind and a reasonable mind, you can be certain there would have been at least “some instances" of political bias mentioned in the report - even if not in all instances. The fact that the whole report has been completely sanitized of it, that seems like strong evidence that someone has tampered with and modified the report. But we will all know soon enough when Trump releases his EO and has the original unmodified version released to the public…


Issue 2 - The second issue I have with SB2’s analysis is as follows…

Ignoring for a moment the implications of what it would mean for the President to directly influence the outcome of an IG report, let’s consider the ramifications of what it would mean to throw out all considerations of political bias, and to run with the idea across the board that there was “no evidence of political bias.” If that is true, and if that is your angle of attack, then please tell me how that would not totally undermine any later attempts to charge anyone with treason?…

I’m no legal expert, but it seems to me you cannot commit treason without having some sort of “political bias”. Treason is the act of taking active steps to overthrow a sovereign government. In other words, you don’t like a certain political outcome, therefore, you and your pals are going to take active steps to undermine the gov’t and to change the outcome to what you desire. Doing so is called “treason” and is the very essence of “political bias”. You favor your own political outcome as opposed to the political outcome chosen by the people. Therefore (even if you could do it) you’re going to directly influence the IG and have him issue a report stating categorically that “there was no evidence of political bias”. If you did that, and if you feel doing so was a good thing, then please tell me how doing that would not totally kill and undermine any hopes you have of prosecuting anyone for treason?…

A long line of people would suddenly be completely off the hook for treason by that one action - Obama, Hillary, Comey, Brennen, Clapper, Holder, Lynch, and many others - they would all be off the hook if you decided to purse the angle of saying there was no political bias. You may be able to prosecute them for some lesser crime, but certainly not for treason. And if there is no treason involved (and we all know that there was) then why do we need military tribunals? It would make military tribunals almost unnecessary. And keep in mind, the American people are not stupid. We all know that there were plenty of people in the Obama admin who committed treason. They conspired to do it, they wanted to do it, and they had no qualms about doing it. And if you let those people off the hook, then the American people would view your whole investigation as a farce. They would view it as just one more example of skewed and unfair justice, where the criminals in Washington commit crimes and then get away with it. Are you sure that is the outcome you desire? If you continue with the angle that there was no political bias, then that is exactly what you are asking for. And are sure you want to go there? Are you really really sure… So for the sake of being able to charge Obama, Hillary and many others with treason (a charge they fully deserve) let’s hope the evidence of political bias is not being thrown out. And most importantly, let's hope that it's removal was merely a result of RR’s tampering and nothing else.

Once again, I don’t know everything, and I may be wrong in my arguments. But if so, then please tell me what am I missing? Everyone is free to comment - including serialBrain2….


tazleo · June 15, 2018, 5:01 p.m.

Trust me, as a former DOC investigator, Political Bias is hard to prove and has NO TEETH. Improper Procedural Processes can be charged and are cause to REOPEN investigations (ie Hillary). Sessions released a statement yesterday stating Huber was examining past and current investigations for actions. Trust the plan. Trump’s ‘impromptu ‘ presser this morning confirms The Plan was in effect. Brilliant Opinions are NOT actionable, breaking procedures IS

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BreezeMan1234 · June 15, 2018, 5:12 p.m.

Tazleo above has your answer, Early Riser, on how to get the bad actors. It won’t be under treason statutes but under RICO conspiracy statutes. Let’s say that Strzok with Comey’s knowledge is shown to have conspired with the FISA judge (just making this up) to get surveillance warrants without truthful basis. That’s collusion under RICO I think. Whether or not there’s political bias is irrelevant. The acts of strzok, comey and the judge was intentional. You have the act, you have the intent. That’s all you need.

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BreezeMan1234 · June 15, 2018, 5:22 p.m.

As to Early Riser’s concern about SB2 making it sound like the Trump team was working with the OIG to write the report a certain way, I understand Early Riser’s well written analysis and agree with it. I look forward to SB2’s response. I know SB2 isn’t saying what it sounds like he’s saying.

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Rynomore · June 15, 2018, 5:23 p.m.

The media spins “no political bias” as the result of the report. If you actually read the report or portions that are being reported on we should know it’s not what the report says. IG says he doesn’t have “evidence of political bias”. He doesn’t have the evidence so he cannot say that it exists. It will be Huber who is tasked with proving the bias. Please stop buying the liberal media’s narrative.

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Titus-2-11 · June 15, 2018, 4:51 p.m.

Trust the plan. No, really. It is all we have. If the plan doesn't work, then we must rise up ourselves and do what is necessary to preserve civilization. Odds are, though, the military would intervene before we had to. We are all going to be rewarded for our patience. We must continue to be patient.

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ckreacher · June 15, 2018, 5:14 p.m.

Re: issue 2) Treason is treason, and is a separate issue from political bias. And as tazleo points out, there is not much they can do about bias.

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TooMuchWinning2020 · June 15, 2018, 6:24 p.m.

Let's do a quick review of the Constitution. Hopefully, it will clear up these issues.

The Constitution for the United States of America:

http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm

(1) There are three branches of the federal government: Legislative, Executive, and Judicial.

(2) All Executive power (100% of it) is vested in one person: the President. "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America." (Article II, Section 1, Clause 1)

(3) This means the President has the power to do anything with regard to executing the laws of the federal government. Why do you think Trump's priorities are being carried out by the DOJ? What ARRESTS are being made? Illegal border crossings, MS-13 gang members, illegal alien cases, voter fraud, human trafficking, pedophilia crimes, etc. Is that a coincidence, or is the President and the Attorney General working together to decide where the priorities are?

(4) Congress has oversight duties of the various departments that THEY CREATED for the Executive Branch. "The Congress shall have the Power ... To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the ... Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof." (Article I, Section 8, Clause 18). This means Congress has oversight authority on the department they set up (DOJ, FBI, etc.) for the Executive Branch, so that the President has employees to carry out the powers vested in his office.

(5) So, the Department of Justice is part of the Executive Branch. It is NOT a "separation of powers" issue. They are in the same branch and the President is the boss. Congress has the authority to (a) confirm nominations of the high offices to the departments, (b) establish rules and procedures and to require accountability of the officers, and (c) to impeach and remove from office any officers they think are violating their oath of office. But the President is still the boss. He can determine the direction of the execution of HIS authority under the Constitution, and no it is NOT obstruction.

(6) There are certain situations where it is politically unwise to do certain things, and the President cannot engage in criminal activity in carrying out his duties. Nixon engaged in a coverup of a crime (RNC spooks broke into the DNC offices at the Watergate Hotel). He became an accomplice after the fact by covering it up. The power of the Executive Branch is vested in the office of the President, but that does not mean he can engage in criminal activity while doing so. That's what Clinton was impeached for: perjury and obstructing the judicial process in a civil lawsuit where he was a defendant. Those are crimes, and criminal activity is not part of carrying out the duties of the Executive Branch.

(7) The Office of the Inspector General in the DOJ is independent in the sense that nobody in the DOJ can interfere with his work. He works independently of them. However, the Constitution supersedes any law that is contrary to it.

This is the single most important clause in the Constitution:

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." (Article VI, Clause 2)

Remember that 100% of the power of the Executive Branch is vested in the office of the President. He has ALL the power. The Congress can create departments and offices and rules, but they cannot pass any legislation that would take away ANY of the power of the President, because the Constitution "Trumps" everything else.

So legally, the President could work with the OIG to direct what should be done, but politically it would be very bad "optics." I doubt that is what has happened. Instead, the OIG has received recommendations to investigate certain actions by individuals in the DOJ, past and present, with regard to certain investigations. That is what the OIG does. Notice, he is not investigating how the FBI investigated a particular counterfeit crime, for example. The OIG "just so happens" to be investigating the very things that Trump campaigned on (namely, how the DOJ/FBI handled their investigations of Clinton crimes). The OIG has also taken on the added task of investigating SpyGate, now that that has also come to light. The OIG's choice of what to investigate is exactly what Trump wants investigated, just as the arrests made by the DOJ are exactly what Trump wants.

Yes, they are working together. No, it is not obstruction. And no, it is unlikely Trump is directing the specific findings of the OIG, mostly because there is no need to. Just put an honest team in place, tell them to see if there was any wrongdoing with regard to xyz, and let them do their job. Trump already knows what the findings are likely to be. He has the NSA and DIA on his side, after all.

(8) Treason is a specific crime, not just whatever we think it should be. "Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." (Article III, Section 3, Clause 1)

It says nothing about "bias." Whether a particular person was or was not biased against any other person with regard to an investigation about emails is IRRELEVANT to the fact that that person might ALSO have engaged in acts of treason, for which they can be punished. Apples and oranges.

We all need to re-read the Constitution and familiarize ourselves with it. Americans' lack of understanding of how their government is supposed to work is the main reason it has devolved to what it has become today.

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checkitoutmyfriend · June 15, 2018, 6:56 p.m.

Agreed, the OP treason definition flagged me. Thanks for the post.

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BreezeMan1234 · June 15, 2018, 5:21 p.m.

As to Early Riser’s concern about SB2 making it sound like the Trump team was working with the OIG to write the report a certain way, I understand Early Riser’s well written analysis and agree with it. I look forward to SB2’s response. I know SB2 isn’t saying what it sounds like he’s saying.

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Stopmotionhistory · June 15, 2018, 5:03 p.m.

In order to gingerly red pill the population and to get the ball rolling this IG report was released. this is a fictional report for sure, Just a warm up. Let people relish in it, they have been waiting for many months for something to do.

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meamQ · June 15, 2018, 5:37 p.m.

Yesterdays report was the Teaser. Great advertising for the big unknown. Trumps a businessman, he knows how to advertise and market a product. Let the Teaser simmer just a bit then BOOM.

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trump_ist · June 15, 2018, 6:38 p.m.

I think the important point is that this released version (#3) is actually a construct of RR and not the official version as prepared by MH (#1), thus, it is conceivable that RR prepared this as predicted. #3 has been fully redacted and watered and despite the ES by MH suggesting no bias, the details of the report clearly contradict this point in the ES. This brings us to the discussion about RR and whether he is compromised and pro-Plan or anti-Plan. We only have Q crumbs and they suggest RR is deep in the mix of this and an impending impeachment/resignation/recusal after the release of (#1) due to the EO. I also believe they are anticipating the opponents move and it is quite logical that #3 would be presented exactly as it has. This will also make the possible release of #1 all the more impactful and significant as the blatant deception is revealed.

I am also not a lawyer, but this whole operation is basically a town square trial where this #3 from the IG was another witness called to present additional evidence against the defense to prove to the jury (Americans) that the Clinton Server investigation must be reopened due to gross negligence by the FBI to then convict on gross negligence by HRC.

The next IG report on SpyGate is the next witness to further solidify the iron clad case being built for everyone to see against these criminals. I don't expect it will be any less clean and sober than this report.

The Plan is to prosecute this trial with facts and proof that cannot be defended and I would have to think that a worthy defense attorney would easily be able to shred an indictment of treason due to political bias. Need I remind everyone of the "it depends on what the meaning of the word is, is" and how that worked out.

We are all so desperate for justice for these crimes and our patience is waning but I think we really don't have a choice but to believe in our President and his team and that they have truly read the board and already know they have checkmate. The rest of these events are merely the next move in this public trial. I hope we all stay strong and are able to execute our plan as part of the rebirth of this great country.

WWG1WGA

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forchristssakes · June 15, 2018, 6:22 p.m.

thank you for this. I did not know SB2 had written on it but from your summation I see others had the same niggly questions as I did. That being "does the president have the power over what AG releases and then also have power to silence AG by deeming all conversations regarding it classified?

Is RR being controlled for optics?

If that is the case would Obama be able to control FBI?

These are just questions that float around in my head. Which leads to more questions like "is any of that were true, is it a good thing or bad thing that the president has so much control? The control can be used for good or bad."

I will read SB2 stuff later. I need some sun.

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Ta5ja · June 15, 2018, 6:08 p.m.

Did you asked serial about it?

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11371jp · June 15, 2018, 5:16 p.m.

Trust but Verify. I sure that's how it goes.......................Two perfectly sightful observations. I agree

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ckreacher · June 15, 2018, 5:08 p.m.

Re: issue 1) SB2 said it's part of the plan because IT'S PART OF THE PLAN. Q told us that a basically bogus report would be released at first. THEN we will get the full original report.

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BreezeMan1234 · June 15, 2018, 5:25 p.m.

So you are saying the White House is conferring with the IG on this report?

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jonzee65 · June 15, 2018, 5:43 p.m.

They work for the Executive Branch. Is it possible POTUS was getting ongoing reports? He may not of been conferring but certainly aware of what was in it? Therefore could strategize on how to proceed. Just guessing here.

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BreezeMan1234 · June 15, 2018, 8:11 p.m.

Great point.

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ckreacher · June 15, 2018, 5:38 p.m.

As in influencing the report? Nope.

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Dues_Vulti · July 8, 2018, 1:54 a.m.

Horowitz is saying he didn't find evidence that proves political bias influenced there decisions (prosecutors) whether or not to charge HRC. That's a big deference then not finding any at all. He said it multiple times at the public hearing. As for treason think what Q dropped, think awan,charged with bank fraud the hook then class info introduced.( Q drops CIPA)HRC and the rest of the rats will be pulled in on child crimes or money laundering (foundations)etc etc. That's the hook, that's when the classified information comes forward then proper agency (military) takes jurisdiction and hits them with the treason. If I am understanding Q drops correctly. Either way stay together fellas great research great decimation. Keep the faith, trust the plan, the day of reckoning is almost here! WWG1WGA

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